On Tuesday 20 Nov 2012 08:44:26 Michael Catanzaro wrote:

On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 18:41 -0700, Andres Silva wrote:

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Right now, there are some ideas coming through. As designers, it is important to find ideas, words, or concepts that can help guide our thoughts into choosing artwork for 12.3. Please provide us with a max of 3 design "thoughts," for example

Consistency!

I'm a big fan of the 12.2 art, so I think a similarish theme would be nice. Count me a fan of the floaty fuzzy balls.

I was rather disapointed to see another "safe" desktop background chosen for 12.2 It's not that I mind all the green, it's just that our last few default wallpapers have all basically been the same, a single colour (our beloved green with a slight detour to blue on one occasion) with a few design artifacts to break up the monotony. I was far more impressed with this submission for 12.2 http://en.opensuse.org/File:Wallpaper-idea-swirl.png I felt it had a nice fresh contemporary feel which made what we ended up with look rather old fashioned and boring. So my keywords are: Contemporary Fresh New But hey, it's all subjective and I don't spend a lot of time staring at my desktop wallpaper anyway ;) cheers the noo, Graham -- @diakritikal https://plus.google.com/114590217224286052964 GPG Id: 0x905A22F9 GPG Fingerprint: 3BD0 7FF2 0C47 F6C4 EC2F 27B3 D497 D831 905A 22F9 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

Let me put that together for further comments: First set: 1. Simplicity Easy to reproduce. 2. Clarity Easy to understand. 3. Lightness Light on eye. 4. Impact Considering various audiences of openSUSE. Second set: 1. Subtlety Why? I'm tired of being punched in the eye by loud colour and huge logos everywhere. I know what distro I'm using. 2. Clarity Great word. We have high res monitors, art needs to make the most of them. 3. Unity Not just random cute animal or two unrelated things happening (Floating fuzzy balls don't match crisp Geeko.) a sense of design logic. Around the world with openSUSE or whatever. Third set: Contemporary Fresh New In my humble, we can create one list of all of those, but I would like to see comments like Helen gave, so that we can actually see how to combine them. I added to CC people that carry ideas to make sure they receive this mail. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

Yes, likely, what the decision gets to will be added to that page. Rajko knows how to edit these wiki pages, so we will rely on him once we reach a consensus. Andy (anditosan) On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:40 AM, DuBois, Scott L. wrote:

So the idea here is to add this section to the Artwork pages for design clarity for those who endeavor in release design? This page has some of that already and perhaps a makeover of this page with the additional information with possible examples from previous releases and why we chose them? I think it is always good for learning purposes to provide examples with explanations so contributors have guiding principles as well as imagery and explanation to go by during their development.

http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Artwork_guidelines

On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Rajko wrote:

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Let me put that together for further comments:

First set:

1. Simplicity Easy to reproduce. 2. Clarity Easy to understand. 3. Lightness Light on eye. 4. Impact Considering various audiences of openSUSE.

Second set:

1. Subtlety Why? I'm tired of being punched in the eye by loud colour and huge logos everywhere. I know what distro I'm using.

2. Clarity Great word. We have high res monitors, art needs to make the most of them.

3. Unity Not just random cute animal or two unrelated things happening (Floating fuzzy balls don't match crisp Geeko.) a sense of design logic. Around the world with openSUSE or whatever.

Third set:

Contemporary Fresh New

In my humble, we can create one list of all of those, but I would like to see comments like Helen gave, so that we can actually see how to combine them.

I added to CC people that carry ideas to make sure they receive this mail.

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I really like this idea. Right now, I will dedicate some time to do what Rajko did. To gather all comments and form a perspective on this and then we can start gathering artwork based on these concepts. For now, I think, having one theme ideal is good. Surely in the future, as artwork interests and collaboration grow, we can think in adding extra themes. But for all of that, keeping the conversation going is vital. Andy (anditosan) On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Oddball wrote:

Op 22-11-12 18:45, Rajko schreef:

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Let me put that together for further comments:

First set:

1. Simplicity Easy to reproduce. 2. Clarity Easy to understand. 3. Lightness Light on eye. 4. Impact Considering various audiences of openSUSE.

Second set:

1. Subtlety Why? I'm tired of being punched in the eye by loud colour and huge logos everywhere. I know what distro I'm using.

2. Clarity Great word. We have high res monitors, art needs to make the most of them.

3. Unity Not just random cute animal or two unrelated things happening (Floating fuzzy balls don't match crisp Geeko.) a sense of design logic. Around the world with openSUSE or whatever.

Third set:

Contemporary Fresh New

In my humble, we can create one list of all of those, but I would like to see comments like Helen gave, so that we can actually see how to combine them.

I added to CC people that carry ideas to make sure they receive this mail.

I like this schematic approach as a coat rack to get a coherent total image. Like this, it is already. Maybe it is a good idea to offer a choice. When we want to start simple, we could use the eternal approach, 1) like how it is now, with maybe a little smaller 'icons' and a more distinguished colorscheme, and 2) the openSuSE-Elegant theme.

My proposel: offer a choice somewhere in the install environment: Between the 1) openSUSE-Brand, and the 2) openSuSE-Elegant-Brand, with a little example of how it would look, and the assurance that it can be changed afterwards. And that has to be true.

This does not have to be a lot of work, because a little tweak can work miracles. Example: the floating balls are not disturbing with the oS-E theme, but the keys in the loginscreen: password.png, has to be half the size it is now to look really good. These themes should consequently work with grub legacy and grub2, or any other bootloader that openSUSE offers.

So what i think we must offer, is an easy way for the user in common, to change the appearance of his/her favorite distro, according to their 'mood'. I am not going to say that the way it is now is not doable, because it is, but it takes a tremendous effort. (took me more than a week to get everything under control, and i am not really a beginner) We should have consideration with our users, like we offer a one click-install for multimedia-support. This feels so good: To know that in a few minutes everything works the way it should: Fantastic!

Than i also want to propose to keep a version theme: Say we have 12-1-2-3-4, they should belong to a series. Find a subtle approach/way to accentuate this. An idea, i have not a ready design, but it could be the size/color/pose of a chameleon, as a mark, somewhere in a corner of the desktop, like a trademark, always there, but subtle, like a small watermark or something.

This is just a means to inspire... ..

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