Sorry, my Mail was just sent to jdd, damn k9 Mail again.... Kim Leyendecker schrieb:

jdd wrote:

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Le 30/12/2011 23:52, Greg Freemyer a écrit :

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On the technical side, vetos definitely exist, and they exist now.

The Release Manager (Coolo) ultimately decides what goes into openSUSE. ie. The Release Manager has veto power.

I challenge this. yet Coolo have some power on paid suse people.

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eg. If I decided I wanted to submit a patch to change grub to grub2, it has to be accepted. And in the current setup that basically

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Coolo has to accept it. (or veto it).

if you where the only maintainer of grub and decided to stop it, I don't see what coolo could do.

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I have no issue with that reality. Coolo does a great job from what

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can tell. But to claim he doesn't have that power is to be blind to reality.

your overestimate his power. I'm pretty sure one of his higher quality

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is diplomacy :-). I'm very admirative about him :-! Of course His advice have weight.

Yes, he's a great diplomate, but a sc is also important when there occurs a "fight" between progressives and clnservatives. These discussions are often very offending and sometimes more subjective then anything other. Here a sc has to intervene and negioate as a fair Balance between both parties

I guess that's the reason why per (and also i) wants to have such a sc.

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I see this a maturing of the community. For now I am very happy with the way things work, but what if one of the other sponsors wanted to have more say so at the steering committee level. How would that be addressed?

hiring developpers. Even users can do that if they are enough

The release manager have power when he have a real choice, yes, and it's important. But real choice is not that often in the opensource world

jdd

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