[opensuse-project] Distributing a distribution based on openSUSE 11.2 and created with SUSE Studio
Dear All, I would like to create a live distribution (CD and USB) based on openSUSE 11.2 with SUSE Studio, and then redistribute it. The basic idea is to provide openSUSE 11.2 with the addition of a few open source packages used in Computational Fluid Dynamics or, more generally, in scientific environments. In particular, the distribution will contain, initially: - OpenFOAM (www.openfoam.com) - Salomé ( http://www.salome-platform.org/ ) - enGrid ( http://www.salome-platform.org/ ) - wxMaxima ( http://wxmaxima.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page ) - Grace ( http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Grace/ ) The idea is to provide users of these software an easy way to access to it with openSUSE. My questions are about the redistribution. According to the guidelines I'm supposed to remove all openSUSE branding, but it is not clear to me how I should proceed on SUSE Studio to do so. Additionally, does this mean that I cannot use the "openSUSE" KDE Menu (meaning with the Geeko icon? And I have to remove the window decorations with the chameleon too, going back to a basic KDE look? Thanks for any help you'll provide. Best regards, Alberto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 07 June 2010 03:09:31 Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
Dear All,
I would like to create a live distribution (CD and USB) based on openSUSE 11.2 with SUSE Studio, and then redistribute it. The basic idea is to provide openSUSE 11.2 with the addition of a few open source packages used in Computational Fluid Dynamics or, more generally, in scientific environments. In particular, the distribution will contain, initially:
- OpenFOAM (www.openfoam.com) - Salomé ( http://www.salome-platform.org/ ) - enGrid ( http://www.salome-platform.org/ ) - wxMaxima ( http://wxmaxima.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page ) - Grace ( http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Grace/ )
The idea is to provide users of these software an easy way to access to it with openSUSE.
My questions are about the redistribution. According to the guidelines I'm supposed to remove all openSUSE branding, but it is not clear to me how I should proceed on SUSE Studio to do so.
Use the branding-upstream packages and remove the branding-openSUSE packages. That should be all, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Monday 07 June 2010 03:09:31 Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
Dear All,
I would like to create a live distribution (CD and USB) based on openSUSE 11.2 with SUSE Studio, and then redistribute it. The basic idea is to provide openSUSE 11.2 with the addition of a few open source packages used in Computational Fluid Dynamics or, more generally, in scientific environments. In particular, the distribution will contain, initially:
- OpenFOAM (www.openfoam.com) - Salomé ( http://www.salome-platform.org/ ) - enGrid ( http://www.salome-platform.org/ ) - wxMaxima ( http://wxmaxima.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page ) - Grace ( http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Grace/ )
Btw. you know that xmgrace is part of openSUSE?
The idea is to provide users of these software an easy way to access to it with openSUSE.
My questions are about the redistribution. According to the guidelines I'm supposed to remove all openSUSE branding, but it is not clear to me how I should proceed on SUSE Studio to do so.
Additionally, does this mean that I cannot use the "openSUSE" KDE Menu (meaning with the Geeko icon? And I have to remove the window decorations with the chameleon too, going back to a basic KDE look?
The upstream-branding should provide you with a KDE Menu without a Geeko icon. Btw. you could also ask for permission to use the openSUSE trademarks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Hello,
Btw. you know that xmgrace is part of openSUSE?
Yes, thanks. The hard part is Salomé, which is a very nice piece of software, but its dependencies are a glorious pain. That's why I decided to use their binary build, and put it in /opt directly. At least it's known to work.
The upstream-branding should provide you with a KDE Menu without a Geeko icon.
Btw. you could also ask for permission to use the openSUSE trademarks,
That would be interesting, given that one of the goals is to spread openSUSE in my environment, and the project is absolutely open and free (I'm the only one working on it too). How should I proceed to do that? Regards, Alberto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 09:35 -0500, Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
Btw. you could also ask for permission to use the openSUSE trademarks,
That would be interesting, given that one of the goals is to spread openSUSE in my environment, and the project is absolutely open and free (I'm the only one working on it too). How should I proceed to do that?
Regards, Alberto --
Send to us at board@o.o and we'll review it in the nearest possibility. Bryen M Yunashko opensuse Board Member -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 07 June 2010 16:38:48 Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 09:35 -0500, Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
Btw. you could also ask for permission to use the openSUSE
trademarks,
That would be interesting, given that one of the goals is to spread openSUSE in my environment, and the project is absolutely open and free (I'm the only one working on it too). How should I proceed to do that?
Regards, Alberto
Send to us at board@o.o and we'll review it in the nearest possibility.
permission@novell.com is the official address for this, ;) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Am Montag 07 Juni 2010 03:09:31 schrieb Alberto Passalacqua: Hi Alberto, cool idea what you're doing!
My questions are about the redistribution. According to the guidelines I'm supposed to remove all openSUSE branding, but it is not clear to me how I should proceed on SUSE Studio to do so. Well, I guess you need not to do anything as long as you are not adding your own brand but go with openSUSE as it comes. That should be a benefit for the project :-)
What does 'redistribution' mean in your case? I mean, how many openSUSE based appliances are on the road which haven't cared? Klaas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
Thanks for all the replies! Well, my question was motivated by the fact I would *not* like to remove the Geeko icon in the KDE menu and the artwork, because that would make openSUSE quite anonymous, and my idea is also related to promoting openSUSE in the scientific world, where I keep finding Red Hat and CentOS on my road just because they know them. Is there any chance I can maintain those, so that users can actually understand its openSUSE? ;-)
What does 'redistribution' mean in your case? I mean, how many openSUSE based appliances are on the road which haven't cared?
Redistribution means putting the ISO of the live on sourceforge (I actually created a project already called CFDGeeko, but that was before I knew all the details on the de-brading) so others can actually find it and use it. I know many do not care of the guidelines, but I don't want troubles, even if I find the "de-branding" quite annoying, and I don't understand how it can help us to market openSUSE, when the resulting distro looks like a "hand-made" distribution with default upstream logos. :-( Best, Alberto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
Am Montag 07 Juni 2010 16:30:06 schrieb Alberto Passalacqua:
Thanks for all the replies!
Well, my question was motivated by the fact I would *not* like to remove the Geeko icon in the KDE menu and the artwork, because that would make openSUSE quite anonymous, and my idea is also related to promoting openSUSE in the scientific world, where I keep finding Red Hat and CentOS on my road just because they know them. Is there any chance I can maintain those, so that users can actually understand its openSUSE? ;-) Well, yes. Do not debrand. And I think Bryen already was showing the way to make it clear by asking for permission at the board.
I don't think there will be any doubt that this would be a real win for openSUSE.
What does 'redistribution' mean in your case? I mean, how many openSUSE based appliances are on the road which haven't cared?
Redistribution means putting the ISO of the live on sourceforge (I actually created a project already called CFDGeeko, but that was before I knew all the details on the de-brading) so others can actually find it and use it.
Yes, I have this kind of appliance for download on SF with my pet project. It gets downloaded regularly and people report that its useful.
I know many do not care of the guidelines, but I don't want troubles, Sure, its better to go the save route.
even if I find the "de-branding" quite annoying, and I don't understand how it can help us to market openSUSE, when the resulting distro looks like a "hand-made" distribution with default upstream logos. :-( Yes, thats the point. Your idea is great and promotes openSUSE in a very interesting area, as other projects do. I really hope that this (your ;-) case pushes the board to work on a more general solution which is not debranding. It should be possible - let's cross fingers :)
regards, Klaas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 07 June 2010 23:11:45 Klaas Freitag wrote:
Am Montag 07 Juni 2010 16:30:06 schrieb Alberto Passalacqua:
even if I find the "de-branding" quite annoying, and I don't understand how it can help us to market openSUSE, when the resulting distro looks like a "hand-made" distribution with default upstream logos. :-(
Yes, thats the point. Your idea is great and promotes openSUSE in a very interesting area, as other projects do. I really hope that this (your ;-) case pushes the board to work on a more general solution which is not debranding. It should be possible - let's cross fingers :)
It would be great, if we could make the trademark guidelines more suitable for
openSUSE based systems. I think, if a project doesn't work against the goals
of openSUSE or misrepresents as the official distribution, there is no real
reason to not call it openSUSE based and have some openSUSE branding just
because you add a package.
So if we could make the guidelines more liberal in that it also allows systems
making use of openSUSE as a base being called powered by openSUSE or something
like that and have openSUSE branding like the gecko menu button still in
place, it would be much more helpful for spreading the word about openSUSE.
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Cornelius Schumacher
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Alberto Passalacqua -
Andreas Jaeger -
Bryen M. Yunashko -
Cornelius Schumacher -
Klaas Freitag