On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 11:10 -0700, R. Tyler Ballance wrote:

On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Chuck Payne wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:34 PM, R. Tyler Ballance wrote:

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One of the results of today's team meeting was the finalization of the Marketing Liaison page: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Marketing_liaison

I mentioned to AJ it would be helpful if we had the following resources/guides enumerated in the Marketing portal somewhere:

* How-to interact with the Weekly Newsletter team regarding your team/project * Tips for announcing releases/submitting content to news.o.o * ??

Anything else I'm missing that would be helpful for those of us new to the marketing team?

So what is the difference between Ambassador and liason? Do you have to be a developer to be one?

From my understanding of the two initiatives:

* Ambassadors help with events, LUGs and promote openSUSE in their communities

* Liaisons are part-time volunteers with the marketing team that work with specific sub-projects inside the openSUSE project, such as Smeegol, OBS, GNOME, LXDE, KDE, etc, helping get news and information to the broader openSUSE user-base about "what's going on" with the specific project

I don't think they're mutually exclusive, but they're not the same thing either IMHO.

Cheers, -R. Tyler Ballance

RTyler is correct. It is a function within the marketing team in which someone volunteers to be a subject matter expert on some sub-group of the openSUSE Project. The fact of the matter is, none of us can be all-knowing about everything happening in the project. But if people volunteer to be the "eye" on specific projects, we can rely on that person to inform us when there is something important the Marketing Team should be promoting. Such as, a new release of OBS, or interesting things going on in the KDE team, or something like that. The Liaison is not exactly a public-facing role like the Ambassador program is. It is simply someone becoming subject matter expert in a specific field so that we have someone on our team we can rely on to give us information. I'll work to clarify this in the page in the coming days. Thanks for bringing this up! Bryen M Yunashko openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Marketing Team lead -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

Moin S.Kemter! S.Kemter schrieb am Dienstag, den 10. August 2010:

Hello,

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One of the results of today's team meeting was the finalization of the Marketing Liaison page: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Marketing_liaison

I am very sure that not the finalization, was the output of the meeting.

You're right, that was poor wording on my part, I really meant the "introduction" of the page :P I can't really parse the rest of your comments, other than the general disagreement with the notion of liaisons.

It was more if it necessary to create such a thing like "Marketing Liason"

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[17:45] <AJaeger> #action suseROCKs to start discussion about Liasion on mailing list and ask for comments

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I am completly against it because it helps not to improve our marketing. On the contrary it makes it more obscure.

Ppl wont ask whats the difference between Ambassador and this liason, some say a Ambassador does it only in a region. Then I have to say some of ur Ambassadors think they can do anything from her chair.

It helps not to improve the marketing for special projects in the project or subprojects it makes things only more complicated.

The only reason is to get better informed whats going on in this parts of openSUSE.

So as the marketing team was reinvented, I asked for an inventur of ur marketing tools. But it never happend, its how all things in openSUSE happend better bring new tools as improve the old.

So now big fat question how did the OWN team observe the subprojects???? They didnt, its like before only copy & paste some articles from the planet and from some other pages (so u can see directly what saigkill have in his feedreader ;) ) I made enough proposals how it can be changed but it was ignored.

We have enough to improve on planet, news, spotlight, own and the twitter/identi.ca accounts before we doing more and new stuff or programs like "liason"

A comment from launch party vienna, party page hard to find. So see why wasnt it on frontpage? Small step much effect but here is always to do the suseROCKs defined way and thats the problem in generally!

so first clean up then make new steps

br gnokii

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I mentioned to AJ it would be helpful if we had the following resources/guides enumerated in the Marketing portal somewhere:

* How-to interact with the Weekly Newsletter team regarding your team/project * Tips for announcing releases/submitting content to news.o.o * ??

Anything else I'm missing that would be helpful for those of us new to the marketing team?

Cheers, -R. Tyler Ballance -------------------------------------- GitHub: http://github.com/rtyler Twitter: http://twitter.com/agentdero

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(2010/08/11 3:42), S.Kemter wrote:

So now big fat question how did the OWN team observe the subprojects???? They didnt, its like before only copy& paste some articles from the planet and from some other pages (so u can see directly what saigkill have in his feedreader ;) ) I made enough proposals how it can be changed but it was ignored.

Hmmm, I'm sorry if I have missed your proposals for OWN so far, but I can't recall them (the only thing I remember is, that you've repeatedly reproved saigkill for just copying & pasting articles　:-P ). So, please tell us your *constructive* opinions or suggestions for OWN once again. Please note that I don't think just saying "You are wrong!" or "I won't do, but you should do!" is constructive. Proposals like "Don't you think it would be much more effective, laborsaving and fun to do ..." would be appreciated. ;-) In addition, I have something to say to you, gnokii. Let's thank and respect others first, and then criticize them if needed. We all thank and respect you for your contributions so far. You definitely are one of the most important contributors in our community. However, you have to learn one more important thing: How you can motivate others. Which do you think more effective to motivate others, saying "No, you are wrong!" or "Thanks for your efforts. But I think it would be much better if you do ..." ? The more one thank and respect others, the more (s)he will be thanked and respected by others - and vice versa. I really hope our openSUSE community will be filled with thanks instead of blames and clamor. That's my gray wisdom. ;-) Best, -- _/_/ Satoru Matsumoto - openSUSE Member - Japan _/_/ _/_/ Marketing/Weekly News/openFATE Screening Team _/_/ _/_/ mail: helios_reds_at_gmx.net / irc: HeliosReds _/_/ _/_/ http://blog.zaq.ne.jp/opensuse/ _/_/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org