On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 16:01 +0100, Andrew Wafaa wrote:

My understanding is that there is always a mix of one and two year terms, for both employees and non-employees (Chairman not withstanding) to ensure some form of conrinuity in the board. If my rusty brain is correct, which it may not be, there are a total of 3 seats up for election, 1@SUSE (Henne) and 2@External (Manu & myself), Will and Pascal were elected for two years.

Regards,

Andy

That's not a correct interpretation. The terms were set for two years. With half the board (2 or 3 depending on which year) up for election each year. So accordingly, you were elected for a two year term. The way it is is: Henne - Elected in beginning of 2011 to end this coming election (2 years) Peter Linnell - Elected in beginning of 2011 to end this coming election (2 years) with Manu stepping in as second highest vote-getter in the last election to fulfill the end of Peter's term after he resigned recently. Andy Wafaa (that's you!) - Elected in beginning of 2012 to end in next election after this one (2 years) Pascal and Will both in the same situation as Andy. So, by that traditional definition, that means technically we have 2 seats open for election, not three. And every year there will be an election for two-year terms. The first election in 2009, which I was in, we did have two one-year terms. That was specifically to create the staggered cycle described above, because there had been no elections prior to that first election. Both myself and Federico Mena Quintero won the one-year cycle, with Stephen Shaw filling in for Federico after he stepped down. Subsequently, I ran again and had a two-year term. That was the end of the "special case" one-year term. There has been no one-year terms since that first election. Bryen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 17:34 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

On 10/02/2012 05:14 PM, Bryen M Yunashko wrote:

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On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 16:01 +0100, Andrew Wafaa wrote:

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My understanding is that there is always a mix of one and two year terms, for both employees and non-employees (Chairman not withstanding) to ensure some form of conrinuity in the board. If my rusty brain is correct, which it may not be, there are a total of 3 seats up for election, 1@SUSE (Henne) and 2@External (Manu & myself), Will and Pascal were elected for two years.

Regards,

Andy

That's not a correct interpretation. The terms were set for two years.

In general, read the rules ;)

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With half the board (2 or 3 depending on which year) up for election each year.

So accordingly, you were elected for a two year term.

The way it is is:

Henne - Elected in beginning of 2011 to end this coming election (2 years) Peter Linnell - Elected in beginning of 2011 to end this coming election (2 years) with Manu stepping in as second highest vote-getter in the last election to fulfill the end of Peter's term after he resigned recently.

Not right - Manu was appointed at new board member. For appointment the rules is "Appointed board members are required to stand down and might seek election at the next election. "

Ok, but regardless of that very specific line, one way or another, Manu's seat is up for grabs. Whether he was filling the last few months of a 2 year term (as is the case now) or is forced to stand down (as is stated in the rules), his seat still is up for election this year. Therefore, based on your other email in this thread, there is still no one-year term in the upcoming election according to the rules. There *will* be two seats up for grabs: Henne's and Manu's. So the one-year-term election rule doesn't kick in, imho. And therefore, Andy does not have to seek re-election this year. His seat is safe until the 2013-14 election cycle. Andy was elected on a two-year term, not one-year (which is the main point I was responding to him about.) Bryen

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Andy Wafaa (that's you!) - Elected in beginning of 2012 to end in next election after this one (2 years) Pascal and Will both in the same situation as Andy.

So, by that traditional definition, that means technically we have 2 seats open for election, not three. And every year there will be an election for two-year terms.

Unless due to appointments this would lead to a situation where in the next year only 1 or zero seats would be up for election.

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The first election in 2009, which I was in, we did have two one-year terms. That was specifically to create the staggered cycle described above, because there had been no elections prior to that first election.

Both myself and Federico Mena Quintero won the one-year cycle, with Stephen Shaw filling in for Federico after he stepped down. Subsequently, I ran again and had a two-year term. That was the end of the "special case" one-year term. There has been no one-year terms since that first election.

And two years ago we refined the election rules and introduced a couple of new concepts,

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Le mardi 02 octobre 2012, à 10:14 -0500, Bryen M Yunashko a écrit :

Peter Linnell - Elected in beginning of 2011 to end this coming election (2 years) with Manu stepping in as second highest vote-getter in the last election to fulfill the end of Peter's term after he resigned recently.

It doesn't change the result since Peter's term was coming to an end, but per http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election_rules#Appointed_members: Manu would have had to stand down at the end of this year in all cases (even if Peter had been elected last year, until end of 2013). Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

Le mardi 02 octobre 2012, à 09:54 -0500, Bryen M Yunashko a écrit :

Point of clarification?

On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 15:50 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

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Hi all,

It's that time of the year again: we'll be having elections for the openSUSE Board in a few weeks!

For this to happen, we need people to step up and join the Election Committee. At least three openSUSE members need to be in that committee.

The Election Committee has the following responsabilities:

+ Defining how many vacant seats are "one year term" seats and how many vacant seats are "two year term" seats

Have board terms been redefined? We had a one-year term created for the first election because we wanted a staggered cycle where not everyone was elected the same year. After that, all new terms were elected as two year terms.

Are terms now redefined as having both one and two year terms available?

Quoting http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election_rules#Continuity: """ It is desired to "roll over" about half of the seats with each regular election. Before the election, the election committee defines how many vacant seats are "one year term" seats and how many vacant seats are "two year term" seats. One year term seats will only be defined if there would be fewer than two seats to be filled at the following annual election. In this case the number of one year seats is calculated so that two seats will have to be filled at the following annual election. """ Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org