Peter Czanik wrote:

I was there this year as syslog-ng guy, and it was really great. It's focused on system administrators as its name also says, and it is an area where openSUSE needs some marketing (at least I don't know many people running openSUSE on servers).

We run only openSUSE on all of our servers, internal and external. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.8°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

Hello, On 04/11/2012 07:21 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Per Jessen wrote:

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Peter Czanik wrote:

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I was there this year as syslog-ng guy, and it was really great. It's focused on system administrators as its name also says, and it is an area where openSUSE needs some marketing (at least I don't know many people running openSUSE on servers). We run only openSUSE on all of our servers, internal and external. I run it on 4 servers here and about a dozen processing systems (not really servers, they dual boot to windows based on the work that needs to be done.). Yes, I'm aware, that there are some people running openSUSE on servers, I'm one of them :) On the other hand, most people I know are using SLES, CentOS or Debian when it comes to servers, even if using openSUSE on the desktop. So we definitely need to break out from the "desktop OS" stamp. A presentation at Loadays by someone doing it at a larger scale than I (a stand alone home and university server) could help in this. And of course anywhere else, as the next Loadays is still far and away. Bye, CzP -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:

Am 12.04.2012 09:17, schrieb Peter Czanik:

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Yes, I'm aware, that there are some people running openSUSE on servers, I'm one of them :) On the other hand, most people I know are using SLES, CentOS or Debian when it comes to servers, even if using openSUSE on the desktop. So we definitely need to break out from the "desktop OS" stamp.

I'm running openSUSE on many servers (ok, as many as a hobby allows) and I couldn't agree more. But let me point out (again) that it won't work as long as we have 18 months of official support only.

We're probably going somewhat OT here, but I guess we do have a bit of a "desktop OS" image. However, if we want to break away from that, we need more than marketing. We could do with some more work in optimizing for deployment on servers - minimum selection pattern, snmp, iscsi, systemd, syslog, etc.

I still have two 11.1 servers exposed to the internet but Evergreen/11.1 is basically dead and I'm really thinking about replacing one with Debian now. I really don't want but the workload/software stack on that machine does support Debian much better than openSUSE and I don't need to think about full upgrades that often :-(

Most of my systems are running oS 11.0 or 11.1. I think I may even have an elderly 10.3 somewhere. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (7.9°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org