Japanese input in Mozilla/Galeon
Under SuSE 7.3 Intl I am able to *paste* Japanese text into Mozilla/Galeon text boxes (i.e., Google, etc.), but I cannot type directly into them. Is this just the way it is? Thanks, Eric __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! BB is Broadband by Yahoo! http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/
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Under SuSE 7.3 Intl I am able to *paste* Japanese text into Mozilla/Galeon text boxes (i.e., Google, etc.), but I cannot type directly into them.
It certainly works in Mozilla. I know that this already worked in SuSE Linux 7.2 and 7.3 because Mozilla is my favorite browser and I used that often back then. Still works in SuSE Linux 8.0. Actually it not only works, it currently works better than in any other application. Mozilla supports OnTheSpot input style and does this really well. I have not yet used Galeon and tried it now for the first time because you asked. I checked on SuSE Linux 7.3 and SuSE Linux 8.0, it worked and also supports OnTheSpot input style as good as Mozilla.
Is this just the way it is?
No, it works for me.
Do you have any more details what could be wrong in your case? Can
you do Japanese input into other applications (e.g. kterm, rxvt,
Netscape, kedit, ...)?
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Hi,
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:05:23 +0900 (JST)
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Under SuSE 7.3 Intl I am able to *paste* Japanese text into Mozilla/Galeon text boxes (i.e., Google, etc.), but I cannot type directly into them.
Is this just the way it is? On the KDE 2.x ?
I know that there is a bug of clipboard in qt2. Please try to use our qt2 packages(test version). It will work well on the KDE2. (copy & paste between KDE app and noKDE app) # I have not tested Mozilla under Suse 7.3 yet. <URI of qt2 packages> ftp://ftp.kde.gr.jp/pub/jkug/test/suse73/qt2 ----- M. Takeyama
Please tell me about this problem. I might be able to help you. I hardly use GMONE and Mozilla on the Linux. (But I use Netspape 6(6.2.1) on the MS-Windows.)
I usually use KDE(and Konqueror) on the Linux.
Let's see... I'm running Galeon 1.0.3/Mozilla 0.98. I basically cannot input into any Japanese text box which shows up in the browser. I am able, however, to input Japanese into Galeon's own text boxes for system settings, etc. The problem seems to lie with Mozilla. I'm going to try the newest version of Mozilla. Another possible problem is that I think I used RedHat rpms on my SuSE install. I'm going to try again with the newest version of Galeon/Mozilla. Thanks for writing, Eric __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! BB is Broadband by Yahoo! http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/
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Please tell me about this problem. I might be able to help you. I hardly use GMONE and Mozilla on the Linux. (But I use Netspape 6(6.2.1) on the MS-Windows.)
I usually use KDE(and Konqueror) on the Linux.
Let's see... I'm running Galeon 1.0.3/Mozilla 0.98. I basically cannot input into any Japanese text box which shows up in the browser. I am able, however, to input Japanese into Galeon's own text boxes for system settings, etc. The problem seems to lie with Mozilla. I'm going to try the newest version of Mozilla. Another possible problem is that I think I used RedHat rpms on my SuSE install.
Why don't you try the SuSE rpms for Mozilla and Galeon then? I tested them on SuSE Linux 7.3 and SuSE Linux 8.0 and Japanese input always worked fine.
I'm going to try again with the newest version of Galeon/Mozilla.
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Mike Fabian
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writes: Please tell me about this problem. I might be able to help you. I hardly use GMONE and Mozilla on the Linux. (But I use Netspape 6(6.2.1) on the MS-Windows.)
I usually use KDE(and Konqueror) on the Linux.
Let's see... I'm running Galeon 1.0.3/Mozilla 0.98. I basically cannot input into any Japanese text box which shows up in the browser. I am able, however, to input Japanese into Galeon's own text boxes for system settings, etc. The problem seems to lie with Mozilla. I'm going to try the newest version of Mozilla. Another possible problem is that I think I used RedHat rpms on my SuSE install.
Why don't you try the SuSE rpms for Mozilla and Galeon then? I tested them on SuSE Linux 7.3 and SuSE Linux 8.0 and Japanese input always worked fine.
I'm going to try again with the newest version of Galeon/Mozilla.
In case you wonder where to get the latest updates of Mozilla packages
for SuSE Linux 7.3, they are here:
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/mozilla/0.9.8/7.3/
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/mozilla/0.9.9/7.3/
Don't forget to run SuSEconfig after updating the Mozilla rpms!
I've not yet tested 0.9.9 but I have tested 0.9.8 on SuSE Linux 7.3
and 8.0 and Japanese input works.
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Mike Fabian
Why don't you try the SuSE rpms for Mozilla and Galeon then? I tested them on SuSE Linux 7.3 and SuSE Linux 8.0 and Japanese input always worked fine.
I'm going to try again with the newest version of Galeon/Mozilla.
In case you wonder where to get the latest updates of Mozilla packages for SuSE Linux 7.3, they are here:
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/mozilla/0.9.8/7.3/ ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/mozilla/0.9.9/7.3/
Don't forget to run SuSEconfig after updating the Mozilla rpms!
I've not yet tested 0.9.9 but I have tested 0.9.8 on SuSE Linux 7.3 and 8.0 and Japanese input works.
-- Ulp... I just installed Mozilla 0.9.9 and Galeon 1.2 before reading your post. I don't believe the problem was with the older versions of Mozilla. When I was bringing up kinput, the kana-conversion box would pop up in the lower left-hand corner and kinput would (still does) take the focus away from whatever text entry box I was trying to type Japanese into. So anything I tried to type went to never-never land. I just need to reclick the entry box after bringing up Kinput, and it works fine. I'm guessing it was working like this before as well. I just didn't think to refocus the cursor (because I haven't encountered this problem before).
I might go ahead and go with the SuSE rpms after all. Thanks everyone for posting... Eric __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! BB is Broadband by Yahoo! http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/
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When I was bringing up kinput, the kana-conversion box would pop up in the lower left-hand corner and kinput would (still does) take the focus away from whatever text entry box I was trying to type Japanese into. So anything I tried to type went to never-never land. I just need to reclick the entry box after bringing up Kinput, and it works fine. I'm guessing it was working like this before as well. I just didn't think to refocus the cursor (because I haven't encountered this problem before).
Now I see. I know that it causes problems when the windows popped up
by kinput2 get focus.
I didn't have this problem with the mode window of kinput2 at the
lower left of Mozilla, this window did never get focus on any of my
SuSE Linux systems.
But the focus problem is also annoying when one uses the features of
kinput2 which pop up additional windows, for example the special symbol
input as descrribed on
http://www.suse.de/~mfabian/suse-cjk/kinput2-canna-special-symbo.html
These additional windows should never get focus, if they do the
characters don't appear in the window where one wants to type Japanese
until this window gets focus again. For some applications (e.g. gvim)
it did even cause more serious problems. In gvim Japanese input became
impossible as soon as the special symbol window got focus and received
some keystrokes and one had to restart gvim.
I fixed this for SuSE Linux 8.0 by adding the following lines
to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Kinput2
*SeparateConversion.input: false
*selectionShell.input: false
*auxShell.input: false
Please add them to your /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Kinput2.
These options avoid that the windows titled
'Kana-Kanji Conversion'
'Candidate Selection'
'Auxiliary Control'
get focus. This works with most window managers except blackbox and
WindowMaker, these two have a bug in focus handling and ignore these
app-defaults settings.
On top of that, blackbox and WindowMaker also give focus to the
kinput2 mode window at the lower left of Mozilla which results in the
problem you describe. Are you using blackbox or Windowmaker?
With all the other window managers/desktops, the kinput2 mode window
doesn't get focus, only blackbox and WindowMaker seem to have this
problem. So with blackbox and WindowMaker you have to take care
manually to keep the focus where you want to do Japanese input.
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On top of that, blackbox and WindowMaker also give focus to the kinput2 mode window at the lower left of Mozilla which results in the problem you describe. Are you using blackbox or Windowmaker? Yep, that's it. I'm running WindowMaker. I just checked Mozilla via KDE, and it worked fine (i.e., didn't steal the focus). Everything else I use under WMaker (Gjiten, Xemacs, rxvt...) doesn't lose focus, so I'll just live with Mozilla as it is.
A 1,000 thanks, Eric __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! BB is Broadband by Yahoo! http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/
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On top of that, blackbox and WindowMaker also give focus to the kinput2 mode window at the lower left of Mozilla which results in the problem you describe. Are you using blackbox or Windowmaker? Yep, that's it. I'm running WindowMaker. I just checked Mozilla via KDE, and it worked fine (i.e., didn't steal the focus). Everything else I use under WMaker (Gjiten, Xemacs, rxvt...) doesn't lose focus, so I'll just live with Mozilla as it is.
In case of the other programs (Gjiten, XEmacs, rxvt, ...), the problem
with the kinput2 mode window doesn't occur because the mode window is
opened without a frame in those cases. But even for those programs
the focus problems with the 'Auxiliary Control' window remain.
I had already reported this problem to the blackbox developers, they
acknowledged that it is a bug in blackbox and said they will fix it.
Today I reported it to the WindowMaker developers too, so I guess it
will eventually get fixed for WindowMaker as well.
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Mike Fabian
Takeyama
Hi,
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:05:23 +0900 (JST) ピアス エリック
wrote: Under SuSE 7.3 Intl I am able to *paste* Japanese text into Mozilla/Galeon text boxes (i.e., Google, etc.), but I cannot type directly into them.
Is this just the way it is? On the KDE 2.x ?
I know that there is a bug of clipboard in qt2.
Please try to use our qt2 packages(test version). It will work well on the KDE2. (copy & paste between KDE app and noKDE app)
Well, Eric wrote that he *can* paste Japanese text into Mozilla/Galeon, only he cannot use Japanese input in Mozilla/Galeon directly. Therefore I think Eric's problem has nothing to do with the clipboard.
# I have not tested Mozilla under Suse 7.3 yet.
Japanese input into Mozilla under SuSE 7.3 Works just fine for me.
<URI of qt2 packages> ftp://ftp.kde.gr.jp/pub/jkug/test/suse73/qt2
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