SendMail (SMTP_AUTH) POP (POP_AUTH)
Hi, I'm having bad times configuring SMTP relay under 8.9.3, I need to relay e-mail to roaming users and it's being hard to enable relay to these users while keeping the system closed to spammers. I wonder if anybody have generated RPM's for Sendmail 8.10 with SMTP_AUTH support, or Qpop with POP_AUTH (POP before SMTP) support. Also, we suspect that a user is sending unauthorized msgs outside the company. Is there a way to send a copy of all the outgoing msgs from a user to the administrator's account (transparently)? I'm using SuSE Linux 6.4. Any help will be appreciated. []s, Bráulio Gergull
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Bráulio Gergull wrote: Hi BrŽaulio,
I'm having bad times configuring SMTP relay under 8.9.3, I need to relay e-mail to roaming users and it's being hard to enable relay to these users while keeping the system closed to spammers.
forget sendmail it's a very old (timearea of Flintstones) MTA. Its better you change to qmail. At http://www.qmail.org you will find addons for stopping spamming and relaying. Regards, Ruprecht
Helms wrote:
forget sendmail it's a very old (timearea of Flintstones) MTA. Its better you change to qmail. At http://www.qmail.org you will find addons for stopping spamming and relaying.
First a comment to helms (Ruprecht): Does one realy has to be religous on thing one use? Well, to your problem: I'd recomend to get the latest version of sendmail. With that you get even 'smtp auth' for your roaming users. The spam and relaying filters are just good and with the help you find on www.sendmail.org you secure the system within litle time. Best regards, Dietmar Lembke
Hi Dietmar,
I'd recomend to get the latest version of sendmail. With that you get even 'smtp auth' for your roaming users. The spam and relaying filters are just good and with the help you find on www.sendmail.org you secure the system within litle time.
Yeah, I've already get Sendmail 8.10.2 wich include support for SMTP_AUTH, but it requires third part patches. I tried to build a RPM package applying these patches while keeping the original patches that apply to SuSE 6.4 sendmail.spm, but wasn't successful. It seems that I'll take me more time to adjust the patches and the sendmail.spec file and put it to work (building the RPM package) than I have. Yeah, I know that I can just "tar zxvf sendmail.version.tar.gz" and then "./build [option]", however I like to keep everything in the rpm database. Moreover I take care of various servers and RPM helps me keeping everything in order on all machines with much less effort. Thanks, Bráulio Weimann Gergull
Hi Ruprecht,
forget sendmail it's a very old (timearea of Flintstones) MTA. Its better you change to qmail. At http://www.qmail.org you will find addons for stopping spamming and relaying.
I'd preffer to find a solution for sendmail, in fact Sendmail 8.10 comes with support for such feature, however it still depends on third part software. This means more docs to read _carefully_ and more testings to be done before putting it in a production environment, what translates in more time to implement, and I'm beeing pressed to do it in a hurry. Even though I'll take a look at qmail documentation to see if it can help me in a timely manner. Thanks for your help. []s, Bráulio Weiamnn Gergull
Hello Braulio, try this in /etc/aliases user: spy, \user and don't forget to run newaliases after editing. I haven't done it myself but this is what SuSE suggests in the comments at the beginning of /etc/aliases : quote---------- # The program "newaliases" must be run after changing this file. # It is probably best to not work as user root and redirect all # email to "root" to another account. Then you don't have to check # for important email too often on the root account. # The "\root" will make sure that email is also delivered to the # root-account, but also forwared to the user "joe". #root: joe, \root quote end------ Cheers, Erwin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Erwin Rennert, Center for Social Innovation Austria, Europe erwin@zsi.at On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Br�ulio Gergull wrote:
Hi,
I'm having bad times configuring SMTP relay under 8.9.3, I need to relay e-mail to roaming users and it's being hard to enable relay to these users while keeping the system closed to spammers.
I wonder if anybody have generated RPM's for Sendmail 8.10 with SMTP_AUTH support, or Qpop with POP_AUTH (POP before SMTP) support.
Also, we suspect that a user is sending unauthorized msgs outside the company. Is there a way to send a copy of all the outgoing msgs from a user to the administrator's account (transparently)?
I'm using SuSE Linux 6.4.
Any help will be appreciated.
[]s, Br�ulio Gergull
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Actualy /etc/aliases is for incoming mail only. The only method I know for sending a copy of the e-mail to another user is: cc or bcc and that can be done only in the mail client (i.e. the user who sends it ) --- Bogdan Zapca System Administrator SC EcoSoft SA Internet Service Provider 1-7 Deva st, Cluj-Napoca, Romania Tel: +40 64 199696 http://www.ecosoft.ro On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Erwin Rennert wrote:
Hello Braulio,
try this in /etc/aliases
user: spy, \user
and don't forget to run newaliases after editing. I haven't done it myself but this is what SuSE suggests in the comments at the beginning of /etc/aliases :
quote---------- # The program "newaliases" must be run after changing this file.
# It is probably best to not work as user root and redirect all # email to "root" to another account. Then you don't have to check # for important email too often on the root account. # The "\root" will make sure that email is also delivered to the # root-account, but also forwared to the user "joe". #root: joe, \root quote end------
Cheers, Erwin
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Erwin Rennert, Center for Social Innovation Austria, Europe erwin@zsi.at
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Br�ulio Gergull wrote:
Hi,
I'm having bad times configuring SMTP relay under 8.9.3, I need to relay e-mail to roaming users and it's being hard to enable relay to these users while keeping the system closed to spammers.
I wonder if anybody have generated RPM's for Sendmail 8.10 with SMTP_AUTH support, or Qpop with POP_AUTH (POP before SMTP) support.
Also, we suspect that a user is sending unauthorized msgs outside the company. Is there a way to send a copy of all the outgoing msgs from a user to the administrator's account (transparently)?
I'm using SuSE Linux 6.4.
Any help will be appreciated.
[]s, Br�ulio Gergull
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On Fri, Jul 14, 2000 at 04:14:49PM +0300, lupe@admin2.ecosoft.ro wrote:
Actualy /etc/aliases is for incoming mail only. The only method I know for sending a copy of the e-mail to another user is: cc or bcc and that can be done only in the mail client (i.e. the user who sends it )
Also, we suspect that a user is sending unauthorized msgs outside the company. Is there a way to send a copy of all the outgoing msgs from a user to the administrator's account (transparently)?
You could try configuring sendmail so it queues messages before uploading them, then capture that spool-dir and 'grep' on it every to often before sending them on. Since I'm a happy qmail user, I cannot tell you exactly how to configure sendmail to queue outgoing messages, but that is a very common setup, so dejanews should have tons of messages describing it. Good luck, jurriaan -- When authorities warn you of the sinfulness of sex, there is an important lesson to be learned. Do not have sex with the authorities. Matt Groening - Basic Sex Facts For Today's Youngfolk GNU/Linux 2.2.17pre9 SMP 1 user load av: 0.69 0.18 0.06
Yep, you are right, of course. Sorry for the confusion; it was early in the morning and apparently my brains got stuck somewhere in the boot process ;-) Erwin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Erwin Rennert, Center for Social Innovation Austria, Europe erwin@zsi.at On Fri, 14 Jul 2000 lupe@admin2.ecosoft.ro wrote:
Actualy /etc/aliases is for incoming mail only. The only method I know for sending a copy of the e-mail to another user is: cc or bcc and that can be done only in the mail client (i.e. the user who sends it )
--- Bogdan Zapca System Administrator SC EcoSoft SA Internet Service Provider 1-7 Deva st, Cluj-Napoca, Romania Tel: +40 64 199696 http://www.ecosoft.ro
On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Erwin Rennert wrote:
Hello Braulio,
try this in /etc/aliases
user: spy, \user
and don't forget to run newaliases after editing. I haven't done it myself but this is what SuSE suggests in the comments at the beginning of /etc/aliases :
quote---------- # The program "newaliases" must be run after changing this file.
# It is probably best to not work as user root and redirect all # email to "root" to another account. Then you don't have to check # for important email too often on the root account. # The "\root" will make sure that email is also delivered to the # root-account, but also forwared to the user "joe". #root: joe, \root quote end------
Cheers, Erwin
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Erwin Rennert, Center for Social Innovation Austria, Europe erwin@zsi.at
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Br�ulio Gergull wrote:
Hi,
I'm having bad times configuring SMTP relay under 8.9.3, I need to relay e-mail to roaming users and it's being hard to enable relay to these users while keeping the system closed to spammers.
I wonder if anybody have generated RPM's for Sendmail 8.10 with SMTP_AUTH support, or Qpop with POP_AUTH (POP before SMTP) support.
Also, we suspect that a user is sending unauthorized msgs outside the company. Is there a way to send a copy of all the outgoing msgs from a user to the administrator's account (transparently)?
I'm using SuSE Linux 6.4.
Any help will be appreciated.
[]s, Br�ulio Gergull
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