Hi, My technical reply on this: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2012-02/msg01470.html my google+ reply on the style of his rant: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115459846930982668806/posts/P36Nw61h75u SUSE Security is working to make openSUSE both secure and usable, with both in mind when we do our job. What is missing usually is the good integration, like in When you see a root password dialog it usually means the design and implementation is not fully done and its a stop gap measure to avoid security holes. There is more integration work needed really, NetworkManager and Printing specifically. Ciao, Marcus On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 08:26:59AM -0200, Raul Libório wrote:

Thanks Bryen, I'm not a subscriber opensuse-gnome list. I see the review. Sorry for duplicates.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Bryen M Yunashko wrote:

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On Thu, 2012-03-01 at 02:23 -0200, Raul Libório wrote:

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So I agree with him. Certain features daily should not have so many restrictions.

'Kill yourself now' - Torvalds throws openSUSE security tantrum http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/29/torvalds_tantrum_opensuse/

and, g+ (Torvalds) https://plus.google.com/102150693225130002912/posts

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On Thursday, March 01, 2012 13:02:26 Bruno Friedmann wrote:

On Thursday 01 March 2012 11.36:44 Marcus Meissner wrote:

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Hi,

My technical reply on this: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2012-02/msg01470.html

my google+ reply on the style of his rant: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115459846930982668806/posts/P36Nw61h75u

SUSE Security is working to make openSUSE both secure and usable, with both in mind when we do our job.

What is missing usually is the good integration, like in

When you see a root password dialog it usually means the design and implementation is not fully done and its a stop gap measure to avoid security holes.

There is more integration work needed really, NetworkManager and Printing specifically.

Ciao, Marcus

On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 08:26:59AM -0200, Raul Libório wrote:

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Thanks Bryen, I'm not a subscriber opensuse-gnome list. I see the review. Sorry for duplicates.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Bryen M Yunashko wrote:

...

On Thu, 2012-03-01 at 02:23 -0200, Raul Libório wrote:

...

So I agree with him. Certain features daily should not have so many restrictions.

'Kill yourself now' - Torvalds throws openSUSE security tantrum http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/29/torvalds_tantrum_opensuse/

and, g+ (Torvalds) https://plus.google.com/102150693225130002912/posts

-- Raul Libório

http://rauhmaru.blogspot.com/ rauhmarutsªhotmailºcom

openSUSE Member | Linux User #4444581

"There are only 10 types of people in the world - Those who understand binary, and those who don't."

This issue is already being addressed in the proper mailing list venue. Please send any constructive thoughts there. See http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-gnome/2012-02/msg00040.html for the full thread.

Thanks, Bryen M Yunashko openSUSE Project

A big thanks Marcus!

And for those who don't printing is really a tricky point, and I'm not aware of any OS that doesn't require Administration Privileges escalation to install a new printer driver.

Hmmm, not sure if it requires a new printer, but when I connect a printer I've never used before, it shows up under the list of printers in the print dialog without configuration... Is that strange?!? /me runs tumbleweed & Plasma Desktop

Remember that printing is the old way to send an email :D