On 01.10.2012, at 22:44, Dinar Valeev wrote:

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Larry Finger wrote:

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On 10/01/2012 10:02 AM, Dinar Valeev wrote:

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Yay, we have 12.2 code base build for Power [1]. So far we have about 50 packages failed to build and 70 unresolvable.

Please give it a try. Core system should work.

Have fun, Dinar

[1] http://download.opensuse.org/ports/ppc/distribution/12.2/iso/

Thanks for the effort. Should the 32-bit CD work for a PowerBook G4 Titanium? It fails to boot on my machine, which has Mint 9 dual booting with OS X 10.4.

On power up, I get the normal "First Stage GNU/Linux Bootstrap" heading, followed by the normal "Press l for Linux", etc. When I choose "c" for CDROM, I get "Booting CDROM" that quickly results in a screen flash that looks like a restart, followed by a repeat of the bootstrap prompt. The second time, the machine hangs after the "Booting CDROM". One time, I got a "Catch FFFFFFFF" printed. When it hangs, the CPU is busy as the fan runs at high speed. Could you please try to boot it through OF?

When booting the 12.2 image in QEMU, I get an error that OF couldn't find :tbxi. However, looking at the HFS partition on the DVD, it seems to have the flag correctly set: $ hls -l suseboot f UNIX/UNIX 0 28023754 Sep 25 11:49 initrd32 f UNIX/UNIX 0 29115153 Sep 25 12:04 initrd64 f UNIX/UNIX 0 31994661 Sep 25 12:06 inst32 f UNIX/UNIX 0 35550141 Sep 25 12:06 inst64 f Gzip/Gzip 0 4580676 Sep 25 12:05 linux32.gz f Gzip/Gzip 0 7453094 Sep 25 12:05 linux64.gz d 0 items Sep 26 10:08 loader f tbxi/chrp 0 1830 Sep 25 12:06 os-chooser f UNIX/UNIX 0 502598 Sep 25 11:14 yaboot f TEXT/ttxt 0 551 Sep 25 12:06 yaboot.cnf f UNIX/UNIX 0 502598 Sep 25 11:14 yaboot.ibm f TEXT/R*ch 0 220 Sep 25 12:06 yaboot.txt and in fact, booting os-chooser manually also seems to work: Welcome to OpenBIOS v1.0 built on Aug 28 2012 05:40 Trying cd:,\\:tbxi... No valid state has been set by load or init-program 0 > boot cd:,\suseboot\os-chooser yaboot starting: loaded at 00040000 00065a28 (0/0/fff025a4; sp: 07de7ff0) Config file 'yaboot.cnf' read, 551 bytes [...] Still trying to investigate what's breaking down here. Alex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+owner@opensuse.org

On 01.10.2012, at 23:27, Alexander Graf wrote:

On 01.10.2012, at 22:56, Alexander Graf wrote:

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On 01.10.2012, at 22:44, Dinar Valeev wrote:

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On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Larry Finger wrote:

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On 10/01/2012 10:02 AM, Dinar Valeev wrote:

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Yay, we have 12.2 code base build for Power [1]. So far we have about 50 packages failed to build and 70 unresolvable.

Please give it a try. Core system should work.

Have fun, Dinar

[1] http://download.opensuse.org/ports/ppc/distribution/12.2/iso/

Thanks for the effort. Should the 32-bit CD work for a PowerBook G4 Titanium? It fails to boot on my machine, which has Mint 9 dual booting with OS X 10.4.

On power up, I get the normal "First Stage GNU/Linux Bootstrap" heading, followed by the normal "Press l for Linux", etc. When I choose "c" for CDROM, I get "Booting CDROM" that quickly results in a screen flash that looks like a restart, followed by a repeat of the bootstrap prompt. The second time, the machine hangs after the "Booting CDROM". One time, I got a "Catch FFFFFFFF" printed. When it hangs, the CPU is busy as the fan runs at high speed. Could you please try to boot it through OF?

When booting the 12.2 image in QEMU, I get an error that OF couldn't find :tbxi. However, looking at the HFS partition on the DVD, it seems to have the flag correctly set:

$ hls -l suseboot f UNIX/UNIX 0 28023754 Sep 25 11:49 initrd32 f UNIX/UNIX 0 29115153 Sep 25 12:04 initrd64 f UNIX/UNIX 0 31994661 Sep 25 12:06 inst32 f UNIX/UNIX 0 35550141 Sep 25 12:06 inst64 f Gzip/Gzip 0 4580676 Sep 25 12:05 linux32.gz f Gzip/Gzip 0 7453094 Sep 25 12:05 linux64.gz d 0 items Sep 26 10:08 loader f tbxi/chrp 0 1830 Sep 25 12:06 os-chooser f UNIX/UNIX 0 502598 Sep 25 11:14 yaboot f TEXT/ttxt 0 551 Sep 25 12:06 yaboot.cnf f UNIX/UNIX 0 502598 Sep 25 11:14 yaboot.ibm f TEXT/R*ch 0 220 Sep 25 12:06 yaboot.txt

and in fact, booting os-chooser manually also seems to work:

Welcome to OpenBIOS v1.0 built on Aug 28 2012 05:40 Trying cd:,\\:tbxi... No valid state has been set by load or init-program

0 > boot cd:,\suseboot\os-chooser yaboot starting: loaded at 00040000 00065a28 (0/0/fff025a4; sp: 07de7ff0) Config file 'yaboot.cnf' read, 551 bytes [...]

Still trying to investigate what's breaking down here.

So the default boot path is \\:tbxi. \\ means "blessed folder on the first HFS volume". :tbxi means "file in a folder with the tbxi file type".

Now, the latter part is fine. If I manually say

0 > boot cd:,\suseboot\:tbxi

then the 12.2 install DVD works just fine.

However, it can not resolve \\. Adding a bit of debug code, an 11.1 DVD gives on "blessed folder" resolution:

Blessed: 3c

while the 12.2 one says:

Blessed: 0

So for some reason the suseboot directory is not blessed. And that's why openBIOS fails to find it as \\.

Blessing of folders happens with hattrib -b. Where is the script that does the tbxi setting on os-chooser? The same script should also do hattrib -b on suseboot to get a working system directory. Alex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:28 AM, Andreas Schwab wrote:

Alexander Graf writes:

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Where is the script that does the tbxi setting on os-chooser? The same script should also do hattrib -b on suseboot to get a working system directory.

kiwi/modules/KIWIIsoLinux.pm kiwi/modules/KIWIIsoLinux-AppleFileMapping.txt Andreas, Thanks for the tip.

Andreas.

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On 10/01/2012 03:44 PM, Dinar Valeev wrote:

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Larry Finger wrote:

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On 10/01/2012 10:02 AM, Dinar Valeev wrote:

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Yay, we have 12.2 code base build for Power [1]. So far we have about 50 packages failed to build and 70 unresolvable.

Please give it a try. Core system should work.

Have fun, Dinar

[1] http://download.opensuse.org/ports/ppc/distribution/12.2/iso/

Thanks for the effort. Should the 32-bit CD work for a PowerBook G4 Titanium? It fails to boot on my machine, which has Mint 9 dual booting with OS X 10.4.

On power up, I get the normal "First Stage GNU/Linux Bootstrap" heading, followed by the normal "Press l for Linux", etc. When I choose "c" for CDROM, I get "Booting CDROM" that quickly results in a screen flash that looks like a restart, followed by a repeat of the bootstrap prompt. The second time, the machine hangs after the "Booting CDROM". One time, I got a "Catch FFFFFFFF" printed. When it hangs, the CPU is busy as the fan runs at high speed. Could you please try to boot it through OF?

It took a bit of searching to find out about booting through the open firmware. Once I figured that part out and using the work around from Alexander, I got it to boot and started the installation; however, it seems that DNS is not working. I was asked for the HTTP IP address - something that I do not know. The wired interface on the Mac is working. I do not have time to work on this problem at the moment, but will let you know what I find later. Larry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+owner@opensuse.org

Ok, the fix is known. The question is are we able to fix it? installation images made on x86 box using x86 kiwi. In order to fix it, we have to fix kiwi. Since 12.2(x86) is frozen now. It is almost not possible. The solution might be to prefer ppc kiwi in the project configuration.. Don't know if it possible at all. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:20 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:

On 02.10.2012, at 01:11, Larry Finger wrote:

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On 10/01/2012 03:44 PM, Dinar Valeev wrote:

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On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Larry Finger wrote:

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On 10/01/2012 10:02 AM, Dinar Valeev wrote:

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Yay, we have 12.2 code base build for Power [1]. So far we have about 50 packages failed to build and 70 unresolvable.

Please give it a try. Core system should work.

Have fun, Dinar

[1] http://download.opensuse.org/ports/ppc/distribution/12.2/iso/

Thanks for the effort. Should the 32-bit CD work for a PowerBook G4 Titanium? It fails to boot on my machine, which has Mint 9 dual booting with OS X 10.4.

On power up, I get the normal "First Stage GNU/Linux Bootstrap" heading, followed by the normal "Press l for Linux", etc. When I choose "c" for CDROM, I get "Booting CDROM" that quickly results in a screen flash that looks like a restart, followed by a repeat of the bootstrap prompt. The second time, the machine hangs after the "Booting CDROM". One time, I got a "Catch FFFFFFFF" printed. When it hangs, the CPU is busy as the fan runs at high speed. Could you please try to boot it through OF?

It took a bit of searching to find out about booting through the open firmware. Once I figured that part out and using the work around from Alexander, I got it to boot and started the installation; however, it seems that DNS is not working. I was asked for the HTTP IP address - something that I do not know. The wired interface on the Mac is working.

It asks for the IP address, but it happily resolves names too if you enter them :).

Alex

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On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Marcus Meissner wrote:

On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 05:27:09PM +0200, Dinar Valeev wrote:

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Ok, the fix is known. The question is are we able to fix it? installation images made on x86 box using x86 kiwi. In order to fix it, we have to fix kiwi.

Since 12.2(x86) is frozen now. It is almost not possible. The solution might be to prefer ppc kiwi in the project configuration.. Don't know if it possible at all.

I have set it up with Adrian in some magic way. ;)

So we hopefully can supply a build with updated kiwi and so get booting cds. That's great! I've sent patches upstream. https://github.com/openSUSE/kiwi/pull/123

Do you want me to package those patches?

Ciao, Marcus

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The new image has been rebuilt. But it is not published yet?... weird. Might be due transition from powerpc.opensuse.org to download.opensuse.org/ports Anyway. It have integrated fixes for installation-images (thanks Andreas) and kiwi, so it should be bootable on macs On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Marcus Meissner wrote:

On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 06:38:42PM +0200, Dinar Valeev wrote:

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On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Marcus Meissner wrote:

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On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 05:27:09PM +0200, Dinar Valeev wrote:

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Ok, the fix is known. The question is are we able to fix it? installation images made on x86 box using x86 kiwi. In order to fix it, we have to fix kiwi.

Since 12.2(x86) is frozen now. It is almost not possible. The solution might be to prefer ppc kiwi in the project configuration.. Don't know if it possible at all.

I have set it up with Adrian in some magic way. ;)

So we hopefully can supply a build with updated kiwi and so get booting cds. That's great! I've sent patches upstream. https://github.com/openSUSE/kiwi/pull/123

Do you want me to package those patches?

Yes please.

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On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Larry Finger wrote:

On 10/03/2012 05:15 PM, Dinar Valeev wrote:

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The new image has been rebuilt. But it is not published yet?... weird. Might be due transition from powerpc.opensuse.org to download.opensuse.org/ports

Anyway. It have integrated fixes for installation-images (thanks Andreas) and kiwi, so it should be bootable on macs

Build 0007 of the ppc NET CD is bootable for me. I started the installation, but it could not find my harddrive. Is pata_macio included in the configuration? I tried to find the configuration in the rescue system, but /proc/config.gz is not present. Yes, the patch provided by Adreas is applied.

Thanks,

Larry

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On 10/05/2012 01:27 PM, Andreas Schwab wrote:

Larry Finger writes:

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Build 0007 of the ppc NET CD is bootable for me. I started the installation, but it could not find my harddrive. Is pata_macio included in the configuration?

Worksforme on the iBook G4.

I had to manually load pata_macio using expert mode through the rescue option to get my disks recognized. After that I got what I expected. I did not finish the installation as yaboot.conf and ybin on my Mint 9 installation are messed up, thus I could not rewrite the bootstrap there if something went wrong. I'll check that later. Larry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+owner@opensuse.org

On 08.10.2012, at 01:36, Alexander Graf wrote:

On 01.10.2012, at 17:02, Dinar Valeev wrote:

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Yay, we have 12.2 code base build for Power [1]. So far we have about 50 packages failed to build and 70 unresolvable.

Please give it a try. Core system should work.

I gave 12.2-rc1 a try on a G4 PowerBook. Issues I have encountered:

- wifi doesn't work in the installer - touchpad doesn't work in the installer - installer X uses 8bit color? - partitioner couldn't suggest layout

Installing now. Let's see how well the boot loader installation goes ;).

Aha! Perl-bootloader complains: SetLoaderType: Missing subarch for powerlilo. Alex

Alex

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On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:

On 08.10.2012, at 10:10, Alexander Graf wrote:

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Some more seems to be broken. Yaboot doesn't get the machine up yet :). Invalid device - hrm.

Simple problem, simple solution. Yaboot can't handle ext4, so I reinstalled with ext3. That one yaboot can read.

Now someone should probably go ahead and tell lilo that yaboot can't read ext4 and that it instead should copy kernel+initrd over to the HFS helper partition :).

We have can_yaboot_read funtion, which checks if yaboot is capable to read such fs. [[ "$fs" == @(ext2|ext3|msdos|vfat|reiserfs|iso9660|xfs) ]] || return 1; ext4 case handled in the same way, as root on lvm handled. At least under PowerVM vfat partition is created, so we can load the initrd and then a kernel from anywhere we want.

Alex

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On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:

On 08.10.2012, at 14:56, Dinar Valeev wrote:

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On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:

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On 08.10.2012, at 10:10, Alexander Graf wrote:

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Some more seems to be broken. Yaboot doesn't get the machine up yet :). Invalid device - hrm.

Simple problem, simple solution. Yaboot can't handle ext4, so I reinstalled with ext3. That one yaboot can read.

Now someone should probably go ahead and tell lilo that yaboot can't read ext4 and that it instead should copy kernel+initrd over to the HFS helper partition :).

We have can_yaboot_read funtion, which checks if yaboot is capable to read such fs.

[[ "$fs" == @(ext2|ext3|msdos|vfat|reiserfs|iso9660|xfs) ]] || return 1;

ext4 case handled in the same way, as root on lvm handled. At least under PowerVM vfat partition is created, so we can load the initrd and then a kernel from anywhere we want.

Odd.

Oh, well. Here's more breakage:

- touchpad works in X after installation, just not during installation. Missing driver? - nv driver doesn't get detected by Xorg - nv driver doesn't work :). Barely shows anything on the screen. Looks quite broken - nouveau driver doesn't get built - bcm wifi drivers need to be manually downloaded. Now wifi works.

That's great! ;) That telling us, core OS works... (except ext4)

Alex

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On 08.10.2012, at 17:58, Andreas Schwab wrote:

Alexander Graf writes:

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- nv driver doesn't work :). Barely shows anything on the screen. Looks quite broken

Does home:AndreasSchwab:12.2/xorg-x11-server help?

I must've been using the fbdev/vesa driver earlier. Now with only nv as adapter in my xorg.conf I get: [ 452.032] (EE) NV: The PCI device 0x10de0329 (GeForce FX 5200 (Mac)) at 00@00:16:0 has a kernel module claiming it. [ 452.032] (EE) NV: This driver cannot operate until it has been unloaded. [ 452.032] (EE) No devices detected. while nouveau gives me: [ 517.131] (EE) [drm] failed to open device Meh. Still poking. Alex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+owner@opensuse.org

On 08.10.2012, at 20:44, Andreas Schwab wrote:

Alexander Graf writes:

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[ 452.032] (EE) NV: The PCI device 0x10de0329 (GeForce FX 5200 (Mac)) at 00@00:16:0 has a kernel module claiming it.

You need home:AndreasSchwab:12.2/xf86-video-nv as well.

Haha. Awesome patch. I'll give it a try once it's done building :) Alex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+owner@opensuse.org

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:

On 08.10.2012, at 20:48, Alexander Graf wrote:

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On 08.10.2012, at 20:44, Andreas Schwab wrote:

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Alexander Graf writes:

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[ 452.032] (EE) NV: The PCI device 0x10de0329 (GeForce FX 5200 (Mac)) at 00@00:16:0 has a kernel module claiming it.

You need home:AndreasSchwab:12.2/xf86-video-nv as well.

Haha. Awesome patch. I'll give it a try once it's done building :)

That does indeed look a lot better. Who would've thought this PowerBook would ever get to see openSUSE running gnome 3? :)

So how do we get all that work into 12.2 now? And are the hacky patches the right solution?

If it works, I think we can include them with %ifarch

Alex

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Just tried to install build13 under PowerVM LPAR (ext4). No luck so far. nvram complains that it cannot set value for bootinfo-linux (is it gone from OF?) After I've commented that string. bootloader installed without complains. But OF fails to find even yaboot. So the situation is worse than on pmac. Lets see if ext3 will succeed. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:

Am 08.10.2012 um 21:22 schrieb Dinar Valeev :

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On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:

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On 08.10.2012, at 20:48, Alexander Graf wrote:

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On 08.10.2012, at 20:44, Andreas Schwab wrote:

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Alexander Graf writes:

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[ 452.032] (EE) NV: The PCI device 0x10de0329 (GeForce FX 5200 (Mac)) at 00@00:16:0 has a kernel module claiming it.

You need home:AndreasSchwab:12.2/xf86-video-nv as well.

Haha. Awesome patch. I'll give it a try once it's done building :)

That does indeed look a lot better. Who would've thought this PowerBook would ever get to see openSUSE running gnome 3? :)

So how do we get all that work into 12.2 now? And are the hacky patches the right solution?

If it works, I think we can include them with %ifarch

It definitely works :)

Alex

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Alex

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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Andreas Färber wrote:

Am 08.10.2012 09:34, schrieb Alexander Graf:

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On 08.10.2012, at 01:36, Alexander Graf wrote:

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Installing now. Let's see how well the boot loader installation goes ;).

Aha! Perl-bootloader complains: SetLoaderType: Missing subarch for powerlilo.

I've seen that regularly on my power5 box the last months, and yet everythings seemed to work. ;) Yeah.. just figured out perl-Bootloader tries to install grub2 there. Or it just complains /sbin/lilo is mission (but it is available) It basically checks if grub2 is available, it tries to install it.

Andreas

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Made a progress here.. (Thanks to Olaf) The issue here is mkdosfs produces a fs, which is not compatible with the pSeries firmware. dosfsutils have to be fixed. On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Dinar Valeev wrote:

Trying to debug ext4 on PowerVM. Bootloader seems installed fine, but OF doesn't see it.

Anybody have an idea how pSeries firmware looking for yaboot to boot? boot-device nvram variable doing that

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