On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Benji Weber wrote:

2009/9/3 Boyd Lynn Gerber :

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Hello,

After talking with a few people I would like to solicit ideas for a new name for our openSLES project.  The driving factor for this is to avoid confusion with SLES.  It will also allow us to avoid any conflicts with copyright, trademark and branding.

So put on your hats and assist us with comping up with a new name.

Last time this came up someone suggested CENSLES which I liked (Say it out loud)

Am I right in thinking that the abbreviation "SLES" is not trademarked?

You can find at least a partial list of trademarks on Novell's site here: http://www.novell.com/company/legal/trademarks/tmlist.html If you have questions about Novell trademarks that you need a definitive answer to, email permission@novell.com. They'll usually respond pretty quickly. Best, Zonker -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier openSUSE Community Manager: http://zonker.opensuse.org Blogs: http://blogs.zdnet.com/community | http://www.dissociatedpress.net Twitter: jzb | Identica: jzb http://identi.ca/group/opensuse/members -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

AccentOS - Another Community's Complimentary Enterprise OS Or since it is 'paired' with openSUSE or SLES or SLED: Another Community's Conjugate Enterprise OS (or some such description) e.g Another Community's CentOS Cheers Mark On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Pascal Bleser wrote:

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I think this is a good topic for discussion at the conference.  I hope we may find someone that is attending the conference to chapion it.

/me proposes "GreenOS"

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On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:

Names so far... Geeko Enterprise Linux (GEL) Green Enterprise Linux (GEL) Geeko Linux Enterpise Server (GLES) Green Linux Enterpise Server (GLES) Community Enterprise Server (CES) SINS Is Not SLES (SINS) GreenOS (GOS) GeekoOS (GOS) GreenOS Is Not SLES (GINS) GOSINS) Green InterNet Server (GINS) Green Internet Server (GIS) Geeko Internet Server (GIS) Green Enterprise Integration Linux (GEIL) Geeko Enterprise Integration Linux (GEIL) Green Is Not Green (GING) CENSLES Green Lizard Enterprise Distribution (GLED) Geeko Lizard Enterprise Distribution (GLED) Green Enterpize (GENT) Green Bee Linux Green Rock Enterpise Linux (GREL) Geeko Rock Enterpise Linux (GREL) Green Community Linux (GCL) Geek Community Linux (GCL) Green Mean Linux (GML) Geeko Mean Linux (GML) The Distribution Formerly Known As SLES TDFKAS Yet Another Enterprise Linux (YAEL) Yet Another Linux Enterprise (YALE) White Label Enterprise Linux (WLEL)

Black Cat Enterprise Linux (BCEL)

Green granite with a rock as the logo. I like the imagery Using purple as our color.using the wikipedia connotations of purple.

royalty, imperialism, nobility, Easter, Mardi Gras, upper class, poison, friendship, sharing, wisdom, and sympathy

I like the take of friendship, sharing wisdom and sympathy. with some plant as the log. That has friendship and peace

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Geeko the Gecko is the SUSE mascot. I'm not sure if his name is trademarked. So we could interchange Geeko for Gecko if necessary. On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Greg Freemyer wrote:

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:

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Names so far... Geeko Enterprise Linux (GEL) Green Enterprise Linux (GEL) Geeko Linux Enterpise Server (GLES) Green Linux Enterpise Server (GLES) Community Enterprise Server (CES) SINS Is Not SLES (SINS) GreenOS (GOS) GeekoOS (GOS) GreenOS Is Not SLES (GINS) GOSINS) Green InterNet Server (GINS) Green Internet Server (GIS) Geeko Internet Server (GIS) Green Enterprise Integration Linux (GEIL) Geeko Enterprise Integration Linux (GEIL) Green Is Not Green (GING) CENSLES Green Lizard Enterprise Distribution (GLED) Geeko Lizard Enterprise Distribution (GLED) Green Enterpize (GENT) Green Bee Linux Green Rock Enterpise Linux (GREL) Geeko Rock Enterpise Linux (GREL) Green Community Linux (GCL) Geek Community Linux (GCL) Green Mean Linux (GML) Geeko Mean Linux (GML) The Distribution Formerly Known As SLES TDFKAS Yet Another Enterprise Linux (YAEL) Yet Another Linux Enterprise (YALE) White Label Enterprise Linux (WLEL)

Boyd,

In the above you use Geeko often, and Gecko never.  Is that all typos, or are you avoiding Gecko?

If Geeko is accurate, I think it is a really poor choice.  Gecko I like.

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On Friday 04 September 2009 17:38:55 Jason Perlow wrote:

Actually as it occured to me that virtually all SLES/SUSE development takes place in Nuremburg and southern germany, we could call it Black Forest Enterprise Linux (BFEL).

That is not true. We have the build farm in Nuernberg but engineers are world-wide - and I expect that more than 50 per cent are not in Nuernberg. And if you add all the Open Source developers working on projects that end in distributions, it's also different. Nevertheless, using such a name is fine but I would state it differently. Btw. Black Forest is 200miles away from Nuernberg. Frankonia is the region Nuernberg is in, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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On 9/7/2009 at 12:53 PM, Juergen Weigert wrote: On Sep 07, 09 10:23:03 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: On Friday 04 September 2009 17:38:55 Jason Perlow wrote: Actually as it occured to me that virtually all SLES/SUSE development takes place in Nuremburg and southern germany, we could call it Black Forest Enterprise Linux (BFEL).

NOEL - Nuernberg Open Enterprise Linux ?

That's a name for a x-mas edition :) (noel in French means x-mas). Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

What about contributor's living in the United States, England or other countries outside of Germany, so I feel naming the system should have no relationship to territory. If the system is related to all living in an area fine but it is not and is used by people world wide. We are not creating a system to just attract users in Germany but world wide. On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Jason Perlow wrote:

Frankonia Enterprise Server is a cool name, actually.

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Juergen Weigert wrote:

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On Sep 07, 09 10:23:03 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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On Friday 04 September 2009 17:38:55 Jason Perlow wrote:

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Actually as it occured to me that virtually all SLES/SUSE development takes place in Nuremburg and southern germany, we could call it Black Forest Enterprise Linux (BFEL).

NOEL - Nuernberg Open Enterprise Linux ?

What about contributor's living in the United States, England or other countries outside of Germany, so I feel naming the system should have no relationship to territory. If the system is related to all living in an area fine but it is not and will be used by people world wide. We are not creating a system to just attract users in Germany but world wide.

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That is not true.  We have the build farm in Nuernberg but engineers are world-wide - and I expect that more than 50 per cent are not in Nuernberg. And if you add all the Open Source developers working on projects that end in distributions, it's also different.

Nevertheless, using such a name is fine but I would state it differently.

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Btw. Black Forest is 200miles away from Nuernberg.  Frankonia is the region Nuernberg is in,

Good point. A reference to Franconia would be great. Just call it Walberla 12.0

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On Friday 04 September 2009 16:13:21 Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:

Names so far... Geeko Enterprise Linux (GEL) Green Enterprise Linux (GEL) Geeko Linux Enterpise Server (GLES) Green Linux Enterpise Server (GLES) Community Enterprise Server (CES) SINS Is Not SLES (SINS) GreenOS (GOS) GeekoOS (GOS) GreenOS Is Not SLES (GINS) GOSINS) Green InterNet Server (GINS) Green Internet Server (GIS) Geeko Internet Server (GIS) Green Enterprise Integration Linux (GEIL) Geeko Enterprise Integration Linux (GEIL) Green Is Not Green (GING) CENSLES Green Lizard Enterprise Distribution (GLED) Geeko Lizard Enterprise Distribution (GLED) Green Enterpize (GENT) Green Bee Linux Green Rock Enterpise Linux (GREL) Geeko Rock Enterpise Linux (GREL) Green Community Linux (GCL) Geek Community Linux (GCL) Green Mean Linux (GML) Geeko Mean Linux (GML) The Distribution Formerly Known As SLES TDFKAS Yet Another Enterprise Linux (YAEL) Yet Another Linux Enterprise (YALE) White Label Enterprise Linux (WLEL)

Green granite with a rock as the logo. I like the imagery Using purple as our color.using the wikipedia connotations of purple.

royalty, imperialism, nobility, Easter, Mardi Gras, upper class, poison, friendship, sharing, wisdom, and sympathy

I like the take of friendship, sharing wisdom and sympathy. with some plant as the log. That has friendship and peace

Many of these names seem to focus on having a pronounceable acronym, but the name doesn't quite seem to fit the product or make sense. The product name should be more important than it's acronym. Focus on the product name i.m.o then derive an acronym that fits. *Open Enterprise Server* -- “Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes.” ☘ Oscar Wilde -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:40:42 -0600, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:

On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Graham Anderson wrote:

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Many of these names seem to focus on having a pronounceable acronym, but the name doesn't quite seem to fit the product or make sense. The product name should be more important than it's acronym. Focus on the product name i.m.o then derive an acronym that fits.

*Open Enterprise Server*

You have a very good point. I have added it to the names I am collecting.

Open Enterprise Server would be confusing as it's a Novell product. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:57:05 +0200, Juergen Weigert wrote:

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Open Enterprise Server would be confusing as it's a Novell product. Right, OES awakens old memories. Not good.

Certainly for those who used OESv1. OES2 isn't bad, especially with the latest service pack applied.

My vote is for OSES.

I think just openSUSE LTS would be sufficient, myself. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Klaas Freitag wrote:

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My vote is for OSES. OpenSUSE Enterprise Server. As simple as that.

Let's also consider some more meaningful names such as OSIRIS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris

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On Friday 04 September 2009 21:43:11 Jason Perlow wrote:

It's a cool name, but uncle adolf was a huge fan of egyptology. :)

KVES Klatu Verata Niktu Enterprise Server Please note the spelling, there's another Klatu but it should be deemed untrustworthy. Or do you wish to argue with my boomstick!! ;) -- “Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes.” ☘ Oscar Wilde -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Jim Henderson wrote:

On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:40:42 -0600, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:

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On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Graham Anderson wrote:

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Many of these names seem to focus on having a pronounceable acronym, but the name doesn't quite seem to fit the product or make sense. The product name should be more important than it's acronym. Focus on the product name i.m.o then derive an acronym that fits.

*Open Enterprise Server*

You have a very good point. I have added it to the names I am collecting.

Open Enterprise Server would be confusing as it's a Novell product.

I agree. -- Boyd Gerber 801 849-0213 ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

On Friday 04 September 2009 20:15:52 Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote:

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:

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On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Jim Henderson wrote:

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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:40:42 -0600, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:

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On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Graham Anderson wrote:

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Many of these names seem to focus on having a pronounceable acronym, but the name doesn't quite seem to fit the product or make sense. The product name should be more important than it's acronym. Focus on the product name i.m.o then derive an acronym that fits.

*Open Enterprise Server*

http://www.novell.com/products/openenterpriseserver/

That one is sort of taken... ;-)

Best,

Z

A testament to Novell's marketing prowess, no doubt, *cough, ahem* ;) "Just like netware, only better" I fondly remember the day when there was _nothing_ better than Netware. Arguably on some fronts there is still nothing better than Netware + NDS, but I digress. Novell's products have always been renowned for their technical excellence. Netware, NDS/eDir and so on. SuSE linux was always known for it's great engineering and technical excellence also. If there's a need for a stepping stone to SLES, then the product/distro/project should not lose sight of the core engineering excellence that Novell Inc and SuSE Gmbh stand for. The project/product name should reflect the aforementioned technical excellence; non-descriptive names such as green, rock, blue, black, purple, geecko, nerdo, mean, lean, fighting, machine... these are just confusing. Focus on your goal, and *name it appropriately*. Engineers and technical decision makers are your target audience, not "Trendy Toad" desktop installs. Great engineering is cool, bad acronyms are not. I think that's my point, for now. -- “Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes.” ☘ Oscar Wilde -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, 5 Sep 2009, Dominique Leuenberger wrote:

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On 9/4/2009 at 7:29 PM, Graham Anderson wrote: *Open Enterprise Server*

It seems you're not aware at all of the novell products :-) This one is guaranteed to give you issues: http://www.novell.com/products/openenterpriseserver/

I remembered the product. I was just listing everything reported. I have since done a quick review and removed the one where I think there are issues. I will post a final list. I am setting up a webpage listing them. I was using FAQ-O-Matic. But I did not really like it for this purpose. I need to finish the installation and setup of the wiki for my site. It would be wiki.zenez.com. I did not want to put it on the openSUSE wiki as I do not want any possible legal issues. I have not heard back from the community wiki persons I emailed about using it. So it is not up there. So the only real option is my finishing the wiki setup on my domain. -- Boyd Gerber 801 849-0213 ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org