On Monday 12 July 2004 11:38, Glenn Hancock wrote:

Sorry,

Its personal... I downloaded it from the net as I wanted to try it out before I spent any money. If it would take care of my problems to buy professional I'll run to the store now..

"from the net"? If you mean off newsgroups or something, then I guess you get what you pay for. If it's the Personal Edition, that's why you can't find the dev tools. Buy the Pro version... Cheers, J.C. -- John Coldrick www.axyzfx.com Axyz Animation Houdini/Renderman/Discreet 425 Adelaide St W 416-504-0425 Toronto, ON Canada jc@axyzfx.com M5V 1S4 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- My theology, briefly, is that the universe was dictated but not signed. -- Christopher Morley

On Monday 12 July 2004 17.43, Stefan Hundhammer wrote:

I am not 100% sure, but IIRC we always shipped basic development systems with the personal edition, too so a user can build packages from source.

If I recall correctly, you *never* did that with the personal edition

On Monday 12 July 2004 18:02, Glenn Hancock wrote:

No, from the net would mean from the SUSE website.  And if I purchase it how do I know its going to work any better?  I thought you only had to purchase if you wanted SUSE support services with the product?  Why do they offer something if its not going to work?  Why would you install an OS that is 90% reliant on compiling software and then not include a compiler.

Linux is _not_ 90% reliant on compiling software all by yourself. The personal edition is just that: A personal edition for people who want to _use_ Linux as a real alternative to whatever Redmod comes up with, for surfing the web without fear of virusses and dialers, for using an Office suite. The SuSE web sites state clearly what is included and what is not. It's up to each individual user to chose what best fits his needs.

My major issue here is more that I see things checked that would make me think it should be there and its not...

Try the manual way: rpm -q make It should say something like make-3.80-184 If "rpm -q" would tell you something different than YaST2's package manager, this would indeed be a major bug - but we would definitely have heard of that by now, so I have my doubts about that. Please double-check that. CU -- Stefan Hundhammer Penguin by conviction. YaST2 Development SuSE Linux AG Nuernberg, Germany

This was covered quite well in this post to the suse-kde list so I quote his procedure below: Steve Kratz to suse-kde More options Jul 12 (2 days ago) First question: Which "version" of SuSE 9.1 did you install? There's a Personal 9.1 iso that was made available on SuSE's site a couple weeks ago that is missing a ton of the development stuff. It is possible to install these by setting you install source in Yast (start Yast, Change Source of Installation, add (and move up to top of the list) ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/suse/i386/9.1 (or any of the other update mirrors for the main site address work). When going into Install and Remove Software, you should see all the "Pro" goodies. If you installed 9.1 Pro, you should have those utilities listed in Yast->Install and Remove Software. You may also want to check out the list archives for using apt4rpm with SuSE. It's not official (I'm pretty sure :) but you'll probably like that after having used yum or apt on Redhat... === as above you can install personal, change the install source, and ADD the packages you need. -Galt On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:27:11 -0400, John Coldrick wrote:

On Monday 12 July 2004 11:22, Glenn Hancock wrote:

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Can anyone tell me why SUSE 9.1 install didn't install make and the gcc compilers? Or better yet, where I can find these things so that I can get my system back up?

I just upgraded from RH9 and am having difficulty at the moment...

I assume you've installed SUSE 9.1 *Professional*? The Personal edition doesn't come with development tools.

Assuming yes, then run YaSt/Software/Install and Remove Software to install more software. You may want to go to the "Selections" portion and click on some of the uber-groups there to save you time, then go back later and use Search or Package Groups if you're missing a few more esoteric tools.

Cheers,

J.C.

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I have already done that and all development tools that are listed are showing up as checked and installed. But when I go to command prompt and type make it says bad command. I can man make and it comes up but no command... Thanks, glenn On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:30:31 +0200, Stefan Hundhammer wrote:

On Monday 12 July 2004 17:22, Glenn Hancock wrote:

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Can anyone tell me why SUSE 9.1 install didn't install make and the gcc compilers? Or better yet, where I can find these things so that I can get my system back up?

I just upgraded from RH9 and am having difficulty at the moment...

Install the "development" software selection. You can do that in the installed system: Open YaST2, software, switch to the "selections" filter view at the top left, check "development".

And while you are at it, you might want to add the "experienced user" selection for a lot of useful tools.

The rationale for not installing all that by default is that apart from developers most users simply don't need it. But of course it's there if you decide otherwise.

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No go... someone last night told me that there was an rpm called "make" but if that is true its not installed. Is this true? glenn On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:33:42 +0200, Stefan Hundhammer wrote:

On Monday 12 July 2004 17:33, Glenn Hancock wrote:

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I have already done that and all development tools that are listed are showing up as checked and installed. But when I go to command prompt and type make it says bad command.

I can man make and it comes up but no command...

Try

rehash

to tell your shell that there may be new commands to find in $PATH.

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I am 100% sure that every single checkbox under Development is checked... glenn On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:41:22 +0200, Stefan Hundhammer wrote:

On Monday 12 July 2004 17:37, Glenn Hancock wrote:

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someone last night told me that there was an rpm called "make" but if that is true its not installed. Is this true?

Yes, "make" comes in its own RPM. It is in the "C/C++ compiler and tools" selection which you also get when you select any of "KDE development", "GNOME development" or most other "development" selections.

Please check if you have it. Maybe you unchecked it in the package list at the right when you added the selection(s)?

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