[opensuse-project] Looking for sponsors.
This is answer to Re: [opensuse-project] How to name our releases? Archive message number 9529. It is new topic, that still has no real need to discuss, but this has to be set properly, just as Nelson stated. On Friday, March 11, 2011 08:59:34 AM Nelson Marques wrote:
When from a marketing point view, instead of paying them royalties for using their intellectual property, we should be considering doing some money for promoting their stuff ;)
I don't think it will ever happen.
Everything begun with an idea. With Foundation it will be valid job to look for sponsors, even those that we never considered before. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Rajko M.
This is answer to Re: [opensuse-project] How to name our releases? Archive message number 9529.
It is new topic, that still has no real need to discuss, but this has to be set properly, just as Nelson stated.
On Friday, March 11, 2011 08:59:34 AM Nelson Marques wrote:
When from a marketing point view, instead of paying them royalties for using their intellectual property, we should be considering doing some money for promoting their stuff ;)
I don't think it will ever happen.
Everything begun with an idea. With Foundation it will be valid job to look for sponsors, even those that we never considered before.
Investors would be nicer than just 'sponsors'... Besides it sounds far more attractive... If you are looking for an idea... Run a pool on how many people are using with Linux those USB pens for mobile connectivity and ring some bells... Vodafone would be awesome. I know that it will be hard, and the best way is actually by phone... There's around 85 Mobile Operators (or used to be in 2008) and over 350 MVNO's. I would strongly consider knocking on Vodafone's bell, as I've had some cool experiences with them in the past and they pretty nice as long as you promote them... Maybe considering supporting in full Vodafone would open a nice relation... I'm not available for establishing such contacts, I would recommend Marketing to do that... A good idea to start looking for corporate contacts would be Kompass[1] (unless you already have the contacts of some top product managers). [1] - http://kompass.com Just an idea... good luck. NM
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This is answer to Re: [opensuse-project] How to name our releases? Archive message number 9529.
Investors would be nicer than just 'sponsors'... Besides it sounds far more attractive... If you are looking for an idea... Run a pool on how many people are using with Linux those USB pens for mobile connectivity and ring some bells... Vodafone would be awesome.
Just an idea... good luck.
NM
Interesting idea. Once the foundation is established, I expect there will be some serious formal discussion on fund-raising methods. One key area will be the Shop - I think quality product and a good international delivery system will see many users keen to get openSUSE gear! Sponsorship seems to me to have different connotations to being an Investor, and being an investor implies an expectation of return. (I think there was a related thread on this somewhere: with some types of donation, the money is free to be used as we see fit; other forms of donation allow the donor/sponsor to dictate terms). There will also be ethical considerations: it's critical that any sponsors are appropriate to an open source project and won't create conflicts due business practices, political or religious affiliations. cheers, Helen -- IRC: helen_au helen.south@opensuse.org helensouth.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Helen South
This is answer to Re: [opensuse-project] How to name our releases? Archive message number 9529.
Investors would be nicer than just 'sponsors'... Besides it sounds far more attractive... If you are looking for an idea... Run a pool on how many people are using with Linux those USB pens for mobile connectivity and ring some bells... Vodafone would be awesome.
Just an idea... good luck.
NM
Interesting idea.
Once the foundation is established, I expect there will be some serious formal discussion on fund-raising methods. One key area will be the Shop - I think quality product and a good international delivery system will see many users keen to get openSUSE gear!
Sponsorship seems to me to have different connotations to being an Investor, and being an investor implies an expectation of return.
Helen, I believe the principle is quite simple... there's always a 'costs vs benefits' relation, even in sponsoring. Either by visibility, social, financial, taxes, etc... there is usually a benefit. You can look good amongst a given audience, you can gain visibility, you can give some strategical advantage to your sponsors (investors), etc... The position of openSUSE also as a downstreamer might enable us to have a wider set of options... One quick out of the box example... the ISO19001 certification process and some of heavy/light weights of the industry. For example, could we launch a 'hardware recycling' campaign? Would it be something _attractive_ to potential investors (ex: hardware recyclers and hardware manufacturers)? Do we have audience to launch such campaign (ex: hardware recycling)? How could investing in such campaigns bring benefits to a friendly company which is being/renewing certification for ISO19001? And most important of all, how much could we squeeze off them for it ? :) This is a way out of the box example, but is it that unrealistic?
(I think there was a related thread on this somewhere: with some types of donation, the money is free to be used as we see fit; other forms of donation allow the donor/sponsor to dictate terms).
That's kinda political of course, not really my fight. Of course that as a potential donner/investor, I can always choosed if I want to donate it or not under your terms. It's like a trade, both sides have to actually accept it and at some point have some advantage from it. If you are not attractive, no trade, no donation.
There will also be ethical considerations: it's critical that any sponsors are appropriate to an open source project and won't create conflicts due business practices, political or religious affiliations.
Ethical considerations are pretty much something we deal everyday. Whenever you address either an international community or minorities, all of this concerns should've been already handled by Marketing. Not really my fight also.
cheers,
Helen
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Nelson Marques wrote:
I believe the principle is quite simple... there's always a 'costs vs benefits' relation, even in sponsoring. Either by visibility, social, financial, taxes, etc... there is usually a benefit.
An investor would expect a tangible benefit, whereas a sponsor wouldn't. In book-keeping, an investment is a property/liability, a sponsoring only an expense.
The position of openSUSE also as a downstreamer might enable us to have a wider set of options... One quick out of the box example... the ISO19001 certification process and some of heavy/light weights of the industry.
I guess you meant ISO14001?
For example, could we launch a 'hardware recycling' campaign?
It's already done in many places. For instance, everytime I buy hardware, I pay for the recycling up front. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (10.2°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
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Helen South
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Nelson Marques
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Per Jessen
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Rajko M.