Sorry for bad english, but, resuming: +/- 23:20 (GMT -4): No=8, Yes=3 23:40 No=3, Yes=11 On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Raul Libório wrote:

When I voted, I was not winning by a 8-3, I give later and the score was 11-3 for the YES. Pool edited? tsc tsc tsc...

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Bruno Friedmann wrote:

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To achieve somewhat our effort to consolidate communication, you certainly remember the fact that we want to merge some of mailing lists.

I've seen a lot of cross-posting between here and project, and most of our actions need also more people involved. Beside the fact that will avoid cross-posting, and so minimize the number of replicated messages you & I can receive and then need to read/archive/reply/delete and so free some of our precious time.

I would propose then that when we need a specific topic for our workgroup we just add [marketing] tag on the subject line.

So I open a poll on connect to know what we want to do http://goo.gl/9hcYp

Please vote before 1st March Thanks

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"There are only 10 types of people in the world - Those who understand binary, and those who don't."

-- Raul Libório http://rauhmaru.blogspot.com/ rauhmarutsªhotmailºcom  openSUSE Member | Linux User #4444581 "There are only 10 types of people in the world - Those who understand binary, and those who don't." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org

On 02/16/2012 02:42 AM, Raul Libório wrote:

Sorry for bad english, but, resuming: +/- 23:20 (GMT -4): No=8, Yes=3 23:40 No=3, Yes=11

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Raul Libório wrote:

...

When I voted, I was not winning by a 8-3, I give later and the score was 11-3 for the YES. Pool edited? tsc tsc tsc...

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Bruno Friedmann wrote:

...

To achieve somewhat our effort to consolidate communication, you certainly remember the fact that we want to merge some of mailing lists.

I've seen a lot of cross-posting between here and project, and most of our actions need also more people involved. Beside the fact that will avoid cross-posting, and so minimize the number of replicated messages you & I can receive and then need to read/archive/reply/delete and so free some of our precious time.

I would propose then that when we need a specific topic for our workgroup we just add [marketing] tag on the subject line.

So I open a poll on connect to know what we want to do http://goo.gl/9hcYp

Please vote before 1st March Thanks

--

Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch

openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org

-- Raul Libório

http://rauhmaru.blogspot.com/ rauhmarutsªhotmailºcom openSUSE Member | Linux User #4444581

"There are only 10 types of people in the world - Those who understand binary, and those who don't."

Raul didn't you mix the two polls ? As I now I didn't edit them (why would I do that?) And unfortunately, marketing seems to stay away from project :-( !!! Please only reply to the mailing list !!!! Yeah I know with some mail client you have to edit the to & cc field, but do it! -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org

Bruno, On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Bruno Friedmann wrote:

Raul didn't you mix the two polls ? Yup, I did it :(

Merge ambassadors + Marketing https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/bruno_friedmann/15755/do-you-agre... Merge Marketing + Project https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/bruno_friedmann/15752/do-you-agre... Actually, I did confusion. And sorry Bruno. -- Raul Libório http://rauhmaru.blogspot.com/ rauhmarutsªhotmailºcom  openSUSE Member | Linux User #4444581 "There are only 10 types of people in the world - Those who understand binary, and those who don't." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Bryen M Yunashko wrote:

On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 20:00 +0100, Bruno Friedmann wrote:

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To achieve somewhat our effort to consolidate communication, you certainly remember the fact that we want to merge some of mailing lists.

I've seen a lot of cross-posting between here and project, and most of our actions need also more people involved. Beside the fact that will avoid cross-posting, and so minimize the number of replicated messages you & I can receive and then need to read/archive/reply/delete and so free some of our precious time.

I would propose then that when we need a specific topic for our workgroup we just add [marketing] tag on the subject line.

So I open a poll on connect to know what we want to do http://goo.gl/9hcYp

Please vote before 1st March Thanks

--

Bruno Friedmann

While I'm one of those who agrees we need to consolidate more of our lists, I am only in favor of merging similar-functioning.  That is, I favor the merge of ambassador + marketing.

I am not in favor of merging marketing with project.  While there are times when some topics do overlap, in general, the definition of project and marketing are different and -project is much more related to the governance of openSUSE Project.

Excessive consolidation will create too much noise, imo, and turn people off.

Furthermore, you are posing this question to the marketing list only. If we are proposing to "move into another house", then shouldn't this question also be asked to the -project mailing list?  Its only fair that they be asked too.

Another thing, don't rely that people will follow a prefix-rule like "Ambassador: <subject-line>."   It will never be consistent.

And one final thing, some lists, and I believe -marketing is one of them, allow for people to send emails even if they are not subscribed. There are good reasons for that depending on the list's function.  (I know artwork and news@ does this.)  If we move to -project, do we re-define how people can send mails to -project too?

Again, I agree with merging ambassador + marketing.  I don't agree with marketing + project.  That will be more harm than good.

My two cents, Bryen M Yunashko openSUSE Project

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