"Dominique Leuenberger" wrote:

I assume as 'standard' you mean the repository of the released product?

Yes. "Main Repository (OSS)"

All updates have to come from either a BS repository or from the openSUSE-update channel (but even there: there is hardly ever a version upgrade; only security fixes).

Thanks for the explanation. You confirmed what I've already noticed - update repository is "stable to death", so user have to track many BS repos to get fairly up to date system. Maybe I'm spoiled by other distros where update repositories use to get real updates (which often happens to be really important). But OK, I can live with that... :-) -- Krzysztof Kotlenga --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

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On 12/13/2007 at 3:35 PM, Krzysztof Kotlenga wrote: All updates have to come from either a BS repository or from the openSUSE-update channel (but even there: there is hardly ever a version upgrade; only security fixes).

Thanks for the explanation. You confirmed what I've already noticed - update repository is "stable to death", so user have to track many BS repos to get fairly up to date system. Maybe I'm spoiled by other distros where update repositories use to get real updates (which often happens to be really important). But OK, I can live with that... :-)

That's at least a decision the user can go for himself; a newer version does not always mean less problems. But if you want to be on the bleeding edge, Factory is the right one ;) but there you should be aware: you get all the nice and new naughty things: be prepared to not have the system usable once in a while. Dominique -- TMF is a global management and accounting outsourcing firm with 77 offices in 60 countries and over 2,500 professionals (2007). TMF is expanding rapidly throughout the world. Learn more about our unique network and our services and visit our website at www.tmf-group.com. The information contained in this e-mail communication is confidential and solely intended for the person to whom it is addressed. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to notify the sender and to destroy the original e-mail communication. TMF is neither liable for the correct and complete transmission of the information contained in this e-mail communication nor for any delay in its receipt. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been checked for the presence of computer viruses. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 13 December 2007 15:17:23 wrote Krzysztof Kotlenga:

"Dominique Leuenberger" wrote:

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That's at least a decision the user can go for himself; a newer version does not always mean less problems. But if you want to be on the bleeding edge, Factory is the right one ;) but there you should be aware: you get all the nice and new naughty things: be prepared to not have the system usable once in a while.

I agree. For now I'll stick with 10.3 + some nice BS repos like xorg73 or KDE:Backports, as I believe it's some kind of middle between "stable" and bleeding edge.

About main/standard/oss repo being poor - I mean, there are not many packages. People I convinced to openSUSE look at me angrily when I say "Well, you have to add this BS repo to install blah blah because it's not included in main". Why is that?

The main repo has higher limits regarding the code. These packages need a review by the packager and support for two years. This can't be done easily. In the past this was really a pity, because adding further repos was hard. But I think this became much better with 10.3, with the 1-click installation caring about that and the additional recommended community repos.

Do packages from BS finally find their way into main distribution? Or maybe only some of them? If yes, who decides which packages are more important than the others? AFAIK, main repository is maintained only by SUSE/Novell employees?

Only packages submitted to openSUSE:Factory does this. We work in the next month on a mechanism allowing to push updates to any other project (including openSUSE:Factory). But decision what will be included in openSUSE main distro is up to the release master (Stephan Kulow). bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) email: adrian@suse.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org