On pon, cze 24, 2019 at 8:36 PM, Imad Aldoj wrote:

So based on information gathered mostly from the wiki and general knowledge, I noticed that openSUSE was quite popular between 2008-2012 [2008 I guess this has to do with the first elected board] Throughout these years it seems every team had a plan, everyone has a weekly meeting (not just the board) and most mailing lists were at their peak; but suddenly many wiki pages stop right after that, it's weird reading about what a team was planning for next week then... blank.

Things that might be related: - 2 members stepped down from the 5th board [2012]

Peter Linnell was hired by SUSE at the time, so he had to step down from board (too many SUSE employees on board). Alan Clark I believe had some other opportunities in open source, and good for him, OpenStack is pretty damn cool. I don't think either had alter motive to leave, it was just life moved on quickly :D

- News team almost stops completely around 2011 [Saigkill seems to be the one who kept pages pretty active at the time]

Zonker (jzb) left openSUSE around 2010, that might be one of the reasons.

And I'm sure there're other events that I didn't keep track of but that doesn't affect the question really

openSUSE was getting quite a bit of attention in the mainstream tech media at the time, that contributed something to its popularity as well.

If nothing maybe happened at that exact time then what happened to all those people who created and used to make the mailing list alive? how things changed? it kinda bugs me, I'm just wondering because this part isn't documented and I can't think of anything based on what I've.

Novell fired quite a bit of people at the time, so there were way less people actually being able/willing to contribute. It was quite a blow to openSUSE and KDE and some Gnome apps, which no longer had as much corporate support as with those people in the positions they were in. Some more people left by themselves, for other red and more open source corporation :P So yeah, #blamenovell I guess? LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

Le 24/06/2019 à 20:36, Imad Aldoj a écrit :

their peak; but suddenly many wiki pages stop right after that, it's weird reading about what a team was planning for next week then... blank.

I only remember than at some time it was decided to clean the wiki and I stopped writing on it at the moment. there was also a "community manager" around first OSC (2011 - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jospoortvliet/) and soon after there where no more jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

On 25/06/2019 04:06, Imad Aldoj wrote:

So based on information gathered mostly from the wiki and general knowledge, I noticed that openSUSE was quite popular between 2008-2012 [2008 I guess this has to do with the first elected board] Throughout these years it seems every team had a plan, everyone has a weekly meeting (not just the board) and most mailing lists were at their peak; but suddenly many wiki pages stop right after that, it's weird reading about what a team was planning for next week then... blank.

Things that might be related: - 2 members stepped down from the 5th board [2012] - News team almost stops completely around 2011 [Saigkill seems to be the one who kept pages pretty active at the time] And I'm sure there're other events that I didn't keep track of but that doesn't affect the question really

If nothing maybe happened at that exact time then what happened to all those people who created and used to make the mailing list alive? how things changed? it kinda bugs me, I'm just wondering because this part isn't documented and I can't think of anything based on what I've.

Each board has the choice of how much of there minutes they make public, some have chosen to not release any publically, some have minuted everything, the current board sits somewhere in between these two. We try to be open and transparent about everything we can, but there are some things we can't, if we are dealing with conflict resolution we also won't really put that in any detail. Another thing to consider more generally is tools have got better and mailing lists aren't necessarily the best thing for everything anymore. For example most openSUSE teams have moved there code to github and use some of its features such as creating issues a lot more then posting on mailing lists, similarly other teams are using telegram or slack and some such as the artwork team have now basically replaced that mailing list with a discord channel because they find it quicker and more convenient for collaborating. For example all the concepts for a new logo have either been discussed on the opensuse branding github project or discord, 10 years ago such discussions would have happened on mailing lists. Cheers -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org