Re: [opensuse-project] Draft of Desktop Policy
I can agree with this proposal with alphatically order and
preselecting the most popular. It could also be horizontally presented, even
better.
The proposition contructive. Making both "preselected" and "orderd by
popularity"
is too much. The order can also, as I suggested in a mail, change from on to
another release, without impacting the preselection.
But let make clear how the popularity is determined: would it be by a
survey, by statistics on the servers (updates or oss repository download for
example, even if it doesn't 100% prove the actual "use" of a desktop as one
can install both).
2009/8/4 Andreas Jaeger
Could you answer on the list, please?
Sorry, I thought I did. My Reply All bugged ;-)
Please explain what you mean with "make clear how it's determined",
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I'm fine with defining the statistical base upon which the most popular DE will be determined, but listing DE's alphabetically does works against the whole point of the exercise. If you want a pre-determined newb-install experience then do not create confusion by failing to make the pre-selection obvious to the new user. If you list alphabetically, but preselect KDE you create confusion; "is it really pre-selected, or do i still have to make a choice? can i get away with just clicking next, or does this require better knowledge?" If you horizontally list the DE choices you are just finding a fancy way of not having an easy desktop install experience, why bother in the first place. People understand heirarchy as well as they understand computer menus with a star in one of the options. If the pre-selected DE is at the top that sends a message, if it has a star in it by default that re-inforces the message. If there is a second choice that is clearly not packaged into "other" that tells you there is an officially sanctioned alternative. [x] KDE (officially supported and most popular) [_] Gnome (officially supported) [_] Other (other desktop environments you may use) If there is going to be a pre-selected DE, then that is the way to do it. Jean Cayron wrote:
I can agree with this proposal with alphatically order and preselecting the most popular. It could also be horizontally presented, even better. The proposition contructive. Making both "preselected" and "orderd by popularity" is too much. The order can also, as I suggested in a mail, change from on to another release, without impacting the preselection.
But let make clear how the popularity is determined: would it be by a survey, by statistics on the servers (updates or oss repository download for example, even if it doesn't 100% prove the actual "use" of a desktop as one can install both).
2009/8/4 Andreas Jaeger
Could you answer on the list, please?
Sorry, I thought I did. My Reply All bugged ;-)
Please explain what you mean with "make clear how it's determined",
Thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
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Onsdag den 5. august 2009 11:36:51 skrev Matt Gray:
If you list alphabetically, but preselect KDE you create confusion; "is it really pre-selected, or do i still have to make a choice? can i get away with just clicking next, or does this require better knowledge?" If you horizontally list the DE choices you are just finding a fancy way of not having an easy desktop install experience, why bother in the first place.
If the accompanying text in the screen states that the list is alphabetical I'm ok with it. If not, then I agree with the above. Noone intuitively interprets it as an alphabetizised list - maybe they would if there were 3-4 entries, but not now. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
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