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Stefan Seyfried

20 Aug 2009 20 Aug '09

12:10

Hi, some of my packages are urgently in need o fa loving hand. Some already have found a new home, but those probably also can benefit from a helpful co-maintainer. Some are not very useful IMHO and good candidates for dropping, but maybe someone thinks differently and wants to maintain them. Here we go: Package | drop? |Notes -------------|----------|------------------------------------------------ acpid | probably | low maintenance effort brlemu | no | very low effort comgt | yes | not really useful anymore cpufrequtils | yes | not really needed libdaemon | no | ifplugd needs this. low effort ifplugd | no | network without NM needs this, low effort kqemu-kmp | yes | everybody has VT capable processors anyway ;) laptop-mode-tools | no | leafnode | yes | anybody using this? not me. Low effort, though libebml | yes | needed by mkvtoolnix libmatroska | yes | needed by mkvtoolnix mkvtoolnix | yes | easy to maintain, but I don't use it libsynaptics | yes libx86 | no | needed by suspend and vbetool mailsync | yes | anybody using this? ozerocdoff | yes | the kernel now should do this AFAIK pm-utils | no | need some amount of love to sync with upstream radeontool | yes | nobody should use it anyway rovclock | yes | see radeontool suspend | no | needed for s2ram, s2disk tuxcursors | yes | but I'll keep them in my home project ;) umtsmon | no | should be obsoleted by NM since years usb_modeswitch | yes | see ozerocdoff vbetool | yes | see radeontool Those have already found new maintainers, but surely could benefit from active co-maintainership: (maintained by Vladimir Botka, vbotka): bluez | no | active upstream, but easy to maintain bluez-firmware | no | see bluez bluez-hcidump | no | see bluez-firmware (maintained by Matthias Hopf, mopf) lablgtk2 | no | needed by unison, needs some packaging cleanup unison | no | useful, not too much effort Thanks, seife -- Stefan Seyfried R&D Preload Department | "Any ideas, John?" SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nürnberg | "Well, surrounding them's out." This footer brought to you by insane German lawmakers: SUSE Linux Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

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Cristian Morales Vega

20 Aug 20 Aug

13:39

2009/8/20 Stefan Seyfried :

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libebml | yes | needed by mkvtoolnix libmatroska | yes | needed by mkvtoolnix mkvtoolnix | yes | easy to maintain, but I don't use it

Nowadays I don't use it so much, but I know it. I can maintain them... just, how do you know about new releases? There is no ML, news RSS or anything similar. I just set the osc overview plugin for mkvtoolnix from Freshmeat, but there is no info available for the libraries. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Stefan Seyfried

13:50

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:39:53 +0200 Cristian Morales Vega wrote:

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2009/8/20 Stefan Seyfried :

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libebml | yes | needed by mkvtoolnix libmatroska | yes | needed by mkvtoolnix mkvtoolnix | yes | easy to maintain, but I don't use it

Nowadays I don't use it so much, but I know it. I can maintain them... just, how do you know about new releases? There is no ML, news RSS or anything similar. I just set the osc overview plugin for mkvtoolnix from Freshmeat, but there is no info available for the libraries.

I am getting mails from Moritz directly whenever he releases a new version. I think they go to matroska-users@lists.matroska.org and he just puts me into bcc:. I am sure that he will also put you in bcc: if we ask him ;) -- Stefan Seyfried R&D Preload Department | "Any ideas, John?" SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nürnberg | "Well, surrounding them's out." This footer brought to you by insane German lawmakers: SUSE Linux Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Cristian Morales Vega

14:50

2009/8/20 Stefan Seyfried :

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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:39:53 +0200 Cristian Morales Vega wrote:

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2009/8/20 Stefan Seyfried :

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libebml | yes | needed by mkvtoolnix libmatroska | yes | needed by mkvtoolnix mkvtoolnix | yes | easy to maintain, but I don't use it

Nowadays I don't use it so much, but I know it. I can maintain them... just, how do you know about new releases? There is no ML, news RSS or anything similar. I just set the osc overview plugin for mkvtoolnix from Freshmeat, but there is no info available for the libraries.

I am getting mails from Moritz directly whenever he releases a new version. I think they go to matroska-users@lists.matroska.org and he just puts me into bcc:. I am sure that he will also put you in bcc: if we ask him ;)

OK then. My OBS username is RedDwarf. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Stefan Seyfried

18:31

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:50:24 +0200 Cristian Morales Vega wrote:

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OK then. My OBS username is RedDwarf.

They are yours: seife@stoetzler:~> osc meta pkg multimedia:apps mkvtoolnix <package name="mkvtoolnix" project="multimedia:apps"> <title>mkvtoolnix</title> <description>NOTE: Automatically created during Factory devel project migration by admin.</description> <person role="maintainer" userid="seife"/> <person role="maintainer" userid="RedDwarf"/> <person role="bugowner" userid="RedDwarf"/> </package> (the same for the two libs). I kept myself as a co-maintainer, in case problems arise (I'm not dropping off the edge of the planet ;) Thanks! Stefan -- Stefan Seyfried R&D Preload Department | "Any ideas, John?" SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nürnberg | "Well, surrounding them's out." This footer brought to you by insane German lawmakers: SUSE Linux Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Vincent Untz

13:55

Le jeudi 20 août 2009, à 15:39 +0200, Cristian Morales Vega a écrit :

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2009/8/20 Stefan Seyfried :

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libebml | yes | needed by mkvtoolnix libmatroska | yes | needed by mkvtoolnix mkvtoolnix | yes | easy to maintain, but I don't use it

Nowadays I don't use it so much, but I know it. I can maintain them... just, how do you know about new releases? There is no ML, news RSS or anything similar. I just set the osc overview plugin for mkvtoolnix from Freshmeat, but there is no info available for the libraries.

I can add the metadata to the database behind osc gnome, if you want. "osc gnome todo" will let you know when there's an update, and you could even use "osc gnome update" to do a good part of the update to a new upstream version. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Dominique Leuenberger

13:59

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On 8/20/2009 at 15:55, Vincent Untz wrote: Le jeudi 20 août 2009, à 15:39 +0200, Cristian Morales Vega a écrit : 2009/8/20 Stefan Seyfried : libebml | yes | needed by mkvtoolnix libmatroska | yes | needed by mkvtoolnix mkvtoolnix | yes | easy to maintain, but I don't use it

Nowadays I don't use it so much, but I know it. I can maintain them... just, how do you know about new releases? There is no ML, news RSS or anything similar. I just set the osc overview plugin for mkvtoolnix from Freshmeat, but there is no info available for the libraries.

I can add the metadata to the database behind osc gnome, if you want. "osc gnome todo" will let you know when there's an update, and you could even use "osc gnome update" to do a good part of the update to a new upstream version.

Vincent, With all those updates it might almost become interesting for a user to 'subscribe' to packages he's interested in to update. Like this: osc gnome subscribe GNOME:Factory evolution osc gnome subscribe GNOME:Factory evolution-data-server And then an invocation of osc gnome todo -M would list all the packages I am subscribed to. Basically shifting the focus from 'project' as we have now to a 'user' view. (I chose -M as parameter as osc rq list uses -M to show (M)y requests too). With users being 'responsible' for packages cluttered all over the places this could really be an interesting feature (but would require sufficient backend power to track it). Any comments / denials / implementations are welcome. (Denials of course a bit less). Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Vincent Untz

14:10

Le jeudi 20 août 2009, à 15:59 +0200, Dominique Leuenberger a écrit :

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With all those updates it might almost become interesting for a user to 'subscribe' to packages he's interested in to update. Like this: osc gnome subscribe GNOME:Factory evolution osc gnome subscribe GNOME:Factory evolution-data-server

And then an invocation of osc gnome todo -M would list all the packages I am subscribed to.

Basically shifting the focus from 'project' as we have now to a 'user' view. (I chose -M as parameter as osc rq list uses -M to show (M)y requests too).

With users being 'responsible' for packages cluttered all over the places this could really be an interesting feature (but would require sufficient backend power to track it).

Any comments / denials / implementations are welcome. (Denials of course a bit less).

I'm working on this, actually. The plan is ready, I just need time to implement it. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Cristian Morales Vega

14:59

2009/8/20 Vincent Untz :

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Le jeudi 20 août 2009, à 15:39 +0200, Cristian Morales Vega a écrit :

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2009/8/20 Stefan Seyfried :

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libebml | yes | needed by mkvtoolnix libmatroska | yes | needed by mkvtoolnix mkvtoolnix | yes | easy to maintain, but I don't use it

Nowadays I don't use it so much, but I know it. I can maintain them... just, how do you know about new releases? There is no ML, news RSS or anything similar. I just set the osc overview plugin for mkvtoolnix from Freshmeat, but there is no info available for the libraries.

I can add the metadata to the database behind osc gnome, if you want. "osc gnome todo" will let you know when there's an update, and you could even use "osc gnome update" to do a good part of the update to a new upstream version.

I didn't test it until now, but looks really good. The tarballs are at http://dl.matroska.org/downloads/libmatroska/ http://dl.matroska.org/downloads/libebml/ http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/sources/ without odd version numbers are unstable or anything similar, all versions are good. How does it exactly looks for new versions? It lists all the contents of the URL and compares? What if the server doesn't allows to list? It can parse HTML source for the string? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Vincent Untz

15:09

Le jeudi 20 août 2009, à 16:59 +0200, Cristian Morales Vega a écrit :

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2009/8/20 Vincent Untz :

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I can add the metadata to the database behind osc gnome, if you want. "osc gnome todo" will let you know when there's an update, and you could even use "osc gnome update" to do a good part of the update to a new upstream version.

I didn't test it until now, but looks really good. The tarballs are at http://dl.matroska.org/downloads/libmatroska/ http://dl.matroska.org/downloads/libebml/ http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/sources/

without odd version numbers are unstable or anything similar, all versions are good.

Okay, will add. Just to clear any confusion: are you sure you don't want odd version numbers for libebml? 0.6.5 was released in 2004 and the last one is 0.7.8. (Same question for libmatroska, actually)

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How does it exactly looks for new versions? It lists all the contents of the URL and compares? What if the server doesn't allows to list? It can parse HTML source for the string?

It looks at all URLs in the webpage, removes the ones that don't look like URLs to tarballs for the module you're interested in, and then compare the versions of the remaining stuff. At the moment, versions like 0.3a won't work, but that should be fixable. (this is the most basic fetcher; there's a fetcher for sourceforge that does all the right magic, one for google code, one for launchpad, etc.) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Cristian Morales Vega

15:24

2009/8/20 Vincent Untz :

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Le jeudi 20 août 2009, à 16:59 +0200, Cristian Morales Vega a écrit :

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2009/8/20 Vincent Untz :

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I can add the metadata to the database behind osc gnome, if you want. "osc gnome todo" will let you know when there's an update, and you could even use "osc gnome update" to do a good part of the update to a new upstream version.

I didn't test it until now, but looks really good. The tarballs are at http://dl.matroska.org/downloads/libmatroska/ http://dl.matroska.org/downloads/libebml/ http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/sources/

without odd version numbers are unstable or anything similar, all versions are good.

Okay, will add. Just to clear any confusion: are you sure you don't want odd version numbers for libebml? 0.6.5 was released in 2004 and the last one is 0.7.8. (Same question for libmatroska, actually)

No, I meant: without "odd version numbers are unstable" or anything similar, all versions are good. I want all versions, 0.7.x inclusive, I just tried to say explicitly that there are no special version schemes. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Vincent Untz

15:37

Le jeudi 20 août 2009, à 17:24 +0200, Cristian Morales Vega a écrit :

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No, I meant: without "odd version numbers are unstable" or anything similar, all versions are good.

Ah, I misunderstood. Okay, I've set up everything. It might take some time to appear in the database (and therefore in osc gnome), as the metadata is sync'ed once a day, and we look for the upstream versions once a day too. (or maybe Magnus will be nice and sync the metadata earlier ;-)) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Stefan Seyfried

18:38

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:37:36 +0200 Vincent Untz wrote:

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Le jeudi 20 août 2009, à 17:24 +0200, Cristian Morales Vega a écrit :

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No, I meant: without "odd version numbers are unstable" or anything similar, all versions are good.

Ah, I misunderstood. Okay, I've set up everything. It might take some time to appear in the database (and therefore in osc gnome), as the metadata is sync'ed once a day, and we look for the upstream versions once a day too.

For testing: it should complain about mkvtoolnix being too old (2.9.8 was released 7 days ago, but 2.9.7 is still in Factory). The libs should be OK IIRC. -- Stefan Seyfried R&D Preload Department | "Any ideas, John?" SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nürnberg | "Well, surrounding them's out." This footer brought to you by insane German lawmakers: SUSE Linux Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Cristian Morales Vega

21 Aug 21 Aug

06:02

2009/8/20 Stefan Seyfried :

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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:37:36 +0200 Vincent Untz wrote:

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Le jeudi 20 août 2009, à 17:24 +0200, Cristian Morales Vega a écrit :

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No, I meant: without "odd version numbers are unstable" or anything similar, all versions are good.

Ah, I misunderstood. Okay, I've set up everything. It might take some time to appear in the database (and therefore in osc gnome), as the metadata is sync'ed once a day, and we look for the upstream versions once a day too.

For testing: it should complain about mkvtoolnix being too old (2.9.8 was released 7 days ago, but 2.9.7 is still in Factory). The libs should be OK IIRC.

Yes, libraries are updated. MKVToolnix is outdated but since we are already in version freeze isn't so important. And... nearly works. Correctly notes the package is outdated... $ osc gnome todo --project=multimedia:apps Package | openSUSE:Factory | multimedia:apps | Upstream -----------+------------------+------------------+----------------- mkvtoolnix | 2.9.7 | 2.9.7 | 2.9.8 ripit | 3.6.0 | 3.6.0 | 3.7.0 snd | 10.7 | 10.7 | 10.8 tvbrowser | 2.7.2 | 2.7.2 | 2.7.4 xine-lib | 1.1.16.1 | 1.1.16.1 | 1.1.16.3 But fails to download the new tarball... $ osc gnome update --project=multimedia:apps mkvtoolnix Package mkvtoolnix has been reserved for 36 hours. Do not forget to unreserve the package when done with it: osc gnome unreserve mkvtoolnix A /home/reddwarf/OBS/aa/mkvtoolnix A /home/reddwarf/OBS/aa/mkvtoolnix/mkvtoolnix-2.5.1-guide-install.diff A /home/reddwarf/OBS/aa/mkvtoolnix/mkvtoolnix-2.9.7.tar.bz2 A /home/reddwarf/OBS/aa/mkvtoolnix/mkvtoolnix.changes A /home/reddwarf/OBS/aa/mkvtoolnix/mkvtoolnix.spec A /home/reddwarf/OBS/aa/mkvtoolnix/ready Package mkvtoolnix has been checked out. WARNING: the Source tag in mkvtoolnix/mkvtoolnix.spec is using some define that might not be valid anymore. mkvtoolnix.spec has been prepared. mkvtoolnix.changes has been prepared. Looking for the upstream tarball... Cannot download http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/sources/?path=&download=mkvtoolnix-2.9.8.tar.bz2: no basename in URL. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Vincent Untz

09:16

Le vendredi 21 août 2009, à 08:02 +0200, Cristian Morales Vega a écrit :

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Cannot download http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/sources/?path=&download=mkvtoolnix-2.9.8.tar.bz2: no basename in URL.

Ah, interesting case. I've committed a workaround to git. You can apply the patch locally, if you want (see attachment). Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés.

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