On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 11:45 AM, jdd wrote:

Le 12/12/2015 19:26, Richard Brown a écrit :

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I guess the easiest way of tackling this is by addressing the 'Myths' directly

you kow, the "solution" used by many people I know is to never update (most of them don't only because they don't know even what it is :-()

of course, I wont do this on a server (but I may upgrade at Evergreen eol), cheap computers are not online servers.

by the way, 32 bits hardware is dying slowly, and probably keeping Evergreen two years more would be more than enough

small very cheap "computer" are almost unusable. Better use a PI :-)), I don't understand why there is still some new 32 bits...

jdd

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W dniu 12.12.2015 o 22:00, Malcolm pisze:

I gave away all my 32bit stuff although I still have a VIA Artigo I may keep, just like my sparc systems...

And in effect the problem didn't go away, it only changed hands. Now somebody else will want to have a 32bit OS to put on that. All in all, unless something meaningful happens in the tech world, I think we will see working 32bit hardware at least until 2020. Effectively until it totally breaks down. Some of these machines aren't easy to replace, e.g. the netbooks use a 32bit intel atom cpu. Since then there isn't any machine type that if fit to replace them (ultrabooks are larger, netbooks were 10" or 8"). That's a nifty, handy machine to carry around, which needs a 32bit system. And that's only 1 of the examples. The easy replaceable machines are normal desktops and laptops, and there probably aren't many of those around that have 32bit cpus. But it's the machines with uncommon form factors, that people want to keep running despite aging hardware, cause there isn't anything suitable to replace them (no, android tablets are not a replacement, unless they'll allow to install a totally custom OS). -- Łukasz "Cyber Killer" Korpalski mail: cyberkiller8@gmail.com xmpp: cyber_killer@jabster.pl site: http://website.cybkil.cu.cc gpgkey: 0x72511999 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net //When replying to my e-mail, kindly please //write your message below the quoted text.