On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 08:47 -0300, Ricardo Varas Santana wrote:

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:58 AM, Ricardo Chung wrote:

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Maybe it is possible to mention openSUSE a few days before and version 11.4 the release day. What do you think ?

Regards,

Maybe another good idea would be to include, one week before release, short marketing lines referencing the project, like "get it", "build it", "create it", "share it", "the grass is greener", or something like that.

Oh, yes, Ricardo Varas, I would love to add those words or similar short marketing lines time to time over each counter phase ( monthly, weekly, days, hours ) Just the concept or something like this, Two months before: "Close It" One month before: "Discover It" Four weeks before: "Share It" Three weeks before: "Greener" Two weeks before: "Live It" One week before: "Build It" Days before: "Get It Release day: "openSUSE 11.4 is Here for You" What do you think, it would be too much overhead ? Maybe less words but the concept is a perceptual hook (small bait to keep people alert for what is coming up). Three action verbs afterward an attribute. Then three action verbs and the product.

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On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 22:11 +0100, Pascal Bleser wrote:

On 2011-01-04 08:35:02 (-0500), Ricardo Chung wrote:

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On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 08:47 -0300, Ricardo Varas Santana wrote:

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Maybe it is possible to mention openSUSE a few days before and version 11.4 the release day. What do you think ? Maybe another good idea would be to include, one week before release, short marketing lines referencing the project, like "get it", "build it", "create it", "share it", "the grass is greener", or something

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:58 AM, Ricardo Chung wrote: like that. Oh, yes, Ricardo Varas, I would love to add those words or similar short marketing lines time to time over each counter phase ( monthly, weekly, days, hours )

Just the concept or something like this, Two months before: "Close It" One month before: "Discover It" Four weeks before: "Share It" Three weeks before: "Greener" Two weeks before: "Live It" One week before: "Build It" Days before: "Get It Release day: "openSUSE 11.4 is Here for You"

What do you think, it would be too much overhead ? Maybe less words but the concept is a perceptual hook (small bait to keep people alert for what is coming up). Three action verbs afterward an attribute. Then three action verbs and the product.

Can be done as well, but then I'd need to have the translations of all that in ~20 languages ;)) (or we do it only in English, but that would be sad)

cheers

Let's wait for two more days for other people comments about these ideas in different languages. Maybe someone can give us a lead over these issues without that much overhead but very effective campaign. I can translate it to Spanish but know not much about subtle interpretations in other 18 languages. And it needs keeping short and triggering phrases. Cheers, -- Ricardo Chung | openSUSE Linux Ambassador Panama Testing openSUSE 11.4 M5|Gnome 2.32.1|KDE 4.6 Beta2|Mesa-Nouveau 3D -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

On Wednesday, January 05, 2011 05:42:29 am Ricardo Varas Santana wrote:

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Pascal Bleser ...

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Can be done as well, but then I'd need to have the translations of all that in ~20 languages ;)) (or we do it only in english, but that would be sad) ...

If there is no ~20 languages to translate the message then let's do it in the most representative languages, like Spanish, English, German, French, and so. Seems cool to me.

That is how we should go with everything that needs translation. If there is translation, use it, if not, what to do, that's life. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

On Wednesday, January 05, 2011 09:57:36 PM Rajko M. wrote:

On Wednesday, January 05, 2011 05:42:29 am Ricardo Varas Santana wrote:

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On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Pascal Bleser

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Can be done as well, but then I'd need to have the translations of all that in ~20 languages ;)) (or we do it only in english, but that would be sad)

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If there is no ~20 languages to translate the message then let's do it in the most representative languages, like Spanish, English, German, French, and so. Seems cool to me.

That is how we should go with everything that needs translation. If there is translation, use it, if not, what to do, that's life.

OK, we are not hearing other language voices so let's start with people who are stepping in. If no objections to those triggering phrases. Salute, -- Ricardo Chung | openSUSE Linux Ambassador Testing version 11.4 Milestone 5, KDE 4.6 Beta 2, Mesa-Nouveau 3D -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

On 2011-01-04 00:58:08 (-0500), Ricardo Chung wrote:

On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 03:06 +0100, Pascal Bleser wrote:

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Here is the current working draft: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2940942/11.4/index.html

Feedback please ;)

And before you ask why it doesn't mention "11.4" or even "openSUSE" at all: well, that was the idea for previous counters, to not mention anything beyond the "X days left" to trigger people's curiosity.

Obviously, from the release day on, the counter will indeed mention it's openSUSE 11.4 as well as our motto.

I like the way it shows days left with geeko behind and nothing else. As you said it will trigger people's curiosity to know what is coming up.

Maybe it is possible to mention openSUSE a few days before and version 11.4 the release day. What do you think ?

Can be done. The way it works, from a technical perspective is that I have SVG templates (one for each size, 400x400, 256x256, 130x130 and the wide one), and a Python script that assesses the current timestamp and how many days are left until the release. It then replaces placeholders in the SVGs and uses Inkscape to render them as PNGs in batch. Those PNGs are rendered once a day through a cron job and uploaded to counter.opensuse.org. So there is no problem to make another set of SVG templates that include a bit more information and which will be used automagically, e.g., one or two weeks before the release. It's already what happens when there are only a few hours left, it switches to other SVGs that say "T-XX", and obviously another SVG once the release is out. -- -o) Pascal Bleser /\\ http://opensuse.org -- I took the green pill _\_v FOSDEM XI: 5 + 6 Feb 2011, http://fosdem.org

Great work really but on Greek Edition there is a mistake. you wrote: 71 περισσότερες μέρες but the correct is Μόνο 71 μέρες ακόμη I translated at google and it does not make sense but in Greek it does,someone at Google messed those 2 words. Generally in Greek do not trust automatic translations... Please make the correction, other than that, I believe you made a great work and of course we need it officially ASAP Kostas 2011/1/4 Bruno Friedmann :

On 01/04/2011 03:06 AM, Pascal Bleser wrote:

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Here is the current working draft: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2940942/11.4/index.html

Feedback please ;)

And before you ask why it doesn't mention "11.4" or even "openSUSE" at all: well, that was the idea for previous counters, to not mention anything beyond the "X days left" to trigger people's curiosity.

Obviously, from the release day on, the counter will indeed mention it's openSUSE 11.4 as well as our motto.

cheers

Loving it !

We need it officially as soon as possible !

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Am Dienstag 04 Januar 2011, 14:09:25 schrieb Pascal Bleser:

On 2011-01-04 10:45:25 (+0200), Kostas Koudaras wrote:

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Great work really but on Greek Edition there is a mistake. you wrote: 71 περισσότερες μέρες but the correct is Μόνο 71 μέρες ακόμη I translated at google and it does not make sense but in Greek it does,someone at Google messed those 2 words. Generally in Greek do not trust automatic translations... Please make the correction, other than that, I believe you made a great work and of course we need it officially ASAP

Okay, better like this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2940942/11.4/large.el.png

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cheers

Sorry but I changed the license of my work, so dont use it! br gnokii -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

Am Dienstag 04 Januar 2011, 21:41:03 schrieb Pascal Bleser:

On 2011-01-04 16:23:00 (+0100), S.Kemter wrote: [...]

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Sorry but I changed the license of my work, so dont use it!

That's okay, because you change it afterwards so I won't use your future changes.

Sorry we dont talk about software

And as far as I know, the background isn't from you.

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