I have noticed that when I boot up my Mac and run Norton, it shows a lot of 'Major Errors' with my HFS volume that I use to share files with Linux. I am wondering if these really are 'major errors' in Linux, or if it is just a Norton quirk. Even with the errors, I seem to be able to use the HFS volumes with no problems in Linux. thanks Joss -- http://www.josswinn.org
Joss Winn wrote:
I have noticed that when I boot up my Mac and run Norton, it shows a lot of 'Major Errors' with my HFS volume that I use to share files with Linux. I am wondering if these really are 'major errors' in Linux, or if it is just a Norton quirk. Even with the errors, I seem to be able to use the HFS volumes with no problems in Linux.
thanks Joss -- http://www.josswinn.org
What kind of errors? Norton's "serious" errors often are very, very minor (if errors at all)... And what version (OS and Norton)? regards nicola
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 05:45:21PM +0200, nicola moretti wrote:
Joss Winn wrote:
I have noticed that when I boot up my Mac and run Norton, it shows a lot of 'Major Errors' with my HFS volume that I use to share files with Linux. I am wondering if these really are 'major errors' in Linux, or if it is just a Norton quirk. Even with the errors, I seem to be able to use the HFS volumes with no problems in Linux.
thanks Joss -- http://www.josswinn.org
What kind of errors? Norton's "serious" errors often are very, very minor (if errors at all)... And what version (OS and Norton)?
regards nicola
Hi Nicola, Sorry I can't reproduce the errors immediately because I have just fixed them, but I am using Norton 5.x and Mac OS 9.1 thank you joss -- http://www.josswinn.org
Hi I bought a Farallon 10/100 ethernet card for my PowerCenter 150 (w/G3 card) this weekend. It works great on the mac side, but doesnt connect on the linux side. I know the card is being recognized as eth1, but when I tried different routing combinations, I still could not get a connection. I am using the 2.2.16 kernel and Suse 7.0. Cheers MARCUS
hello marcus, in fact it seems to be very difficult to get a non-apple ethernet device working under ppclinux... a few weeks ago i tried to to this on both my 8200/120 (was my server) an my beloved g4; i tried to get these cards running: * SMC EtherPower II (aka 9432TX, on the x86 BSDs and Linux it runs VERY fine using the 'EPIC 100' driver) * Farallon with DEC 'Tulip' Chepset (i.e. the 2104x) the 8200 has 64 meg, the g4 has 2048meg RAM. the onboard eth's of both machines work fine (that's the point: the 10mbit of the 8200 is not very useful for servers... ;-) trying to address the NICs led to i) nothing (NIC was'nt addressable, no errors were shown) ii) a hanging machine (no kernel panic, no errors; machine halted, had to be resetted by the button...) after posting this to several lists (not also SuSE but debian etc.) there were plenty replies of people also trying to get such a device to work but with little or no success. no solution for this 'til now, i guess (so now my sun play server :-( greetz, timo
Hi
I bought a Farallon 10/100 ethernet card for my PowerCenter 150 (w/G3 card) this weekend. It works great on the mac side, but doesnt connect on the linux side.
I know the card is being recognized as eth1, but when I tried different routing combinations, I still could not get a connection. I am using the 2.2.16 kernel and Suse 7.0.
Cheers
MARCUS
Hmm :-/ So you think it's impossible to get it to work? :-( Where do I find an apple ethernet pci device :-) This card was a pretty good deal and I'd hate to have to take it back :-/ do you think there is/will be support in a 7.1 or other version? or using a higher kernel than 2.2.16? Cheers MARCUS On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Timo Schoeler wrote:
hello marcus,
in fact it seems to be very difficult to get a non-apple ethernet device working under ppclinux...
a few weeks ago i tried to to this on both my 8200/120 (was my server) an my beloved g4; i tried to get these cards running:
* SMC EtherPower II (aka 9432TX, on the x86 BSDs and Linux it runs VERY fine using the 'EPIC 100' driver)
* Farallon with DEC 'Tulip' Chepset (i.e. the 2104x)
the 8200 has 64 meg, the g4 has 2048meg RAM.
the onboard eth's of both machines work fine (that's the point: the 10mbit of the 8200 is not very useful for servers... ;-)
trying to address the NICs led to
i) nothing (NIC was'nt addressable, no errors were shown)
ii) a hanging machine (no kernel panic, no errors; machine halted, had to be resetted by the button...)
after posting this to several lists (not also SuSE but debian etc.) there were plenty replies of people also trying to get such a device to work but with little or no success.
no solution for this 'til now, i guess (so now my sun play server :-(
greetz, timo
Hi
I bought a Farallon 10/100 ethernet card for my PowerCenter 150 (w/G3 card) this weekend. It works great on the mac side, but doesnt connect on the linux side.
I know the card is being recognized as eth1, but when I tried different routing combinations, I still could not get a connection. I am using the 2.2.16 kernel and Suse 7.0.
Cheers
MARCUS
hello marcus, i don't think it's impossible... i tried it with SuSE 6.4, 7.0, and 7.1; i'm evaluating debian (potato 2.2r3) right now, no further information in this forum (you may feel free to contact me at my email address ;-) that said, it didn't work with neither kernel 2.2.x nor 2.4.x AFAIK the 'original' cards (or chipsets) came/come from znyx; i'm testing this week whether their cards will work with the driver used to address the onboard interface ('gmac', respectively). ** on the other side, watch http://www.znyx.com; here you'll find drivers, even for linux 'all platfroms', including ***source code*** :-))) good luck and cu, timo
Hmm :-/
So you think it's impossible to get it to work? :-(
Where do I find an apple ethernet pci device :-)
This card was a pretty good deal and I'd hate to have to take it back :-/
do you think there is/will be support in a 7.1 or other version? or using a higher kernel than 2.2.16?
Cheers
MARCUS
Hi Timo, Marcus, Have you tried Don Becker's driver? See http://www.scyld.com/pipermail/tulip/2000-May/subject.html#2160 hysterion Timo Schoeler wrote:
hello marcus,
in fact it seems to be very difficult to get a non-apple ethernet device working under ppclinux...
a few weeks ago i tried to to this on both my 8200/120 (was my server) an my beloved g4; i tried to get these cards running:
* SMC EtherPower II (aka 9432TX, on the x86 BSDs and Linux it runs VERY fine using the 'EPIC 100' driver)
* Farallon with DEC 'Tulip' Chepset (i.e. the 2104x)
the 8200 has 64 meg, the g4 has 2048meg RAM.
the onboard eth's of both machines work fine (that's the point: the 10mbit of the 8200 is not very useful for servers... ;-)
trying to address the NICs led to
i) nothing (NIC was'nt addressable, no errors were shown)
ii) a hanging machine (no kernel panic, no errors; machine halted, had to be resetted by the button...)
after posting this to several lists (not also SuSE but debian etc.) there were plenty replies of people also trying to get such a device to work but with little or no success.
no solution for this 'til now, i guess (so now my sun play server :-(
greetz, timo
Hi
I bought a Farallon 10/100 ethernet card for my PowerCenter 150 (w/G3 card) this weekend. It works great on the mac side, but doesnt connect on the linux side.
I know the card is being recognized as eth1, but when I tried different routing combinations, I still could not get a connection. I am using the 2.2.16 kernel and Suse 7.0.
Cheers
MARCUS
hi hysterion, thanx for your information -- i'll get them and try whether they work or not; btw -- look at this site http://www.znyx.com/drivers/os/linux.htm from znyx (as posted a few days ago, it seems to be quite sure that apple uses their chipsets; look at your non-b&w g3-server!) on this site you'll get drivers for linux x86 and 'MCP750' -- i guess they mean the 'MPC750', cos this is the old school g3 processor by motorola... as i see in the pdf they mean some industrial duty computers which seem to run linuxppc as well -- so it should work on the macs?! there is plenty instruction of how to compile the source to build a loadable kernel module (insmod et altera)... i'll try this weekend ;-) thanx so far and greetz, timo
Hi Timo, Marcus,
Have you tried Don Becker's driver? See
http://www.scyld.com/pipermail/tulip/2000-May/subject.html#2160
hysterion
On Mon, Jul 02, Marcus Calahan wrote:
Hi
I bought a Farallon 10/100 ethernet card for my PowerCenter 150 (w/G3 card) this weekend. It works great on the mac side, but doesnt connect on the linux side.
I know the card is being recognized as eth1, but when I tried different routing combinations, I still could not get a connection. I am using the 2.2.16 kernel and Suse 7.0.
Can you try a newer kernel? ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/ppc/kernel/BETA/k_deflt.rpm 2.4 should work better with some network cards, I guess you need the tulip driver. Gruss Olaf -- $ man clone BUGS Main feature not yet implemented...
On Tue, Jul 03, Olaf Hering wrote:
On Mon, Jul 02, Marcus Calahan wrote:
Hi
I bought a Farallon 10/100 ethernet card for my PowerCenter 150 (w/G3 card) this weekend. It works great on the mac side, but doesnt connect on the linux side.
I know the card is being recognized as eth1, but when I tried different routing combinations, I still could not get a connection. I am using the 2.2.16 kernel and Suse 7.0.
Can you try a newer kernel? ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/ppc/kernel/BETA/k_deflt.rpm
2.4 should work better with some network cards, I guess you need the tulip driver.
You need newer modutils and ppp: ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/ppc/kernel/modutils-2.4.1-0.ppc.rpm Gruss Olaf -- $ man clone BUGS Main feature not yet implemented...
Joss Winn wrote:
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 05:45:21PM +0200, nicola moretti wrote:
Joss Winn wrote:
I have noticed that when I boot up my Mac and run Norton, it shows a lot of 'Major Errors' with my HFS volume that I use to share files with Linux. I am wondering if these really are 'major errors' in Linux, or if it is just a Norton quirk. Even with the errors, I seem to be able to use the HFS volumes with no problems in Linux.
thanks Joss -- http://www.josswinn.org
What kind of errors? Norton's "serious" errors often are very, very minor (if errors at all)... And what version (OS and Norton)?
regards nicola
Hi Nicola,
Sorry I can't reproduce the errors immediately because I have just fixed them, but I am using Norton 5.x and Mac OS 9.1
thank you joss -- http://www.josswinn.org
Joss, to avoid tons of false alarms, you may try this: - (use hfsutils as per Olaf's advice; thanks Olaf!) - check that you have Norton 5.0.3. Update if not... - In Disk Doctor's Preferences (General pane), UNcheck these checkboxes: "Check for defective media" (completely useless, imho: other tools can diagnose a defective disk much better), "Check Files" (who cares about dates, FinderInfo bits, resource forks? Certainly not for files coming from Linux), "Check System folder" (another useless feature). This will also make checking partitions MUCH faster. regards nicola
Hi all, There was a discussion of HFS and Norton on the Mac OSX listgroup a few months ago, where folks had seen lots of error messages from Norton even though OSX was running just fine. Many of us ran fsck and looked for the trouble without success. The conclusion in that group seemed to be that the problem was Norton, not HFS or OSX. It may be the same here. -- Tom Dove On Tuesday, July 3, 2001, at 04:51 AM, nicola moretti wrote:
Joss Winn wrote:
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 05:45:21PM +0200, nicola moretti wrote:
Joss Winn wrote:
I have noticed that when I boot up my Mac and run Norton, it shows a lot of 'Major Errors' with my HFS volume that I use to share files with Linux. I am wondering if these really are 'major errors' in Linux, or if it is just a Norton quirk. Even with the errors, I seem to be able to use the HFS volumes with no problems in Linux.
thanks Joss -- http://www.josswinn.org
What kind of errors? Norton's "serious" errors often are very, very minor (if errors at all)... And what version (OS and Norton)?
regards nicola
Hi Nicola,
Sorry I can't reproduce the errors immediately because I have just fixed them, but I am using Norton 5.x and Mac OS 9.1
thank you joss -- http://www.josswinn.org
Joss,
to avoid tons of false alarms, you may try this: - (use hfsutils as per Olaf's advice; thanks Olaf!) - check that you have Norton 5.0.3. Update if not... - In Disk Doctor's Preferences (General pane), UNcheck these checkboxes: "Check for defective media" (completely useless, imho: other tools can diagnose a defective disk much better), "Check Files" (who cares about dates, FinderInfo bits, resource forks? Certainly not for files coming from Linux), "Check System folder" (another useless feature). This will also make checking partitions MUCH faster.
regards nicola
On Tue, Jul 03, Joss Winn wrote:
I have noticed that when I boot up my Mac and run Norton, it shows a lot of 'Major Errors' with my HFS volume that I use to share files with Linux. I am wondering if these really are 'major errors' in Linux, or if it is just a Norton quirk. Even with the errors, I seem to be able to use the HFS volumes with no problems in Linux.
Do you use `mount -t hfs` or hfsutils? You want to use hfsutils... ;) Gruss Olaf -- $ man clone BUGS Main feature not yet implemented...
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