From hattons@globalsymmetry.com Wed Nov 2 15:31:18 2005 From: "Steven T. Hatton" To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Fonts in SuSE's Mozilla:NotExists exists not. Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 10:31:01 -0500 Message-ID: <200511021031.02095.hattons@globalsymmetry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7879123757976796639==" --===============7879123757976796639== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know I could look in the source RPM and try to figure out the answer to this, but I'm not sure how successfully I would be. I've been having problems with MathML and Mozilla on SuSE 10. If I use the build from mozilla.org, I get a bunch of weird fonts from MathML pages. If I use the build from SuSE, I don't get the weird fonts, but I can't seen the glyph for ∄. What I really want to know is if I should file a bug report with Mozilla, and/or SuSE. fundamentals-of-mathematics.xml ∄ ( α ∈ N ) ∋ α ′ = 0 --===============7879123757976796639==-- From sh@suse.de Wed Nov 2 15:40:58 2005 From: Stefan Hundhammer To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] Fonts in SuSE's Mozilla:NotExists exists not. Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 16:40:57 +0100 Message-ID: <200511021640.57632.sh@suse.de> In-Reply-To: <200511021031.02095.hattons@globalsymmetry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2801611444680412540==" --===============2801611444680412540== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wednesday 02 November 2005 16:31, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > What I really want to know is if I should file a bug report > with Mozilla, and/or SuSE. Even though this is not really the appropriate list for that kind of thing (since it has nothing to do with programming), to cut this short: Please file a bug report to our (the SuSE / Novell) Bugzilla. If our Mozilla maintainer determines this is really a bug upstream, he should / will report this upstream. CU -- Stefan Hundhammer Penguin by conviction. YaST2 Development SUSE Linux Products GmbH Nuernberg, Germany --===============2801611444680412540==-- From hattons@globalsymmetry.com Thu Nov 3 20:47:40 2005 From: "Steven T. Hatton" To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] Fonts in SuSE's Mozilla:NotExists exists not. Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 14:47:27 -0500 Message-ID: <200511031447.27213.hattons@globalsymmetry.com> In-Reply-To: <200511021640.57632.sh@suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2019970549891818480==" --===============2019970549891818480== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wednesday 02 November 2005 10:40 am, Stefan Hundhammer wrote: > On Wednesday 02 November 2005 16:31, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > What I really want to know is if I should file a bug report > > with Mozilla, and/or SuSE. > > Even though this is not really the appropriate list for that kind of thing > (since it has nothing to do with programming), to cut this short: Please > file a bug report to our (the SuSE / Novell) Bugzilla. If our Mozilla > maintainer determines this is really a bug upstream, he should / will > report this upstream. Yes, I know this isn't the right place to post. The problem is, when I poste= d=20 to the right place I did not receive a response. When I posted here I=20 received a useful reply. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D132047= =20 Thanks. Steven --===============2019970549891818480==-- From gaf@blu.org Wed Nov 9 16:19:52 2005 From: Jerry Feldman To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: A couple of questions on nptl and lib/tls Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:17:26 -0500 Message-ID: <200511091117.26499.gaf@blu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4773030028732982456==" --===============4773030028732982456== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit AFAIK, when building a threaded app currently to get the full NPTL you need to specify -I/usr/include/nptl (to get the NPTL header files) and -L/usr/lib/nptl (to link with the NPTL libraries). With the 2.6 kernel when building a normal threaded app, you get Linux Threads by default, but since some NPTL features are implemented in the kernel, you get some benefit. We had some questions about /lib/tls. What I have been able to find out is that this contains the libraries that support Thread Local Storage for NPTL. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 --===============4773030028732982456==-- From cjtaylor_mail-suse@yahoo.com Wed Nov 9 16:39:26 2005 From: cjtaylor_mail-suse@yahoo.com To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: socket examples Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 08:39:09 -0800 Message-ID: <20051109163909.80067.qmail@web30913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5630385507430625814==" --===============5630385507430625814== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are there any examples out there for socket programing? I need to write a test app that connects to s specified IP and port to send and receive ASCII strings. I am not sure which libraries to use or the API. Thanks. Chris Taylor --===============5630385507430625814==-- From graegerts@gmail.com Wed Nov 9 16:49:49 2005 From: Steve Graegert To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] socket examples Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:49:47 +0100 Message-ID: <6a00c8d50511090849i197a798bn18755970ba493d6d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20051109163909.80067.qmail@web30913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2206799395278731599==" --===============2206799395278731599== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/9/05, cjtaylor_mail-suse(a)yahoo.com w= rote: > Are there any examples out there for socket > programing? I need to write a test app that connects > to s specified IP and port to send and receive ASCII > strings. I am not sure which libraries to use or the > API. Thanks. I've attached two examples, that exchange ASCII data. Hope they give you an idea how things work. They should compile and work as expected (haven't touched them for years until now). The files errors.c and header.h are needed for error handling among other things and are included for completeness. 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boundary="===============1159432721667552659==" --===============1159432721667552659== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wednesday 09 November 2005 11:39 am, cjtaylor_mail-suse(a)yahoo.com wrote: > Are there any examples out there for socket > programing? I need to write a test app that connects > to s specified IP and port to send and receive ASCII > strings. I am not sure which libraries to use or the > API. I have some code laying around. I'll send it to you directly. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 --===============1159432721667552659==-- From cjtaylor_mail-suse@yahoo.com Wed Nov 9 16:57:21 2005 From: cjtaylor_mail-suse@yahoo.com To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] socket examples Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 08:57:16 -0800 Message-ID: <20051109165716.19703.qmail@web30910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <6a00c8d50511090849i197a798bn18755970ba493d6d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6233090388986858571==" --===============6233090388986858571== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --- Steve Graegert wrote: > I've attached two examples, that exchange ASCII > data. Hope they give > you an idea how things work. They should compile > and work as expected > (haven't touched them for years until now). The > files errors.c and > header.h are needed for error handling among other > things and are > included for completeness. If you have questions, > feel free to drop > me a line. > > \Steve Thanks Steve. That should help a lot. Chris --===============6233090388986858571==-- From archer@eskimo.com Wed Nov 9 17:02:09 2005 From: "Curt, WE7U" To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] socket examples Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 09:02:01 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20051109163909.80067.qmail@web30913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1211646363666817125==" --===============1211646363666817125== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 cjtaylor_mail-suse(a)yahoo.com wrote: > Are there any examples out there for socket > programing? I need to write a test app that connects > to s specified IP and port to send and receive ASCII > strings. I am not sure which libraries to use or the > API. Thanks. If you REALLY want to know how to do it and why, I recommend very highly the Stevens book "Unix Network Programming", Volume 1. I have that and Volume 2, plus his "Advanced Programming in the UNIX Environment". I refer to them a lot. -- Curt, WE7U. APRS Client Comparisons: http://www.eskimo.com/~archer "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U "The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!" --===============1211646363666817125==-- From synthetoonz@bellsouth.net Wed Nov 9 17:10:04 2005 From: Synthetic Cartoonz To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] socket examples Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 12:09:56 -0500 Message-ID: <200511091209.56740.synthetoonz@bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: <20051109163909.80067.qmail@web30913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9198973880393234943==" --===============9198973880393234943== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wednesday 09 November 2005 11:39, cjtaylor_mail-suse(a)yahoo.com wrote: > Are there any examples out there for socket > programing? I need to write a test app that connects > to s specified IP and port to send and receive ASCII > strings. I am not sure which libraries to use or the > API. Thanks. This guy has a nice tutorial that explains it from the ground up: http://beej.us/guide/bgnet/ --===============9198973880393234943==-- From jgeorger@ll.mit.edu Wed Nov 9 18:14:07 2005 From: Joe Georger To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] socket examples Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 13:13:47 -0500 Message-ID: <43723C5B.8020808@ll.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2658891850714722068==" --===============2658891850714722068== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Same here. Best books I own. Curt, WE7U wrote: > If you REALLY want to know how to do it and why, I recommend very > highly the Stevens book "Unix Network Programming", Volume 1. I > have that and Volume 2, plus his "Advanced Programming in the UNIX > Environment". I refer to them a lot. > > -- > Curt, WE7U. APRS Client Comparisons: http://www.eskimo.com/~archer > "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown > "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U > "The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!" > > --===============2658891850714722068==-- From gaf@blu.org Wed Nov 9 18:46:11 2005 From: Jerry Feldman To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] socket examples Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 13:44:52 -0500 Message-ID: <200511091344.52394.gaf@blu.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0527856168817110966==" --===============0527856168817110966== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wednesday 09 November 2005 12:02 pm, Curt, WE7U wrote: > If you REALLY want to know how to do it and why, I recommend very > highly the Stevens book "Unix Network Programming", Volume 1.  I > have that and Volume 2, plus his "Advanced Programming in the UNIX > Environment".  I refer to them a lot. Those are excellent books. While I never owned them, I always had them available at work. They are the bible of socket programming and H. Richard Stevens' death in 1999 was a real blow to the industry. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 --===============0527856168817110966==-- From andjoh@rydsbo.net Wed Nov 9 22:24:31 2005 From: Anders Johansson To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] socket examples Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 23:25:59 +0100 Message-ID: <200511092326.00063.andjoh@rydsbo.net> In-Reply-To: <20051109163909.80067.qmail@web30913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8399001976645399352==" --===============8399001976645399352== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wednesday 09 November 2005 17:39, cjtaylor_mail-suse(a)yahoo.com wrote: > Are there any examples out there for socket > programing? I need to write a test app that connects > to s specified IP and port to send and receive ASCII > strings. I am not sure which libraries to use or the > API. Thanks. If you're learning programming, go for it. But if you really just need to tes= t=20 something, there is netcat, which already does everything you need --===============8399001976645399352==-- From hattons@globalsymmetry.com Thu Nov 17 19:11:31 2005 From: "Steven T. Hatton" To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: KSnuffle Source? Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:11:35 -0500 Message-ID: <200511171411.35649.hattons@globalsymmetry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6600051456263774528==" --===============6600051456263774528== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm trying to find source code for an ancient and forgotten gem of the early KDEs. All the sites that I've found point to dead links. Andybody know where I can find the source? Steven --===============6600051456263774528==-- From graegerts@gmail.com Thu Nov 17 20:20:40 2005 From: Steve Graegert To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SLE] KSnuffle Source? Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:20:38 +0100 Message-ID: <6a00c8d50511171220p4f2b824eqefe068c3067903b9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200511171411.35649.hattons@globalsymmetry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6858526655506427887==" --===============6858526655506427887== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 11/17/05, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > I'm trying to find source code for an ancient and forgotten gem of the early > KDEs. All the sites that I've found point to dead links. Andybody know > where I can find the source? Is this http://linux.tucows.easynet.nl/files/ksnuffle-2.2.tgz what you are looking for? \Steve -- Steve Graegert Software Consultant {C/C++ && Java && .NET} Office: +49 9131 7123988 Mobile: +49 1520 9289212 --===============6858526655506427887==-- From hattons@globalsymmetry.com Sat Nov 19 07:37:31 2005 From: "Steven T. Hatton" To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: C++ Formalism Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 02:37:42 -0500 Message-ID: <200511190237.42440.hattons@globalsymmetry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1287632264255301711==" --===============1287632264255301711== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "In this paper, we develop a general formalism for describing the C++ programming language, and regular enough to cope with proposed extensions (such as concepts) for C++0x that affect its type system. Concepts are a mechanism for checking template arguments currently being developed to help cope with the massive use of templates in modern C++. The main challenges in developing a formalism for C++ are scoping, overriding, overloading, templates, specialization, and the C heritage exposed in the built-in types. Here, we primarily focus on templates and overloading." http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2005/n1885.pdf http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2005/n1886.pdf, --===============1287632264255301711==-- From graegerts@gmail.com Sat Nov 19 19:14:05 2005 From: Steve Graegert To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] C++ Formalism Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 20:14:03 +0100 Message-ID: <6a00c8d50511191114v1037485jf6439617aa06f9ec@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200511190237.42440.hattons@globalsymmetry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6550134522334149096==" --===============6550134522334149096== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 11/19/05, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > "In this paper, we develop a general formalism for describing > the C++ programming language, and regular enough to cope > with proposed extensions (such as concepts) for C++0x that affect > its type system. Concepts are a mechanism for checking > template arguments currently being developed to help cope > with the massive use of templates in modern C++. The main > challenges in developing a formalism for C++ are scoping, > overriding, overloading, templates, specialization, and the C > heritage exposed in the built-in types. Here, we primarily > focus on templates and overloading." > > http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2005/n1885.pdf > > http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2005/n1886.pdf, Steven, Do you expect from the community to comment on that? Since these proposals, among others concerning C++0x, are still under active discussion and only experimental compilers in academic environments have partially implemented some similar techniques, primarily to prove that complete typed ASTs can be created with such a formalism (although C++ is only one example here), it is of no interest for this list. I think that comp.lang.c++ and comp.compilers are better places to get into discussions on this issue (if that is what you wanted). \Steve -- Steve Graegert Software Consultant {C/C++ && Java && .NET} Office: +49 9131 7123988 Mobile: +49 1520 9289212 --===============6550134522334149096==-- From rschulz@sonic.net Sat Nov 19 19:35:14 2005 From: Randall R Schulz To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] C++ Formalism Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 11:35:09 -0800 Message-ID: <200511191135.09894.rschulz@sonic.net> In-Reply-To: <6a00c8d50511191114v1037485jf6439617aa06f9ec@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0972639357662669795==" --===============0972639357662669795== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve, On Saturday 19 November 2005 11:14, Steve Graegert wrote: > On 11/19/05, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > ... > > > > http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2005/n1885.pdf > > http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2005/n1886.pdf, > > Steven, > > Do you expect from the community to comment on that? Since these > proposals, among others concerning C++0x, are still under active > discussion and only experimental compilers in academic environments > have partially implemented some similar techniques, primarily to > prove that complete typed ASTs can be created with such a formalism > (although C++ is only one example here), it is of no interest for > this list. I think that comp.lang.c++ and comp.compilers are better > places to get into discussions on this issue (if that is what you > wanted). Well, I for one, as someone interested in formal, mathematical logic and its relationship to programming and its possible application to programming languages and tools, appreciated this pointer. > Steve Graegert Randall Schulz --===============0972639357662669795==-- From graegerts@gmail.com Sat Nov 19 20:02:38 2005 From: Steve Graegert To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] C++ Formalism Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:02:36 +0100 Message-ID: <6a00c8d50511191202n5ae16a8bw3e37e64574fdf841@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200511191135.09894.rschulz@sonic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1818662214388186718==" --===============1818662214388186718== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 11/19/05, Randall R Schulz wrote: > Steve, > > On Saturday 19 November 2005 11:14, Steve Graegert wrote: > > On 11/19/05, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > > ... > > > > > > http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2005/n1885.pdf > > > http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2005/n1886.pdf, > > > > Steven, > > > > Do you expect from the community to comment on that? Since these > > proposals, among others concerning C++0x, are still under active > > discussion and only experimental compilers in academic environments > > have partially implemented some similar techniques, primarily to > > prove that complete typed ASTs can be created with such a formalism > > (although C++ is only one example here), it is of no interest for > > this list. I think that comp.lang.c++ and comp.compilers are better > > places to get into discussions on this issue (if that is what you > > wanted). > > Well, I for one, as someone interested in formal, mathematical logic and > its relationship to programming and its possible application to > programming languages and tools, appreciated this pointer. So have I and your point is indeed valid. There are lots of other mailing lists and newsgroups specifically for discussing advanced compiler techniques, algorithmic approaches to languages and the like. I am willing to discuss general programming topics and provide solutions to certain problems on this list but I think the OP is to far away from the purpose of suse-programming-e. \Steve -- Steve Graegert Software Consultant {C/C++ && Java && .NET} Office: +49 9131 7123988 Mobile: +49 1520 9289212 --===============1818662214388186718==-- From hattons@globalsymmetry.com Sat Nov 19 22:20:24 2005 From: "Steven T. Hatton" To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] C++ Formalism Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 17:20:29 -0500 Message-ID: <200511191720.30010.hattons@globalsymmetry.com> In-Reply-To: <6a00c8d50511191202n5ae16a8bw3e37e64574fdf841@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2188759337889240786==" --===============2188759337889240786== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Saturday 19 November 2005 03:02 pm, Steve Graegert wrote: > So have I and your point is indeed valid. There are lots of other > mailing lists and newsgroups specifically for discussing advanced > compiler techniques, algorithmic approaches to languages and the like. > I am willing to discuss general programming topics and provide > solutions to certain problems on this list but I think the OP is to > far away from the purpose of suse-programming-e. > > \Steve Actually, I was just passing the information along. I'm too busy with Mathematica right now to focus on these papers. I did have an extensive discussion about matters related to this topic on comp.lang.c++.moderated several months ago. news://Message-ID: <8b-dndN94_ni9EzfRVn-uQ(a)speakeasy.net> Steven --===============2188759337889240786==-- From graegerts@gmail.com Sat Nov 19 23:03:35 2005 From: Steve Graegert To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] C++ Formalism Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 00:03:33 +0100 Message-ID: <6a00c8d50511191503p5035985bq90d24fa5dd6565b0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200511191720.30010.hattons@globalsymmetry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2927522764255043804==" --===============2927522764255043804== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 11/19/05, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > On Saturday 19 November 2005 03:02 pm, Steve Graegert wrote: > > > So have I and your point is indeed valid. There are lots of other > > mailing lists and newsgroups specifically for discussing advanced > > compiler techniques, algorithmic approaches to languages and the like. > > I am willing to discuss general programming topics and provide > > solutions to certain problems on this list but I think the OP is to > > far away from the purpose of suse-programming-e. > > > > \Steve > Actually, I was just passing the information along. I'm too busy with > Mathematica right now to focus on these papers. I did have an extensive > discussion about matters related to this topic on comp.lang.c++.moderated > several months ago. Ok, did not know what to do with your post. Thought you would like this topic to be discussed here, which I think would be inappropriate on this list. \Steve -- Steve Graegert Software Consultant {C/C++ && Java && .NET} Office: +49 9131 7123988 Mobile: +49 1520 9289212 --===============2927522764255043804==-- From hattons@globalsymmetry.com Sun Nov 20 07:43:09 2005 From: "Steven T. Hatton" To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] C++ Formalism Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 02:43:17 -0500 Message-ID: <200511200243.18136.hattons@globalsymmetry.com> In-Reply-To: <6a00c8d50511191503p5035985bq90d24fa5dd6565b0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7958872042978425985==" --===============7958872042978425985== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Saturday 19 November 2005 06:03 pm, Steve Graegert wrote: > On 11/19/05, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > Actually, I was just passing the information along. I'm too busy with > > Mathematica right now to focus on these papers. I did have an extensive > > discussion about matters related to this topic on comp.lang.c++.moderated > > several months ago. > > Ok, did not know what to do with your post. Thought you would like > this topic to be discussed here, which I think would be inappropriate > on this list. > > \Steve I don't believe it would be inappropriate. It would, however, be unlikely. Skimming the papers, and knowing what they imply is probably of value for anybody serious about C++ programming. Though the formalism is new, the concepts work is not. There are some support libraries for this on the Boost site. Interestingly, I learned about the papers from a post on the /moderated/ Mathematica newsgroup/mailing list where the subject is arguably far less topical than it is here. Since this list tends to be fairly sleepy, I will contend that topicality is defined by the participant (within reason). Steven --===============7958872042978425985==-- From me@chaitanyachalasani.com Mon Nov 21 07:34:43 2005 From: Chaitanya Chalasani To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Problem using occi libraries in SuSE 10 gcc 4.0 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:04:35 +0530 Message-ID: <200511211304.35767.me@chaitanyachalasani.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6420875979244045918==" --===============6420875979244045918== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am using SuSE 10 with gcc-4.0. I am building an application with oracle -=20 occi library. The occi library was linked with libstdc++.so.5 and my gcc 4.0 = is linking the program with libstdc++.so.6. The compilation and linking is ok= =20 but at runtime it gives me exception in occi resultset getString funtion. A search on google says that we need link the application with libstdc++.so.5= .=20 Can u use gcc-4.0 to link the application with libstdc++.so.5?( The=20 libstdc++.so.5 is available in SuSE 10)=20 or do we need to install gcc-3.2 in SuSE 10. Please help me out. Thankyou very much in advance. --===============6420875979244045918==-- From philipp.thomas@t-link.de Mon Nov 21 08:30:04 2005 From: Philipp Thomas To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] Problem using occi libraries in SuSE 10 gcc 4.0 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:29:48 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200511211304.35767.me@chaitanyachalasani.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4037020713515768029==" --===============4037020713515768029== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:04:35 +0530, Chaitanya Chalasani wrote: >Can u use gcc-4.0 to link the application with libstdc++.so.5?( The >libstdc++.so.5 is available in SuSE 10) You can't even compile it with gcc 4.0 as the C++ ABI changed. > or do we need to install gcc-3.2 in SuSE 10. Exactly. You need to compile and link your application with that older version of gcc. Philipp --===============4037020713515768029==-- From aj@suse.de Mon Nov 21 09:00:06 2005 From: Andreas Jaeger To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] Problem using occi libraries in SuSE 10 gcc 4.0 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:00:01 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200511211304.35767.me@chaitanyachalasani.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3131663077436321055==" --===============3131663077436321055== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chaitanya Chalasani writes: > Hi, > > I am using SuSE 10 with gcc-4.0. I am building an application with oracle -= =20 > occi library. The occi library was linked with libstdc++.so.5 and my gcc 4.= 0=20 > is linking the program with libstdc++.so.6. The compilation and linking is = ok=20 > but at runtime it gives me exception in occi resultset getString funtion. > > A search on google says that we need link the application with libstdc++.so= .5.=20 > Can u use gcc-4.0 to link the application with libstdc++.so.5?( The=20 > libstdc++.so.5 is available in SuSE 10)=20 No, this is not possible. > or do we need to install gcc-3.2 in SuSE 10. You need to use gcc 3.2, Andreas --=20 Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 N=C3=BCrnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint =3D 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 --===============3131663077436321055== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.sig" MIME-Version: 1.0 LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0KVmVyc2lvbjogR251UEcgdjEuNC4yIChHTlUv TGludXgpCgppRDhEQlFCRGdZeVJPSnBXUE1KeW9TWVJBaTkzQUo0aTY5SmlKM3JiUHZWcC8yK0pX amJHMTk2Wk9RQ2VMQlRxClI2Yk05amFkR1BJL2NyWEUxY0hCNzA0PQo9MTJpeAotLS0tLUVORCBQ R1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0= --===============3131663077436321055==-- From flyli3415@gmail.com Mon Nov 21 21:37:24 2005 From: lof To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: any body can send me some .spec files so I can build my own package? Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 05:37:10 +0800 Message-ID: <200511220537.10668.flyli3415@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1132607473.1962.ezmlm@suse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4949125180618057782==" --===============4949125180618057782== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need gvim and python-wxGTK ,but they are not shiped in oss version. so I downloaded the sources from their site. I want to build the rpm file myself ,so could any one send me the spec files if you have any ? or tell me where to get the rpm package? Thank you! --===============4949125180618057782==-- From andjoh@rydsbo.net Tue Nov 22 23:43:55 2005 From: Anders Johansson To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] Problem using occi libraries in SuSE 10 gcc 4.0 Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 00:47:23 +0100 Message-ID: <200511230047.23988.andjoh@rydsbo.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8609490543356836788==" --===============8609490543356836788== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Monday 21 November 2005 10:00, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > Chaitanya Chalasani writes: > > Hi, > > > > I am using SuSE 10 with gcc-4.0. I am building an application with oracle > > - occi library. The occi library was linked with libstdc++.so.5 and my > > gcc 4.0 is linking the program with libstdc++.so.6. The compilation and > > linking is ok but at runtime it gives me exception in occi resultset > > getString funtion. > > > > A search on google says that we need link the application with > > libstdc++.so.5. Can u use gcc-4.0 to link the application with > > libstdc++.so.5?( The libstdc++.so.5 is available in SuSE 10) > > No, this is not possible. > > > or do we need to install gcc-3.2 in SuSE 10. > > You need to use gcc 3.2, Or 3.3. I believe the gcc project managed to keep a stable abi for all versions using libstdc++.so.5 --===============8609490543356836788==-- From roger@opq.se Fri Nov 25 13:30:33 2005 From: Roger Oberholtzer To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: SUSE 10 and two versions of gcc Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:30:20 +0100 Message-ID: <1132925420.5606.73.camel@acme.pacific> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4743737126027749091==" --===============4743737126027749091== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have need of both the gcc that comes with SUSE 10 (4.0.2) and a 3.4.x version of gcc as well. Is it possible to have both installed at the same time? I would guess that things like include files would have to be sorted. But does anyone know of a general guide for doing this sort of thing? The SUSE 10 one would be the default that should be invoked as usual. The gcc 3.4 could require, say, environment variables to be set. The reason for this is I want to compile kernel modules for some other system, and it seems that it is not happy if they are compiled with SUSE's 4.x gcc. The kernel itself was compiled with 3.4.4. I can chroot to an environment that will run gcc 3.4.4, but I would prefer to just run the 3.4 compiler from a Makefile in SUSE 10.0. Make sense? -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems AB --===============4743737126027749091==-- From gaf@blu.org Fri Nov 25 13:55:52 2005 From: Jerry Feldman To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] SUSE 10 and two versions of gcc Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 08:55:47 -0500 Message-ID: <20051125085547.6b5fcdc7@gaf.blu.org> In-Reply-To: <1132925420.5606.73.camel@acme.pacific> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0128463362908999360==" --===============0128463362908999360== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:30:20 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > I have need of both the gcc that comes with SUSE 10 (4.0.2) and a 3.4.x > version of gcc as well. Is it possible to have both installed at the > same time? I would guess that things like include files would have to be > sorted. But does anyone know of a general guide for doing this sort of > thing? The SUSE 10 one would be the default that should be invoked as > usual. The gcc 3.4 could require, say, environment variables to be set. > > The reason for this is I want to compile kernel modules for some other > system, and it seems that it is not happy if they are compiled with > SUSE's 4.x gcc. The kernel itself was compiled with 3.4.4. I can chroot > to an environment that will run gcc 3.4.4, but I would prefer to just > run the 3.4 compiler from a Makefile in SUSE 10.0. Make sense? Yes. I had to do that a while back on a SLES9 system because I had to build GNU Pascal and that required a specific version of GCC to be installed. Because the system was going to be used at an Intel Development Forum, the base system had to be vanilla SLES9. Note that the older libraries are currently installed. The C++ header files are in /usr/include/c++/ Where the version on SuSE 10 is 4.0.2. When you install gcc 3.4.4 the headers will /usr/include/c++/3.4.4/ You will need to take a bit of care when compiling and set the CXX, CC, CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS environment variables. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 --===============0128463362908999360== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" MIME-Version: 1.0 LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0KVmVyc2lvbjogR251UEcgdjEuNC4yIChHTlUv TGludXgpCgppRDhEQlFGRGh4Zmord0ErMWNVR0hxa1JBdUQ4QUpzRkFwc3RXUVQ5UUhYemhTamJH NzFqMlluRVF3Q2ZYVjg5ClpFMEwrbnhmV0J0K3NZa2xjaXFPZEtRPQo9MndoUgotLS0tLUVORCBQ R1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0K --===============0128463362908999360==-- From gracciu@xystum.it Fri Nov 25 15:02:40 2005 From: Giovanni Racciu To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] SUSE 10 and two versions of gcc Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 16:02:28 +0100 Message-ID: <43872784.6090909@xystum.it> In-Reply-To: <1132925420.5606.73.camel@acme.pacific> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6090996735674229630==" --===============6090996735674229630== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > I have need of both the gcc that comes with SUSE 10 (4.0.2) and a 3.4.x > version of gcc as well. Is it possible to have both installed at the > same time? I would guess that things like include files would have to be > sorted. But does anyone know of a general guide for doing this sort of > thing? The SUSE 10 one would be the default that should be invoked as > usual. The gcc 3.4 could require, say, environment variables to be set. > > The reason for this is I want to compile kernel modules for some other > system, and it seems that it is not happy if they are compiled with > SUSE's 4.x gcc. The kernel itself was compiled with 3.4.4. I can chroot > to an environment that will run gcc 3.4.4, but I would prefer to just > run the 3.4 compiler from a Makefile in SUSE 10.0. Make sense? > This howto covers the installation and use of an additional compiler on suse10: http://www.opensuse.org/Qemu_with_kqemu_kernel_module_support Ciao Giovanni --===============6090996735674229630==-- From roger@opq.se Fri Nov 25 15:13:54 2005 From: Roger Oberholtzer To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] SUSE 10 and two versions of gcc Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 16:13:51 +0100 Message-ID: <1132931631.5606.83.camel@acme.pacific> In-Reply-To: <43872784.6090909@xystum.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8077317545985774217==" --===============8077317545985774217== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 16:02 +0100, Giovanni Racciu wrote: > This howto covers the installation and use of an additional compiler on > suse10: > > http://www.opensuse.org/Qemu_with_kqemu_kernel_module_support I guess the magic is in the configure statement. I will give is a try. Thanks. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems AB --===============8077317545985774217==-- From philipp.thomas@t-link.de Fri Nov 25 21:55:00 2005 From: Philipp Thomas To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] SUSE 10 and two versions of gcc Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 22:54:44 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1132925420.5606.73.camel@acme.pacific> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1937128006170563961==" --===============1937128006170563961== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:30:20 +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: >I have need of both the gcc that comes with SUSE 10 (4.0.2) and a 3.4.x >version of gcc as well. Is it possible to have both installed at the >same time? Yes. Just compile (and install) gcc 3.4.x with a different prefix like /opt/gcc34 and remove libgcc_s.so from gcc 3.4 as there should only be one version present in the system and libgcc_s is downwards compatible. Philipp --===============1937128006170563961==-- From vikasx.aggarwal@intel.com Mon Nov 28 17:58:50 2005 From: "Aggarwal, VikasX" To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: iscsi_boot in /sbin/mkinitrd of SLES9 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 09:40:05 -0800 Message-ID: <69F69FD5FD4A9843ACBF7CE9B7830B4A068AA452@orsmsx408> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2461805419202069322==" --===============2461805419202069322== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, I am working on for SLES9 installation to iSCSI disk and then booting from it. It is already working for RHEL4 linux. My procedure(for iscsi installation and boot-from iscsi-disk) required changes to "mkinitrd" for RHEL4 linux. While going through "/sbin/mkinitrd" of SLES9, i found "iscsi_boot" variable inside it. Now i wonder if i can find a doucment to teach myself to use this already-existing feature of SLES9 to enable iscsi boot. I installed on iSCSi disk. As i added the iscsi.ko and iscsid-daemon and related configuration files via driver-update-diskettes prepared using "dkms mkdriverdisk ....". But so far i had not been able to understand how to enable the iscsi boot for SLES9 in initrd. My NIC already has some iscsi expansion ROM which can get the iscsi_boot drive from DHCP server and it will scsi-read the grub-loader and initrd+vmlinuz. After that the iscsi-stack inside the initrd will take-over. From SUSE gurus i am trying to find out "how can I enable the alread-existing feature of iscsi_boot in SLES9 mkinitrd ?". regards -vikas aggarwal --===============2461805419202069322==-- From tnikkila@cc.hut.fi Wed Nov 30 10:24:20 2005 From: Teemu =?utf-8?q?Nikkil=C3=A4?= To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: tputs not found Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:23:00 +0200 Message-ID: <200511301223.01174.tnikkila@cc.hut.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6089123052942877335==" --===============6089123052942877335== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm fairly new to programming in SuSE Linux. At first I'm trying to compile=20 speech_tools from Festival under SuSE 9.3, but ./configure fails with: checking for tputs in -ltermcap... (cached) no checking for tputs in -lncurses... (cached) no I have ncurses_devel installed and the libs are linked to /usr/lib: /usr/lib/libcurses.so.1 /usr/lib/libcurses.so.1.0.0 /usr/lib/libtermcap.so.2 /usr/lib/libtermcap.so.2.0.8 Should tputs() be in those libs (and in general, how can I check the function= s=20 in a library)? Best Regerds, Teemu --===============6089123052942877335==-- From andjoh@rydsbo.net Wed Nov 30 21:19:41 2005 From: Anders Johansson To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] tputs not found Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:19:48 +0100 Message-ID: <200511302219.48707.andjoh@rydsbo.net> In-Reply-To: <200511301223.01174.tnikkila@cc.hut.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7795974336842317661==" --===============7795974336842317661== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wednesday 30 November 2005 11:23, Teemu Nikkilä wrote: > Hi, > > I'm fairly new to programming in SuSE Linux. At first I'm trying to compile > speech_tools from Festival under SuSE 9.3, but ./configure fails with: > > checking for tputs in -ltermcap... (cached) no > checking for tputs in -lncurses... (cached) no It should be in /usr/lib/libncurses, so this second line should say 'yes'. There are two possibilities: the first one is that it says (cached). If you installed ncurses after you already ran configure once, the answer will be cached from that run, so it won't look again. Delete the file config.cache from the compile directory to get around this The second is that it really fails because of something completely different, but never tells you. Check the config.log file to get the real error message from its test --===============7795974336842317661==-- From tnikkila@cc.hut.fi Wed Nov 30 21:52:12 2005 From: Teemu Nikkila To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] tputs not found Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 23:53:03 +0200 Message-ID: <200511302353.04288.tnikkila@cc.hut.fi> In-Reply-To: <200511302219.48707.andjoh@rydsbo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5431202568577860439==" --===============5431202568577860439== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anders Johansson kirjoitti viestiss=C3=A4=C3=A4n (l=C3=A4hetysaika keskiviikk= o 30 marraskuu=20 2005 23:19): > > checking for tputs in -lncurses... (cached) no > > It should be in /usr/lib/libncurses, so this second line should say 'yes'. > There are two possibilities: the first one is that it says (cached). If you > installed ncurses after you already ran configure once, the answer will be > cached from that run, so it won't look again. Delete the file config.cache > from the compile directory to get around this Must be this but I can't test it right now. I thought the "cached"=20 means /etc/ld.so.cache, where libncurses should be just fine. My bad, thanks = for the answer. > > The second is that it really fails because of something completely > different, but never tells you. Check the config.log file to get the real > error message from its test I hope I don't have to. Cheers, Teemu --===============5431202568577860439==-- From gaf@blu.org Wed Nov 30 22:14:24 2005 From: Jerry Feldman To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] tputs not found Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:13:00 -0500 Message-ID: <200511301713.00441.gaf@blu.org> In-Reply-To: <200511302353.04288.tnikkila@cc.hut.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2918722969576969937==" --===============2918722969576969937== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wednesday 30 November 2005 4:53 pm, Teemu Nikkila wrote: > Must be this but I can't test it right now. I thought the "cached" > means /etc/ld.so.cache, where libncurses should be just fine. My bad, > thanks for the answer. I did an nm on libncurses and tputs is definitely in the library. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 --===============2918722969576969937==-- From philipp.thomas@t-link.de Wed Nov 30 23:10:26 2005 From: Philipp Thomas To: programming@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [suse-programming-e] tputs not found Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 00:10:20 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200511302219.48707.andjoh@rydsbo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8989636114413672536==" --===============8989636114413672536== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:19:48 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: >There are two possibilities: No, there are three :) The third option is that a package wrongly packages config.cache. I just looked and speech_tools does not, but I've seen enough packages that wrongly do so. Philipp --===============8989636114413672536==--