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Sascha 'saigkill' Manns

3 Apr 2010 3 Apr '10

23:00

Hello Mates, Satoru and I have created an proposal for an new Content/Layout for the Weekly News. It is placed in the Talk Site. http://en.opensuse.org/Talk:OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/NewTemplate1 What do you mean about this Proposal? -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

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Shayon Mukherjee

4 Apr 4 Apr

05:50

On 04/04/2010 04:30 AM, Sascha 'saigkill' Manns wrote:

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Hello Mates,

Satoru and I have created an proposal for an new Content/Layout for the Weekly News. It is placed in the Talk Site. http://en.opensuse.org/Talk:OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/NewTemplate1

What do you mean about this Proposal?

Hello , This looks good , well what i feel is that the 'Credits' section is not required in all the releases instead mention it at one place say at the front/main page , if the contributors are same.If not then i guess it would be problem but this is just my personal opinion. Keep up the good work ! ;) -- Regards, SJ(Shayon) openSUSE http://en.opensuse.org/User:Wwarlock Twitter: ShayonM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

S.Kemter

14:43

Hello, I dont know, when I make a thing new I use my head and think how its the best way. I find it very funny to publish the headlines in news.o.o and the own in the wiki. I find it funny that there is a link to the rss feed of the news.o.o and I could read it there. Thats not true a can read a ugly looking teaser ther nothing more! A wiki is a platform for working collaborative on things nothing more it isnt the best way to publish things like the own. The usabilitiy of that is more and more ugly. See the attachment what I see when I surfing to the page. Make more and more categories make the own not better br gnokii Am Sonntag, den 04.04.2010, 11:20 +0530 schrieb Shayon Mukherjee:

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On 04/04/2010 04:30 AM, Sascha 'saigkill' Manns wrote:

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Hello Mates,

Satoru and I have created an proposal for an new Content/Layout for the Weekly News. It is placed in the Talk Site. http://en.opensuse.org/Talk:OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/NewTemplate1

What do you mean about this Proposal?

Hello , This looks good , well what i feel is that the 'Credits' section is not required in all the releases instead mention it at one place say at the front/main page , if the contributors are same.If not then i guess it would be problem but this is just my personal opinion.

Keep up the good work ! ;)

-- Regards, SJ(Shayon) openSUSE http://en.opensuse.org/User:Wwarlock Twitter: ShayonM

Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier

14:46

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 10:43 AM, S.Kemter wrote:

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A wiki is a platform for working collaborative on things nothing more it isnt the best way to publish things like the own.

Other distros put out their weekly news via email, I believe. Certainly Debian does. I'm pretty sure I've mentioned that before, but... really, if the idea is to spread the news far and wide, the best scheme in my opinion would be to do the work on the wiki & then put into openSUSE News + send out via email. Just a thought. Best, Zonker -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

S.Kemter

14:53

Am Sonntag, den 04.04.2010, 10:46 -0400 schrieb Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier:

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On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 10:43 AM, S.Kemter wrote:

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A wiki is a platform for working collaborative on things nothing more it isnt the best way to publish things like the own.

Other distros put out their weekly news via email, I believe. Certainly Debian does.

I'm pretty sure I've mentioned that before, but... really, if the idea is to spread the news far and wide, the best scheme in my opinion would be to do the work on the wiki & then put into openSUSE News + send out via email.

We have spoken about this before, the best way isnt to put it in the wiki. The wiki provides no RSS feeds the best way ist to put it on news.o.o and send it via mail. That maybe spreads a little bit wider because, it lands on feedreader and on the planet also ;) But it is important to think about that before the other steps ;) br gnokii

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Just a thought.

Best,

Zonker

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Sascha 'saigkill' Manns

17:39

Am Sonntag, 4. April 2010 16:43:51 wrote S.Kemter:

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I dont know, when I make a thing new I use my head and think how its the best way. I find it very funny to publish the headlines in news.o.o and the own in the wiki. I find it funny that there is a link to the rss feed of the news.o.o and I could read it there. Thats not true a can read a ugly looking teaser ther nothing more!

A wiki is a platform for working collaborative on things nothing more it isnt the best way to publish things like the own. An option is, that we just preparing the Weekly News inside the Wiki (collaborative editing) and if the issue is ready, we publishing that inside news.o.o. What do you mean about that?

-- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

Sascha 'saigkill' Manns

22:31

Am Sonntag, 4. April 2010 19:39:19 wrote Sascha 'saigkill' Manns:

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Am Sonntag, 4. April 2010 16:43:51 wrote S.Kemter:

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I dont know, when I make a thing new I use my head and think how its the best way. I find it very funny to publish the headlines in news.o.o and the own in the wiki. I find it funny that there is a link to the rss feed of the news.o.o and I could read it there. Thats not true a can read a ugly looking teaser ther nothing more!

A wiki is a platform for working collaborative on things nothing more it isnt the best way to publish things like the own.

An option is, that we just preparing the Weekly News inside the Wiki (collaborative editing) and if the issue is ready, we publishing that inside news.o.o. But if we preparing the own in the wiki we can't use the Wiki Code for news.o.o. <thought>Maybe we can preparing own maybe in services like etherpad. After finishing we can port the Text into news.o.o.</thought>

Any other Proposals or Ideas? -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

Joe Brockmeier

22:51

On Apr 4, 2010, at 6:31 PM, "Sascha 'saigkill' Manns" wrote:

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Am Sonntag, 4. April 2010 19:39:19 wrote Sascha 'saigkill' Manns:

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Am Sonntag, 4. April 2010 16:43:51 wrote S.Kemter:

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I dont know, when I make a thing new I use my head and think how its the best way. I find it very funny to publish the headlines in news.o.o and the own in the wiki. I find it funny that there is a link to the rss feed of the news.o.o and I could read it there. Thats not true a can read a ugly looking teaser ther nothing more!

A wiki is a platform for working collaborative on things nothing more it isnt the best way to publish things like the own.

An option is, that we just preparing the Weekly News inside the Wiki (collaborative editing) and if the issue is ready, we publishing that inside news.o.o. But if we preparing the own in the wiki we can't use the Wiki Code for news.o.o. <thought>Maybe we can preparing own maybe in services like etherpad. After finishing we can port the Text into news.o.o.</thought>

Any other Proposals or Ideas?

Why not just view source in Firefox after it's done? Best, Zonker

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-- Sincerely yours

Sascha Manns openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team

Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com

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Sascha 'saigkill' Manns

23:02

Am Montag, 5. April 2010 00:51:59 wrote Joe Brockmeier:

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On Apr 4, 2010, at 6:31 PM, "Sascha 'saigkill' Manns" wrote:

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Am Sonntag, 4. April 2010 19:39:19 wrote Sascha 'saigkill' Manns:

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Am Sonntag, 4. April 2010 16:43:51 wrote S.Kemter:

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I dont know, when I make a thing new I use my head and think how its the best way. I find it very funny to publish the headlines in news.o.o and the own in the wiki. I find it funny that there is a link to the rss feed of the news.o.o and I could read it there. Thats not true a can read a ugly looking teaser ther nothing more!

A wiki is a platform for working collaborative on things nothing more it isnt the best way to publish things like the own.

An option is, that we just preparing the Weekly News inside the Wiki (collaborative editing) and if the issue is ready, we publishing that inside news.o.o.

But if we preparing the own in the wiki we can't use the Wiki Code for news.o.o. <thought>Maybe we can preparing own maybe in services like etherpad. After finishing we can port the Text into news.o.o.</thought>

Any other Proposals or Ideas?

Why not just view source in Firefox after it's done? Thats a better idea :-)

Sascha 'saigkill' Manns

23:12

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On Apr 4, 2010, at 6:31 PM, "Sascha 'saigkill' Manns" wrote:

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Am Sonntag, 4. April 2010 19:39:19 wrote Sascha 'saigkill' Manns:

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Am Sonntag, 4. April 2010 16:43:51 wrote S.Kemter:

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I dont know, when I make a thing new I use my head and think how its the best way. I find it very funny to publish the headlines in news.o.o and the own in the wiki. I find it funny that there is a link to the rss feed of the news.o.o and I could read it there. Thats not true a can read a ugly looking teaser ther nothing more!

A wiki is a platform for working collaborative on things nothing more it isnt the best way to publish things like the own.

An option is, that we just preparing the Weekly News inside the Wiki (collaborative editing) and if the issue is ready, we publishing that inside news.o.o.

But if we preparing the own in the wiki we can't use the Wiki Code for news.o.o. <thought>Maybe we can preparing own maybe in services like etherpad. After finishing we can port the Text into news.o.o.</thought>

Any other Proposals or Ideas?

Why not just view source in Firefox after it's done? That i've tried out. But in the Source View i'm getting the Codes from

Am Montag, 5. April 2010 00:51:59 wrote Joe Brockmeier: the Rest-Site too. So it is more work then before. -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier

23:19

.On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Sascha 'saigkill' Manns wrote:

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Why not just view source in Firefox after it's done? That i've tried out. But in the Source View i'm getting the Codes from the Rest-Site too. So it is more work then before.

You should be able to just get the News itself by selecting the text you want and using "View Selection Source" from Firefox's context menu. But, it might be a bit complex. Still -- in the long run I think publishing on the wiki is sub-optimal. Best, Zonker -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

Sascha 'saigkill' Manns

23:18

Am Montag, 5. April 2010 00:31:01 wrote Sascha 'saigkill' Manns:

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Am Sonntag, 4. April 2010 19:39:19 wrote Sascha 'saigkill' Manns:

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Am Sonntag, 4. April 2010 16:43:51 wrote S.Kemter:

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I dont know, when I make a thing new I use my head and think how its the best way. I find it very funny to publish the headlines in news.o.o and the own in the wiki. I find it funny that there is a link to the rss feed of the news.o.o and I could read it there. Thats not true a can read a ugly looking teaser ther nothing more!

A wiki is a platform for working collaborative on things nothing more it isnt the best way to publish things like the own.

An option is, that we just preparing the Weekly News inside the Wiki (collaborative editing) and if the issue is ready, we publishing that inside news.o.o.

But if we preparing the own in the wiki we can't use the Wiki Code for news.o.o. <thought>Maybe we can preparing own maybe in services like etherpad. After finishing we can port the Text into news.o.o.</thought>

Any other Proposals or Ideas? I've just tried out google docs. https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AR3sI9asSsSvZGhodnhtOTJfMGhmcDU5amNm&hl=en

That would be an Option. But minus is, that the Editors all must have an Google Account. -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

S.Kemter

5 Apr 5 Apr

10:29

Hello,

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But if we preparing the own in the wiki we can't use the Wiki Code for news.o.o. <thought>Maybe we can preparing own maybe in services like etherpad. After finishing we can port the Text into news.o.o.</thought>

It looks like u have a big problem to do things in a other way only copy and paste br gnokii

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Any other Proposals or Ideas?

-- Sincerely yours

Sascha Manns openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team

Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com

Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English)

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LinuxFan TH

11:19

Hi all together! I have some notes according to the new design of the openSUSE Weekly News. I think that the big logo on top of the site is not appropriate for a web page. It would be better to locate it e.g. top right and decrease its size. Moreover I am missing the past AND upcoming events. I do not want to divide them but to look e.g. only for upcoming ones. It would be great to categorize them in two different sections. Moreover it would be good to have an extra section for Ambassador Events. But all in all, I like the new design. I also like the criticized links beneath the events because the WN are only published once a week, so there could be differences... Regards, TH / Okuro Oikawa ### openSUSE Ambassador ### ### Member of the openSUSE Marketing Team ### ### Translator of the openSUSE Weekly News ### ### Writer of the openSUSE News (Event-Editor) ### ### http://en.opensuse.org/User:Okuro ### ### http://linuxokuro.wordpress.com/ ### -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

Henne Vogelsang

17:35

Hi, On 04/05/2010 12:31 AM, Sascha 'saigkill' Manns wrote:

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Am Sonntag, 4. April 2010 19:39:19 wrote Sascha 'saigkill' Manns:

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Am Sonntag, 4. April 2010 16:43:51 wrote S.Kemter:

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I dont know, when I make a thing new I use my head and think how its the best way. I find it very funny to publish the headlines in news.o.o and the own in the wiki. I find it funny that there is a link to the rss feed of the news.o.o and I could read it there. Thats not true a can read a ugly looking teaser ther nothing more!

A wiki is a platform for working collaborative on things nothing more it isnt the best way to publish things like the own.

An option is, that we just preparing the Weekly News inside the Wiki (collaborative editing) and if the issue is ready, we publishing that inside news.o.o.

But if we preparing the own in the wiki we can't use the Wiki Code for news.o.o.

You can just copy and paste the wiki page into the wordpress visual editor and it will look/work just fine. I always asked myself why you guys don't do that. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

Satoru Matsumoto

08:10

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [opensuse-marketing] RfC: New Content/Layout for Weekly News From: Sascha 'saigkill' Manns To: opensuse-marketing@opensuse.org Date: Mon Apr 05 2010 02:39:19 GMT+0900 (JST)

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Am Sonntag, 4. April 2010 16:43:51 wrote S.Kemter:

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I dont know, when I make a thing new I use my head and think how its the best way. I find it very funny to publish the headlines in news.o.o and the own in the wiki. I find it funny that there is a link to the rss feed of the news.o.o and I could read it there. Thats not true a can read a ugly looking teaser ther nothing more!

A wiki is a platform for working collaborative on things nothing more it isnt the best way to publish things like the own. An option is, that we just preparing the Weekly News inside the Wiki (collaborative editing) and if the issue is ready, we publishing that inside news.o.o. What do you mean about that?

What is the best (or, better than as it is now, at least) structure / layout for OWN ? What kind of articles / informations should OWN provide ? Where is the best place to publish OWN ? -- Those depend on what we think the main role and purpose of OWN are. And as I made out several times in the past, there's a little difference between the role and purpose of original English OWN and which of translated OWN. Let's look at the role and purpose of original English OWN first. We can see the definition of the role and purpose of OWN at: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News <quote> The aim of the newsletter is to summarize all the finer details occurring in and around the openSUSE Community. Recurring topics include: ... http://blog.geeko.jp/author/heliosreds _/_/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

Sascha 'saigkill' Manns

4 Apr 4 Apr

17:36

Am Sonntag, 4. April 2010 07:50:14 wrote Shayon Mukherjee:

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On 04/04/2010 04:30 AM, Sascha 'saigkill' Manns wrote:

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Hello Mates,

Satoru and I have created an proposal for an new Content/Layout for the Weekly News. It is placed in the Talk Site. http://en.opensuse.org/Talk:OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/NewTemplate1

What do you mean about this Proposal?

Hello , This looks good , well what i feel is that the 'Credits' section is not required in all the releases instead mention it at one place say at the front/main page , if the contributors are same.If not then i guess it would be problem but this is just my personal opinion. I share your opinion to make the Idea with the Credits in not every issue. Just a thought: In launchpad i've seen that some teams are placed there, and linked from the wiki to that team page. Maybe we can join the connect group Weekly News, and linking just to that page. Then we can see the whole team... -- Sincerely yours

Sascha Manns openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

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