[opensuse-packaging] how to include icons from an alternative theme?

Marguerite Su

8 Sep 2013 8 Sep '13

12:19

Hi, Recently I'm updating our LXDE, and I met a problem Their packages used a lot of icons from nuoveXT2-icon-theme in their desktop files. So I always get "Error Icon in /usr/share/applications/pcmanfm-desktop-pref.desktop not found "user-desktop". Usually if it's an icon in hicolor-icon-theme, you add a BuildRequires: hicolor-icon-theme Then it will be automatically resolved. But I added BuildRequires: nuoveXT2-icon-theme And nothing happened. Anyone know how to workaround this? Greetings Marguerite -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org

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Křištof Želechovski

8 Sep 8 Sep

12:45

Dnia niedziela, 8 września 2013 20:19:32 Marguerite Su pisze:

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Hi,

Recently I'm updating our LXDE, and I met a problem

Their packages used a lot of icons from nuoveXT2-icon-theme in their desktop files.

So I always get "Error Icon in /usr/share/applications/pcmanfm-desktop-pref.desktop not found "user-desktop".

Usually if it's an icon in hicolor-icon-theme, you add a

BuildRequires: hicolor-icon-theme

Then it will be automatically resolved.

But I added

BuildRequires: nuoveXT2-icon-theme

And nothing happened.

What did you expect to happen? Chris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org

Marguerite Su

13:22

On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Křištof Želechovski wrote:

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What did you expect to happen?

Hi, Chris, I wanna know a way that I do something in the spec file, then Icon=user-desktop will automatically recognize /usr/share/icons/nouveXT2/*/places/user-desktop.png in the build VM's /usr ( that's how BuildRequires works) as its icon, thus resolve the icon not found error, while without manually installing an user-desktop icon in pcmanfm's spec file (goes to BUILDROOT) because there're such icons in nouveXT2-icon-theme package. Nowadays freedesktop icon specification says: The lookup is done first in the current theme, and then recursively in each of the current theme's parents, and finally in the default theme called "hicolor" http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-theme-spec/latest/ar01s05.html Marguerite -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org

Yamaban

13:39

New subject: [opensuse-packaging] Re: Re: how to include icons from an alternative theme?

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 15:22, Marguerite Su wrote:

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On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Křištof Želechovski wrote:

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What did you expect to happen?

Hi, Chris,

I wanna know a way that I do something in the spec file,

then

Icon=user-desktop

will automatically recognize /usr/share/icons/nouveXT2/*/places/user-desktop.png

in the build VM's /usr ( that's how BuildRequires works)

as its icon, thus resolve the icon not found error,

while without manually installing an user-desktop icon in pcmanfm's spec file (goes to BUILDROOT)

because there're such icons in nouveXT2-icon-theme package.

Nowadays freedesktop icon specification says:

The lookup is done first in the current theme, and then recursively in each of the current theme's parents, and finally in the default theme called "hicolor"

http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-theme-spec/latest/ar01s05.html

Attention: the hicolor theme does NOT contain the places/user-desktop.{png,svg} file Maybe that is what kills the dog here? - Yamaban

Marguerite Su

14:20

New subject: [opensuse-packaging] Re: Re: how to include icons from an alternative theme?

On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Yamaban wrote:

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Attention: the hicolor theme does NOT contain the places/user-desktop.{png,svg} file

Maybe that is what kills the dog here?

Hi, Yamaban, Yes, I was aware of that. That's exactly the reason why the dog get killed :D But I wanna know if there's a workaround, eg: appending nouveXT2 to the lookup. Because at least for now, there're three desktop files referring to three icons inside nouveXT2. If I extract them from nouveXT2 and put them into hicolor (This may be the traditional way), then on a LXDE machine...icons will be redundant. Marguerite -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org

Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger

13:47

On Son, 2013-09-08 at 21:22 +0800, Marguerite Su wrote:

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On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Křištof Želechovski wrote:

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What did you expect to happen?

Hi, Chris,

I wanna know a way that I do something in the spec file,

then

Icon=user-desktop

will automatically recognize /usr/share/icons/nouveXT2/*/places/user-desktop.png

You can't. And this would only make sense if nouveaXT2 is a fallback theme used by LXDE in any case... which it is not. So in all other cases, when a user does not have this icon them CONFIGURE (does not even matter if installed), the user would simply not get a nice icon and it would fall back to a 'fallback'/'generic' icon in the hicolor theme. GNOME and KDE both have a fallback to their own Icone set /usr/share/icons/gnome/...). For gnome apps for example, it is only allowed to refer icons in the gnome icon set if OnlyShowIn=GNOME is set, to ensure that KDE users will not be bitten by that. So you see, there is a clear reason for the check... it does not really matter in which theme an icon can be found, unless you can 100% guarantee that the user will USE this theme. Dominique -- Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org

Marguerite Su

14:32

Hi, Dimstar, On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger wrote:

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You can't. And this would only make sense if nouveaXT2 is a fallback theme used by LXDE in any case... which it is not.

Err...nouveXT2 is the only icon theme located under x11:lxde repo. and its source is actually lxde-icon-theme-%{version}.tar.bz2 which is provided by upstream and used by default. http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/nuoveXT+2+fixed?content=116652 So I think nouveXT2 is the fallback theme.

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GNOME and KDE both have a fallback to their own Icone set /usr/share/icons/gnome/...).

For gnome apps for example, it is only allowed to refer icons in the gnome icon set if OnlyShowIn=GNOME is set, to ensure that KDE users will not be bitten by that.

So you see, there is a clear reason for the check... it does not really matter in which theme an icon can be found, unless you can 100% guarantee that the user will USE this theme.

I can't 100% guarantee user will USE this theme, but I can 100% guarantee user will have this theme INSTALLed... So please teach me the fallback system used by gnome-icon-theme... I think upstream also want that way, but they still didn't get it implemented. I may help with that :D Marguerite -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org

Křištof Želechovski

9 Sep 9 Sep

17:27

Dnia niedziela, 8 września 2013 21:22:42 Marguerite Su pisze:

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On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Křištof Želechovski

wrote:

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What did you expect to happen?

Hi, Chris,

I wanna know a way that I do something in the spec file,

then

Icon=user-desktop

will automatically recognize /usr/share/icons/nouveXT2/*/places/user-desktop.png

in the build VM's /usr ( that's how BuildRequires works)

as its icon, thus resolve the icon not found error,

while without manually installing an user-desktop icon in pcmanfm's spec file (goes to BUILDROOT)

because there're such icons in nouveXT2-icon-theme package.

What is the default theme for use abuild? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org

Dmitriy Perlow

8 Sep 8 Sep

16:04

Marguerite Su Sun, 08 Sep 2013 15:19:32 +0300:

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Hi,

Recently I'm updating our LXDE, and I met a problem

Their packages used a lot of icons from nuoveXT2-icon-theme in their desktop files.

So I always get "Error Icon in /usr/share/applications/pcmanfm-desktop-pref.desktop not found "user-desktop".

Usually if it's an icon in hicolor-icon-theme, you add a

BuildRequires: hicolor-icon-theme

Then it will be automatically resolved.

But I added

BuildRequires: nuoveXT2-icon-theme

And nothing happened.

Anyone know how to workaround this?

Greetings

Marguerite

Hello. Sorry, no ideas except installing this icon with the package. Of course f.e. you can try to %exclude it in the %files section, but I am not sure that there will not be raised the same error. -- Dmitriy DA(P).DarkneSS Perlow / Linux x64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org

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Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger
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