[opensuse-project] ANNOUNCE: I call it a beta
Hi, We had a short go/no-go meeting on #opensuse-factory and decided that the fuser problem may be the cause of all evil and now that it's gone, we can go forward and release beta1. We even managed to get most of the artwork updated in the days slippage. If you come around it, I will upload build315 to the mirrors tomorrow morning. When to announce publically I leave to the marketing guys, I'll be mainly off the internet till tuesday as monday is public holiday for me and I'm told publishing news on friday is bad - but I'll make sure the ISOs are available for interested testers. I hope that's ok for the team. Now the interesting question is what about the RC1. We didn't really loose time in development as we checked in almost everything that came in during the time we waited for the fixes - this includes e.g. kernel 3.1rc7. But we can't hold the schedule as it is - the original deadline for RC1 checkins is october 7th - that's around 4 days after public announcment of the beta and even before the pizza party. With the new factory work flow we have some more flexibility in terms of checkin deadlines, so let's make use of that. My proposal would be: Move RC1 from October 13th to 21st for release date - checkin deadline would be 18th. Move RC2 from October 27th to November 3th - checkin deadline would be October 28th (November 1st and the monday in front are blackout in Nuremberg and we rely too much on Nuremberg to move the date where it's perfect ;( ) Move Final release from November 11th (who set that date anyway? :) to November 16th. GM would be on 11th. Note, that I don't want to move the final date too much and if we all agree to some discipline, RC2 will already be perfect and we only apply some polishing up to GM. I know that shuffles our usual weekdays for release a bit and I'm pretty sure I made some mistakes in my proposal, so please feel free to give ideas of yours. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
Le 29/09/2011 22:22, Stephan Kulow a écrit :
some discipline, RC2 will already be perfect and we only apply some polishing up to GM.
yes, RC2 is usually very same as GM, and given the high level of quality of present factory (congratulation!), RC2 should be enough to build demos in advance. In fact, if we can have all artwork in place for RC1, we could begin making photo and video tutorials thanks jdd (present factory is already pretty good, at least on my two installs :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
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Move RC2 from October 27th to November 3th - checkin deadline would be October 28th (November 1st and the monday in front are blackout in Nuremberg and we rely too much on Nuremberg to move the date where it's perfect ;( )
Move Final release from November 11th (who set that date anyway? :) to November 16th. GM would be on 11th.
Note, that I don't want to move the final date too much and if we all agree to some discipline, RC2 will already be perfect and we only apply some polishing up to GM. I know that shuffles our usual weekdays for release a bit and I'm pretty sure I made some mistakes in my proposal, so please feel free to give ideas of yours.
Greetings, Stephan
Stephan my only regret would have been about the date 12.11.11 feet nicely for 12.1 release isn't it :-) Anyway an "almost free bug" release is a better release. Keep the good work. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
Am 29.09.2011 22:22, schrieb Stephan Kulow:
When to announce publically I leave to the marketing guys, I'll be mainly off the internet till tuesday as monday is public holiday for me and I'm told publishing news on friday is bad - but I'll make sure the ISOs are available for interested testers. I hope that's ok for the team.
I cc´ed the news-team for that. We might can use the weekend for writing up something. I try to create an article about it in German to pass it to pro-linux.de (they were a bit out of time with the last development releases and I really get sad about it in the past) hope this helps, -- Kim Leyendecker openSUSE -- send from my notebook -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 22:22 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Now the interesting question is what about the RC1. We didn't really loose time in development as we checked in almost everything that came in during the time we waited for the fixes - this includes e.g. kernel 3.1rc7. But we can't hold the schedule as it is - the original deadline for RC1 checkins is october 7th - that's around 4 days after public announcment of the beta and even before the pizza party.
With the new factory work flow we have some more flexibility in terms of checkin deadlines, so let's make use of that. My proposal would be:
Move RC1 from October 13th to 21st for release date - checkin deadline would be 18th.
Move RC2 from October 27th to November 3th - checkin deadline would be October 28th (November 1st and the monday in front are blackout in Nuremberg and we rely too much on Nuremberg to move the date where it's perfect ;( )
Move Final release from November 11th (who set that date anyway? :) to November 16th. GM would be on 11th.
Note, that I don't want to move the final date too much and if we all agree to some discipline, RC2 will already be perfect and we only apply some polishing up to GM. I know that shuffles our usual weekdays for release a bit and I'm pretty sure I made some mistakes in my proposal, so please feel free to give ideas of yours.
Coolo, We have posed your question on the marketing list and there seems to be general consensus that we agree the 11th is not an ideal date for releasing the final version of 12.1. We also would like to recommend that 12.1 be released on Wednesday, November 15th as a more ideal date of release for two reasons: 1) We feel that Wednesday is a better day than Thursday to give ample time for the media to generate positive noise about 12.1 thus more awareness to people who may wish to download and try openSUSE on the first weekend following the release. 2) LinuxCon Brazil begins on Thursday, November 16 and we would like to be able to have the release ready prior to the start of the conference and give the local supporters of openSUSE a day to generate excitement about the release before they focus more fully on the conference itself. We, the marketing team, recognize that the decision of release date is not the marketing team's to make, but rather the Release Team's decision. This is merely a recommendation and should not supersede any additional issues the Release Team must take into consideration. Thanks, Bryen M Yunashko openSUSE Marketing Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
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