[opensuse-project] Re: [RFC] / for TSP + 3 others («return of the geekos plushes»)
On 16 June 2015 at 18:26, Françoise Wybrecht
III) "Request for Change"
From A to G + 3 - openSUSE contributors can agree, desagree or don't mind.
A) As a change, I would appreciate to see Ancor - If he is OK AND SUSE is OK - becoming the "TSP team leader" (with a monthly paid hours to assure the quality of the TSP - timing & communication) :
agree desagree don't mind
B) As a change, I suggest to "add" two "optional resources supervisors" (for example 1 SUSE and 1 openSUSE, as Sarah and Sleepwalker, or any other, per, Frédéric, Christopher ...) - who could be asked to give their opinion in case the team is not sure to take the fair decision.
C ) As a change, I request TSP up to 100 % for openSUSE volonteers (*) working 100 % of the "event time" (as the video team, as OSC organizers, as mini-summits, as booths (in any open event), as any openSUSE talk done (in an open event)
(*) I do not know if SUSE employees can be concerned by TSP or not - but as far as they do 100 % work on their holliday time - of course the are (logically) integrated in this change request.
D ) As a change, I request TSP up to 80 % for openSUSE volonteers working minimum 50 % of the "event time" (as helping for booth, taking pictures, writing articles, welcoming ppl etc.)
E) As a change, I request TSP maximum 30 % for openSUSE volonteers who are coming just to see conferences, to share fun and to see friends and do not have ministers salary - meaning : helping them (when without the TSP, they cannot come) (as helping for booth, taking pictures, writing articles, welcoming ppl etc.)
F ) As a change, I request at least one "brainstorming and decisions meeting " (or more) with the concerned people (the board and/or TSP team + SUSE "financial decision makers - manager) to :
* find solutions on "HOW can we reduce (+++) the "reimbursement delay" ? or even give the money to ppl who cannot advance it (what about having a annual budget for openSUSE TSP ?)
* as any financial budget has a limit - would it be possible to know the annual budget for TSP and "which events and actions are mostly appreciated by the sponsor SUSE & openSUSE teams - seen as having a good impact (can be suggested as priorities for 2015 or 2016) = give as much informations as possible to volonteers wishing to help and act.
Annexe (for the mostly appreciated actions) :
- mini-summit Asia or Scale were OK (from what I saw, read or heard)
- are booth still encouraged ? (in openSource events) - are openSUSE talks encouraged?
- are hackweek or hack-week-ends encouraged (for example one team wishing to work 4 days on packaging ... / would the TSP pay travel and hotel ? Would it be possible in such cases to avoid the TSP and pay directly the hotel + travel for example.)
Comment : if you give ideas and money to do that kind of things, I am sure that more and more contributors will DO and DO more (giving hours and hours to produce with FUN).
Question: Have you discussed any of this with the existing TSP team? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
If I understand well (?)
you (Richard) did denied my [RFC] request posted to the community &
board, with 7 suggestions for the TSP ameliorations (suggested to the
community - Of course I have no power to decide, I just shared ideas for
evolving )
The message from
Question: Have you discussed any of this with the existing TSP team?
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On 16 June 2015 at 19:15, Françoise Wybrecht
If I understand well (?)
you (Richard) did denied my [RFC] request posted to the community & board, with 7 suggestions for the TSP ameliorations (suggested to the community - Of course I have no power to decide, I just shared ideas for evolving )
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Date: 16/06/15 18:26 To:OS-prjct
, board@opensuse.org if you wish to denie, do it on all message ... don't delete what explain the RFC.
On 16/06/15 18:32, Richard Brown wrote:
Question: Have you discussed any of this with the existing TSP team?
I denied no message Nor have I denied, rejected, or otherwise commented on your RFC I have asked a simple question, regarding the sections of your RFC related to changes to the TSP. Have you asked the TSP Team, the people currently working on the TSP, before proposing changes to their Programme? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 16 June 2015 19:28:46 Richard Brown wrote:
On 16 June 2015 at 19:15, Françoise Wybrecht
wrote: The message from
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I denied no message
The message was denied by a rule set up by an administrator of the mailing
list. Could one of the list administrators please check what rule that was?
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Cornelius Schumacher
2015-06-16 23:33 GMT+03:00 Cornelius Schumacher
On Tuesday 16 June 2015 19:28:46 Richard Brown wrote:
On 16 June 2015 at 19:15, Françoise Wybrecht
wrote: The message from
with subject "[RFC] / for TSP + 3 others («return of the geek os plushes»)" was unable to be delivered to the list because of an access rule set up by the list administrator. I denied no message
The message was denied by a rule set up by an administrator of the mailing list. Could one of the list administrators please check what rule that was?
Reading the other message, should be the HTML message. Mailing lists accept only txt. /S -- Great leaders don't tell you what to do...They show you how it's done. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts...absolutely. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 16 June 2015 23:44:48 Efstathios Iosifidis wrote:
Reading the other message, should be the HTML message. Mailing lists accept only txt.
Thanks for the clarification.
It would be nice, if the mailing list software would be a bit more verbose and
friendly there. I think Mailman is a bit better there as it provides some more
information, e.g. for example also who the admins of the lists are. But I
don't want to start a discussion about the tools here, so feel free to ignore
that ;-)
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Cornelius Schumacher
On 2015-06-17 15:54, Cornelius Schumacher wrote:
It would be nice, if the mailing list software would be a bit more verbose and friendly there.
This is true. I have been contacted several times, off-list, by people that were unable to posts on one of the mail lists, and having no idea why. The wording of those rejection posts is not clear enough. I have no idea if the software can be tuned to be more informative about the real cause of the rejection. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Le 16/06/2015 19:15, Françoise Wybrecht a écrit :
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this is an automatic answer by the mail server, not anything rejected by the recipient. only reading the whole message (source from the server) may show why. If ypu want, send it to me privately jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
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Françoise Wybrecht
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Richard Brown