On Sat, 2014-10-11 at 19:53 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 09/10/14 13:51, Roger Luedecke wrote:

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The following two actively troll in main lists, and engage in homophobic rants on Off-Topic.

Banga Gong Basil Chupin

*NOTE*: Please note that I am posting this message (as a FWD) also in the Offtopic list.

Roger, if your post was not of such a serious nature I would treat you as a joke, which you so richly deserve, but seeing how you maliciously posted your message in this mail list which is archived and accessible to whoever in the world wants to do a search and reads your slanderous accusation I have to respond here.

Where did you get the word "homophobic" from - the back of a candy wrapper? Do you really know what the word means? Have you looked up its meaning in a dictionary?

I sincerely hope that you can provide The Board - which Gupta is suggesting - with ample evidence where I "engage in homophobic rants on Off-Topic" in that list or other openSUSE lists, or in any other fora, or have ever done so at any time in the past.

In keeping with the fact that your post, Roger, was made in a public list, which is archived and made available to all search engines, I make this additional comment and ask a question directed at you:

I don't recall ever seeing any post from you in Offtopic until the question you asked me a few days ago (to which I replied with a simple, straightforward, sentence). So, you have been, what they call, "lurking" in Offtopic over whatever time period - but for what purpose?

But this is the real question I want to ask you:

What are you doing in Offtopic if you don't post there, and do you know what Offtopic is all about? You obviously do not know.

I already gave an indication about its nature above, but to make sure that you actually fully understand its nature, as its name implies it is "OFFTOPIC", ie anything which is frowned upon in other openSUSE mail lists is allowed to be posted and be discussed in Offtopic.

It is therefore for this reason that this Offtopic list is NOT archived by openSUSE itself nor by any organisation (which normally is allowed to archive internet mail).

The bottom line of what I just wrote is that if you don't like what is written and discussed in Offtopic or are unable to comprehend who said what to whom then UNSUBSCRIBE from that list!

BC

-- "A friend is someone who stabs you in the front." Oscar Wilde

Banga.gong is the one more engaged in homophobic talk. You are a more contemporary troll, simply making useless responses in the technical. lists. Offtopic is a place for things that are not on topic such as conversations. In practice it is often a place for science denialism and politics, which though I don't like is well within the scope of the list. However, the advocacy that a minority group of people should be denied civil rights and liberties is not an appropriate use of the lists. It should be noted that I am not the only one who has noticed these goings on and objected to them. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 12/10/14 04:38, Roger Luedecke wrote:

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On Sat, 2014-10-11 at 19:53 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

...

On 09/10/14 13:51, Roger Luedecke wrote:

...

The following two actively troll in main lists, and engage in homophobic rants on Off-Topic.

Banga Gong Basil Chupin

*NOTE*: Please note that I am posting this message (as a FWD) also in the Offtopic list.

Roger, if your post was not of such a serious nature I would treat you as a joke, which you so richly deserve, but seeing how you maliciously posted your message in this mail list which is archived and accessible to whoever in the world wants to do a search and reads your slanderous accusation I have to respond here.

Where did you get the word "homophobic" from - the back of a candy wrapper? Do you really know what the word means? Have you looked up its meaning in a dictionary?

I sincerely hope that you can provide The Board - which Gupta is suggesting - with ample evidence where I "engage in homophobic rants on Off-Topic" in that list or other openSUSE lists, or in any other fora, or have ever done so at any time in the past.

In keeping with the fact that your post, Roger, was made in a public list, which is archived and made available to all search engines, I make this additional comment and ask a question directed at you:

I don't recall ever seeing any post from you in Offtopic until the question you asked me a few days ago (to which I replied with a simple, straightforward, sentence). So, you have been, what they call, "lurking" in Offtopic over whatever time period - but for what purpose?

But this is the real question I want to ask you:

What are you doing in Offtopic if you don't post there, and do you know what Offtopic is all about? You obviously do not know.

I already gave an indication about its nature above, but to make sure that you actually fully understand its nature, as its name implies it is "OFFTOPIC", ie anything which is frowned upon in other openSUSE mail lists is allowed to be posted and be discussed in Offtopic.

It is therefore for this reason that this Offtopic list is NOT archived by openSUSE itself nor by any organisation (which normally is allowed to archive internet mail).

The bottom line of what I just wrote is that if you don't like what is written and discussed in Offtopic or are unable to comprehend who said what to whom then UNSUBSCRIBE from that list!

BC

-- "A friend is someone who stabs you in the front." Oscar Wilde

Banga.gong is the one more engaged in homophobic talk. You are a more contemporary troll, simply making useless responses in the technical. lists.

Offtopic is a place for things that are not on topic such as conversations. In practice it is often a place for science denialism and politics, which though I don't like is well within the scope of the list. However, the advocacy that a minority group of people should be denied civil rights and liberties is not an appropriate use of the lists.

It should be noted that I am not the only one who has noticed these goings on and objected to them.

So I can take this as a wimpish attempt by you as a public apology to me of your slanderous claim that I "engage in homophobic rants" as well as admitting that you were unable to put to The Board evidence of such rantings by me? Yes or no?

Now let's look at what else you stated.

QUOTE

You are a more contemporary troll, simply making useless responses in the technical. lists. [sic]

UNQUOTE

I like that, "contemporary troll". Another term from the back of a candy-wrapper? What is a "contemporary troll"?

If you have been paying attention at any time, I have always given technical advice when responding to technical questions. *BUT*, I am no angel! I HAVE made comments which are of the "non technical" nature - and I am not the only one.

A 'minor' infringement of the purpose of the technical mail lists, but does it require a public complaint which also includes a slanderous statement that I have engaged in "homophobic rants"?

But you have singled me out in your "Mailing list trolls" post. Why?

I really would like a direct answer to my question as to why your have singled me out.

Now let's look at the what else you stated above.

QUOTE

Offtopic is a place for things that are not on topic such as conversations. In practice it is often a place for science denialism and politics, which though I don't like is well within the scope of the list.

UNQUOTE

"Offtopic is a place for things that are not on topic such as conversations."

I think that you are having trouble with trying to explain to yourself - as well as to me, and others for that matter - what "on topic" and "off topic" really mean, aren't you?

"Such as conversations". What exactly does this mean? Every post even to a technical question is a "conversation". Right now I am having a "conversation" with you - and the rest of the people having access to this list.

But never mind, let's press on.

"In practice it is often a place for science denialism and politics, which though I don't like is well within the scope of the list."

Ah, so *YOU* don't like what is being stated/discussed/commented on, right? *YOU* don't like it and so you complain in opensuse-project.

(But as I already stated, all you need to do is to UNSCRIBE to offtopic if you what is posted there go against your personal beliefs.)

You also complained to The Board following Gupta's suggestion because your post above has a CC: to .

In your complaint in this mail list - opensuse-project- you didn't complain about global warming or the number of poor in America or inequality of between the poor and the rich or the use of military power to destroy nations and people which are subjects mentioned and commented on in opensuse-offtopic.

But you did specifically complain in your post about "*homophobic* *rants*".

Why is that? Do you have some special interest in comments aimed at homophobia?

(I trust that by now you have looked up in a dictionary what "homophobic" means?)

In offtopic I am regularly called by at least a couple of posters there a Marxist, a socialist, a liberal, and whatever else in that vein, but being none of those I simply shrug off those comments as comments made by either ignorant people or people who I know are just trying to "stir" me.

In your case, however, the subject of homophobia appears to have really stirred you up. Why is that?

Anyway, as before, I am advising that I am sending a copy of this message also to opensuse-offtopic - seeing as how a FWDed copy of my last message here did not make it to offtopic.

BC

-- "A friend is someone who stabs you in the front." Oscar Wilde

-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

Please don't paste the forum conversations here. They are already on the forums and this is just getting out of control. Please contact the board on this instead of the project email. I sympathize with the sentiment of disagreement so let's take this to the proper channel to work on it. Thank you -- Andy (anditosan) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

* Basil Chupin [10-17-14 12:01]:

On 12/10/14 04:38, Roger Luedecke wrote:

...

On Sat, 2014-10-11 at 19:53 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

...

On 09/10/14 13:51, Roger Luedecke wrote:

...

The following two actively troll in main lists, and engage in homophobic rants on Off-Topic.

Banga Gong Basil Chupin

*NOTE*: Please note that I am posting this message (as a FWD) also in the Offtopic list.

Roger, if your post was not of such a serious nature I would treat you as a joke, which you so richly deserve, but seeing how you maliciously posted your message in this mail list which is archived and accessible to whoever in the world wants to do a search and reads your slanderous accusation I have to respond here.

Where did you get the word "homophobic" from - the back of a candy wrapper? Do you really know what the word means? Have you looked up its meaning in a dictionary?

I sincerely hope that you can provide The Board - which Gupta is suggesting - with ample evidence where I "engage in homophobic rants on Off-Topic" in that list or other openSUSE lists, or in any other fora, or have ever done so at any time in the past.

In keeping with the fact that your post, Roger, was made in a public list, which is archived and made available to all search engines, I make this additional comment and ask a question directed at you:

I don't recall ever seeing any post from you in Offtopic until the question you asked me a few days ago (to which I replied with a simple, straightforward, sentence). So, you have been, what they call, "lurking" in Offtopic over whatever time period - but for what purpose?

But this is the real question I want to ask you:

What are you doing in Offtopic if you don't post there, and do you know what Offtopic is all about? You obviously do not know.

I already gave an indication about its nature above, but to make sure that you actually fully understand its nature, as its name implies it is "OFFTOPIC", ie anything which is frowned upon in other openSUSE mail lists is allowed to be posted and be discussed in Offtopic.

It is therefore for this reason that this Offtopic list is NOT archived by openSUSE itself nor by any organisation (which normally is allowed to archive internet mail).

The bottom line of what I just wrote is that if you don't like what is written and discussed in Offtopic or are unable to comprehend who said what to whom then UNSUBSCRIBE from that list!

BC

-- "A friend is someone who stabs you in the front." Oscar Wilde

Banga.gong is the one more engaged in homophobic talk. You are a more contemporary troll, simply making useless responses in the technical. lists.

Offtopic is a place for things that are not on topic such as conversations. In practice it is often a place for science denialism and politics, which though I don't like is well within the scope of the list. However, the advocacy that a minority group of people should be denied civil rights and liberties is not an appropriate use of the lists.

It should be noted that I am not the only one who has noticed these goings on and objected to them.

So I can take this as a wimpish attempt by you as a public apology to me of your slanderous claim that I "engage in homophobic rants" as well as admitting that you were unable to put to The Board evidence of such rantings by me? Yes or no?

Now let's look at what else you stated.

QUOTE

You are a more contemporary troll, simply making useless responses in the technical. lists. [sic]

UNQUOTE

I like that, "contemporary troll". Another term from the back of a candy-wrapper? What is a "contemporary troll"?

If you have been paying attention at any time, I have always given technical advice when responding to technical questions. *BUT*, I am no angel! I HAVE made comments which are of the "non technical" nature - and I am not the only one.

A 'minor' infringement of the purpose of the technical mail lists, but does it require a public complaint which also includes a slanderous statement that I have engaged in "homophobic rants"?

But you have singled me out in your "Mailing list trolls" post. Why?

I really would like a direct answer to my question as to why your have singled me out.

Now let's look at the what else you stated above.

QUOTE

Offtopic is a place for things that are not on topic such as conversations. In practice it is often a place for science denialism and politics, which though I don't like is well within the scope of the list.

UNQUOTE

"Offtopic is a place for things that are not on topic such as conversations."

I think that you are having trouble with trying to explain to yourself - as well as to me, and others for that matter - what "on topic" and "off topic" really mean, aren't you?

"Such as conversations". What exactly does this mean? Every post even to a technical question is a "conversation". Right now I am having a "conversation" with you - and the rest of the people having access to this list.

But never mind, let's press on.

"In practice it is often a place for science denialism and politics, which though I don't like is well within the scope of the list."

Ah, so *YOU* don't like what is being stated/discussed/commented on, right? *YOU* don't like it and so you complain in opensuse-project.

(But as I already stated, all you need to do is to UNSCRIBE to offtopic if you what is posted there go against your personal beliefs.)

You also complained to The Board following Gupta's suggestion because your post above has a CC: to .

In your complaint in this mail list - opensuse-project- you didn't complain about global warming or the number of poor in America or inequality of between the poor and the rich or the use of military power to destroy nations and people which are subjects mentioned and commented on in opensuse-offtopic.

But you did specifically complain in your post about "*homophobic* *rants*".

Why is that? Do you have some special interest in comments aimed at homophobia?

(I trust that by now you have looked up in a dictionary what "homophobic" means?)

In offtopic I am regularly called by at least a couple of posters there a Marxist, a socialist, a liberal, and whatever else in that vein, but being none of those I simply shrug off those comments as comments made by either ignorant people or people who I know are just trying to "stir" me.

In your case, however, the subject of homophobia appears to have really stirred you up. Why is that?

Anyway, as before, I am advising that I am sending a copy of this message also to opensuse-offtopic - seeing as how a FWDed copy of my last message here did not make it to offtopic.

BC

Have we gotten somewhat paranoid, Basil. You have posted a "rambling" *rant* in an improper forum, fully quoted. All merely to take up space and peoples time. and to *what* point. Is your *pride* injured? It would be judicious to drop it or "stow it". -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org