2011/11/23 Pascal Bleser :

On 2011-11-23 14:25:42 (-0800), Greg KH wrote:

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On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 08:03:55PM -0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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Heya all,

Going back to the discussion we had a while ago about moving to Tumbleweed in openSUSE 12.1.

After a little bit of thinking* I concluded that of course all (new) tumbleweed users need to move over to this setup of using the 'current' instead of the 12.1 repositories. So I changed the Tumbleweed page to reflect this: http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed And also: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Change_from_12.1_to_Tumbleweed

It makes the text a bit complicated. And I suck at un-complicating it, I suppose, help is welcome.

But there is another matter I'm sure some of you object to much more strongly: I use a self-made one-click-install file for adding Tumbleweed**. I dunno if OCI can remove repo's but at least I can add the right ones... However. I have no idea where to host the file. So for now I put it on my *anathema* public dropbox...

OCI cannot remove repos.

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It's not bad, I had it hosted on kernel.org for a long time before that site went down :)

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Yes, horrible, I know. I'm however sure our sysadmins can find a much better spot for this one-click install. And maybe also for the one-click-install for ownCloud, if we have one that works better?!? http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed

I just decided to go ahead, make the OCI and put it somewhere to have at least an improvement over the current situation ;-)

I can put it on opensu.se (aka opensuse-community.org).

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I would love to be able to figure out how to add a file like this to the wiki to be hosted within it, anyone know how to do this? thanks,

Would be a wiki attachment then, which produces rather odd URLs.

Another option would be to have the ymp file on a proper URL (e.g. http://i.opensu.se/tumbleweed has an automagically generated one) and simply link to it from the wiki.

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** Credit to Greg KH who made it, I just added the 'current' repo's to it too

Nice, glad to see you added this, but doesn't this also mean you need to disable the 12.1 repos as well?

Well the openSUSE:Tumbleweed/standard repository provides a "diff" to 12.1, so that's alright.

But I presume you mean all the other ("add-on") repositories and there, indeed, one should disable the 12.1 repos, as the tumbleweed repositories there contain everything, instead of a diff to 12.1.

That cannot be done with OCI though, and I don't see how that could be achieved using OCI in the first place.

Have to do this:  zypper ar http://r.opensu.se/tumbleweed.repo

(If vendor change prohibition is enabled (which it is by default), shouldn't the tumbleweed repo have a higher priority ? e.g. by adding a line "priority=20" in its .repo file ?)

On a side note, only few of those "add-on" repositories are available for Tumbleweed.

cheers --  -o) Pascal Bleser  /\\ http://opensuse.org -- we haz green  _\_v http://fosdem.org   -- we haz conf

Hi, Can the "services" feature of zypper be used for this? I don't know if its implemented/available in openSUSE, http://old-en.opensuse.org/Standards/Repository_Index_Service Regards, Luiz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

On Thursday, November 24, 2011 09:58:41 todd rme wrote:

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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Heya all,

Going back to the discussion we had a while ago about moving to Tumbleweed in openSUSE 12.1.

After a little bit of thinking* I concluded that of course all (new) tumbleweed users need to move over to this setup of using the 'current' instead of the 12.1 repositories. So I changed the Tumbleweed page to reflect this: http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed And also: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Change_from_12.1_to_Tumbleweed

It makes the text a bit complicated. And I suck at un-complicating it, I suppose, help is welcome.

But there is another matter I'm sure some of you object to much more strongly: I use a self-made one-click-install file for adding Tumbleweed**. I dunno if OCI can remove repo's but at least I can add the right ones... However. I have no idea where to host the file. So for now I put it on my *anathema* public dropbox...

/me hides

Yes, horrible, I know. I'm however sure our sysadmins can find a much better spot for this one-click install. And maybe also for the one-click-install for ownCloud, if we have one that works better?!? http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed

I just decided to go ahead, make the OCI and put it somewhere to have at least an improvement over the current situation ;-)

The openSUSE-KDE team hosts them inside their own repo. For instance take a look here:

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Distro:/Factory/openSUSE_12.1 /

You can see they have KDE4-BASIS.ymp, KDE4-DEFAULT.ymp, KDE4-DEVEL.ymp, and KDE4-GAMES.ymp hosted right in their repo directory tree. That seems like a logical place for it, especially since anyone trying to set it up manually will automatically come across the ymp files when doing so. You could probably ask them how they do that.

Now THIS is an excellent suggestion. I think I'll try to create a 'package' with just that file, then submit it to Tumbleweed so it can be maintained in there :D See if GregKH likes that idea... Meanwhile, I understood OCI can not help us remove the 'old' repositories. I have written down in the how-to on openSUSE.org/Tumbleweed how to remove them but it'd be far nicer if OCI could take care of that. I suspect giving OCI such power is a bit dangerous from a security perspective? Or is it something we could add some day, provided someone steps up to do it?

-Todd