Jerry: I do a lot of Java development. Here's my advice. Go to www.java.sun.com and get the latest version of Java. It is really convenient to get the binary rpm. It will install itself into /usr/java so you need to be root user to install. Change your PATH variable to put /usr/java/jdk1.5.0_07/bin ahead of what's there. Then head to www.netbeans.org and get the latest daily build of NB5.5 or 6.0. Or if you want only the stable version it will be 5.0 (quite antiquated). Anyway, get the version you want. If you get 5.5 it will even install an icon on your desktop (KDE) to make things that much easier. It is nice to see NB is showing up on the YOU updates at this point albeit always behind the curve. Don't waste time on Eclipse unless you want, as they say, "Plug-in hell" before you can do anything useful. NB works "out of the box". Mono is a colossal waste of effort since it is merely a poorly done copy of Microsoft branded Java. The final download should be the Java Tutorial which you will also find at the java site above. It explains the language features, etc. And, if I were you, I'd plan never to go back to any of the others you've mentioned. There's something about Java that gets under your skin and makes you just keep scratching the itch! :) I've done COBOL, RPG and a little C/C++ in a previous life. I'm sticking with Java. Be warned, however, that Java does take resources. 1G of memory is really the min required for performance and the faster your chip the better you'll like Java -- it really needs at least a 2.0 CPU (3.2 is better) and AMD runs faster than Intel; more is always better. Have a lot of fun! Chuck Davis On 6/24/06, Jerry Westrick wrote:

Hello to all...

I'm starting a small project in JAVA, just to gather a little experience with it.

The project I picked is a FIX (http://www.fixprotocol.org) message viewer. It's comething that I think can be used, and a topic I have lots of experience with, so that I can consentrate on the JAVA.

I'm using SUSE 10.1 as development platform.

I have extensive experience in programming (COBOL, PL/I, 360 Assembler, C/C++, Smalltalk, Prolog, Perl, Python, just mention a few) and feel it's time I did a little JAVA.

So anyone have tips, and gotchas I should watch out for? Suggestions for how to get into a workbench with little effort?

Thx. for your help Jerry

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and AMD runs faster than Intel

You know it!! :) -Chris verBurg On Sat, 24 Jun 2006, Chuck Davis wrote:

Jerry:

I do a lot of Java development. Here's my advice.

Go to www.java.sun.com and get the latest version of Java. It is really convenient to get the binary rpm. It will install itself into /usr/java so you need to be root user to install. Change your PATH variable to put /usr/java/jdk1.5.0_07/bin ahead of what's there.

Then head to www.netbeans.org and get the latest daily build of NB5.5 or 6.0. Or if you want only the stable version it will be 5.0 (quite antiquated). Anyway, get the version you want. If you get 5.5 it will even install an icon on your desktop (KDE) to make things that much easier. It is nice to see NB is showing up on the YOU updates at this point albeit always behind the curve. Don't waste time on Eclipse unless you want, as they say, "Plug-in hell" before you can do anything useful. NB works "out of the box". Mono is a colossal waste of effort since it is merely a poorly done copy of Microsoft branded Java.

The final download should be the Java Tutorial which you will also find at the java site above. It explains the language features, etc. And, if I were you, I'd plan never to go back to any of the others you've mentioned. There's something about Java that gets under your skin and makes you just keep scratching the itch! :) I've done COBOL, RPG and a little C/C++ in a previous life. I'm sticking with Java. Be warned, however, that Java does take resources. 1G of memory is really the min required for performance and the faster your chip the better you'll like Java -- it really needs at least a 2.0 CPU (3.2 is better) and AMD runs faster than Intel; more is always better.

Have a lot of fun!

Chuck Davis

On 6/24/06, Jerry Westrick wrote:

...

Hello to all...

I'm starting a small project in JAVA, just to gather a little experience with it.

The project I picked is a FIX (http://www.fixprotocol.org) message viewer. It's comething that I think can be used, and a topic I have lots of experience with, so that I can consentrate on the JAVA.

I'm using SUSE 10.1 as development platform.

I have extensive experience in programming (COBOL, PL/I, 360 Assembler, C/C++, Smalltalk, Prolog, Perl, Python, just mention a few) and feel it's time I did a little JAVA.

So anyone have tips, and gotchas I should watch out for? Suggestions for how to get into a workbench with little effort?

Thx. for your help Jerry

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On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 13:21 +0200, Jerry Westrick wrote:

Hello to all...

I'm starting a small project in JAVA, just to gather a little experience with it.

The project I picked is a FIX (http://www.fixprotocol.org) message viewer. It's comething that I think can be used, and a topic I have lots of experience with, so that I can consentrate on the JAVA.

Take your time do not try to learn it in 6 weeks you will get headaches. See the book Object Oriented Programming by Steven Gilbert by the Waite group. CWSIV