From mrmazda@earthlink.net Sat Mar 27 06:24:45 2021 From: Felix Miata To: project@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [project] software.opensuse.org and download.opensuse.org are miserable re: MC and pegging CPU waiting to connect and waiting to load Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 02:24:34 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8860334923550186998==" --===============8860334923550186998== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=3Dmc&project=3DopenSUS= E%3AFactory clearly lists mc 4.8.26 availability @ https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/x86_64/= mc-4.8.26-1.1.x86_64.rpm which apparently doesn't exist, as also not https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/ If I try to fetch it, it redirects to https://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/x86_64/mc-4.8.25-1.4.x86_64= .rpm which is very much not what I'm interested in. All download.opensuse.org, as previously reported, take forever to load when trying to check in a web browser: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/69736 https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/62255 mc 4.8.26 was officially released more than 3 months ago. --=20 Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based on faith, not on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ --===============8860334923550186998==-- From hellcp@opensuse.org Sat Mar 27 08:04:58 2021 From: Sasi Olin To: project@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [project] software.opensuse.org and download.opensuse.org are miserable re: MC and pegging CPU waiting to connect and waiting to load Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 08:56:59 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4585319682946463538==" --===============4585319682946463538== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sa, M=C3=A4r 27, 2021 at 02:24, Felix Miata =20 wrote: > All download.opensuse.org, as previously reported, take forever to=20 > load when > trying to check in a web browser: > https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/69736 > https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/62255 I was gonna have the css load from static so we can use the same cache=20 as the rest of the websites, maybe that will help some https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/90447 We have been using html printed version of the file index since at=20 least 2018 (which you can check with web archive), so I'm not sure why=20 that popped up recently? I can adjust the theme so it works with=20 plaintext listing, though in case of download.opensuse.org you will=20 never see the listing for Leap 15.2 x86_64 repos be 2.9M like the=20 mirrors, because it does contain more info per line. The best case=20 scenario will end up being maybe 20% difference at best, though from my=20 quick look at the lines it may not end up being even 10% for larger=20 pages. The current gwdg.de mirror listing line ``` 0ad-0.0.23b-lp152.1.2.x86_64.rpm=20 16-May-2020 21:10 3435288 ``` gwdg.de if it was html ``` 0ad-0.0.23b-lp152.1.2.x86_64.rpm16-May-2020 21:10 3435288=20 ``` The current download.o.o listing line: ``` 0ad-0.0.23b-lp152.1.2.x86_64.rpm16-May-2020 21:10 3.3M=20 Details ``` download.o.o if it was plaintext ``` 0ad-0.0.23b-lp152.1.2.x86_64.rpm=20 16-May-2020 21:10 3.3M Details ``` The difference in length would be minimal, mainly because all the extra=20 spaces, the best way to actually have the lines be shorter would be to=20 remove all of the extra markup from html ``` =20 0ad-0.0.23b-lp152.1.2.x86_64.rpm16-May-2020=20 21:103.3MDetails ``` Which would retain all the features and would beat plaintext in length=20 every time: though we don't have that amount of control, because it's=20 not provided by the autoindex apache2 module. If somebody wants to=20 contribute that, be my guest (you could also fix=20 https://github.com/openSUSE/download-o-o/issues/1 while you are at it) LCP [Sasi] https://lcp.world --===============4585319682946463538==-- From per@opensuse.org Sat Mar 27 18:58:18 2021 From: Per Jessen To: project@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [project] software.opensuse.org and download.opensuse.org are miserable re: MC and pegging CPU waiting to connect and waiting to load Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 19:58:04 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0282210191173267384==" --===============0282210191173267384== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Felix Miata wrote: >https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=3Dmc&project=3DopenSU= SE%3AFactory > clearly lists mc 4.8.26 availability @ >https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/x86_64= /mc-4.8.26-1.1.x86_64.rpm > which apparently doesn't exist, as also not > https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/ >=20 > If I try to fetch it, it redirects to >https://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/x86_64/mc-4.8.25-1.4.x86_6= 4.rpm > which is very much not what I'm interested in. Felix, this list is just about the poorest place to report such operational issues to.=20 --=20 Per Jessen, Z=C3=BCrich (7.1=C2=B0C) Member, openSUSE Heroes --===============0282210191173267384==-- From mrmazda@earthlink.net Sat Mar 27 19:52:43 2021 From: Felix Miata To: project@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [project] software.opensuse.org and download.opensuse.org are miserable re: MC and pegging CPU waiting to connect and waiting to load Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 15:52:26 -0400 Message-ID: <8ca884b2-e2ed-e8c6-5ad6-e2c541831c1e@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4678152731628075439==" --===============4678152731628075439== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per Jessen composed on 2021-03-27 19:58 (UTC+0100): > Felix Miata wrote: >>https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=3Dmc&project=3DopenS= USE%3AFactory >> clearly lists mc 4.8.26 availability @ >>https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/x86_6= 4/mc-4.8.26-1.1.x86_64.rpm >> which apparently doesn't exist, as also not >> https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/ >>=20 >> If I try to fetch it, it redirects to >>https://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/x86_64/mc-4.8.25-1.4.x86_= 64.rpm >> which is very much not what I'm interested in. > Felix, this list is just about the poorest place to report such > operational issues to.=20 =09 It's not entirely clear where to look to discover good or best place. I don't routinely get a sense I did the right thing when I bring such things up to heroes@, a list of apparently limited participation. admin is just a redirect= or to one of too many bug trackers. www is inactive. web doesn't exist. Maybe it's just this language bothers me: "Discussion list of the openSUSE infrastructure admins" To me it reads as not for mere users to report issues, instead being limited = to those in position to actually do anything about and/or working on issues. --=20 Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based on faith, not on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ --===============4678152731628075439==-- From per@opensuse.org Sun Mar 28 14:30:02 2021 From: Per Jessen To: project@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [project] software.opensuse.org and download.opensuse.org are miserable re: MC and pegging CPU waiting to connect and waiting to load Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 16:29:52 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8ca884b2-e2ed-e8c6-5ad6-e2c541831c1e@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7919552256277816319==" --===============7919552256277816319== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Felix Miata wrote: > Per Jessen composed on 2021-03-27 19:58 (UTC+0100): >=20 >> Felix Miata wrote: >=20 >>>https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=3Dmc&project=3Dopen= SUSE%3AFactory >>> clearly lists mc 4.8.26 availability @ >>>https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/x86_= 64/mc-4.8.26-1.1.x86_64.rpm >>> which apparently doesn't exist, as also not >>> https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/ >>>=20 >>> If I try to fetch it, it redirects to >>>https://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/x86_64/mc-4.8.25-1.4.x86= _64.rpm >>> which is very much not what I'm interested in. >=20 >> Felix, this list is just about the poorest place to report such >> operational issues to. >=20 > It's not entirely clear where to look to discover good or best place. Yeah, I agree, that is not always easy.=20 > I don't routinely get a sense I did the right thing when I bring such > things up to heroes@, a list of apparently limited participation. The Heroes list is primarily for the Heroes team, and not used an awful lot.=20 > admin is just a redirector to one of too many bug trackers.=20 Well, it is _the_ place to report issues with the openSUSE infrastructure. In this specific case, I would likely have brought=20 up the issue on a users list/forum first, and then eventually reported it to admin(a)o.o --=20 Per Jessen, Z=C3=BCrich (15.1=C2=B0C) Member, openSUSE Heroes --===============7919552256277816319==--