June 2005 - openSUSE M17n - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: SuSE and Java1.5 asian fonts question
by Suchindra Katageri 24 Jun '05

24 Jun '05

The Japanese fonts for JDK1.5/SLES-9.0 seems to work. Heres the workaround. Workaround to get the Japanese fonts working on JDK1.5/SLES-9.0 JDK-1.5 does not have the font properties file. Also SLES 9.0 does not have the true fonts files. These are needed for the Japanese fonts to work with the above mentioned platform. Steps. 1) Add the fontconfig.SuSE.properties file to the jre/lib. This contains the logical names of the fonts (their style, character set, etc). fontconfig.SuSE.properties can be found at this site: http://lists.suse.com/archive/m17n/2005-Jun/0019.html <http://lists.suse.com/archive/m17n/2005-Jun/0019.html> 2) This file contains the actual font file names, which are a bunch of .ttf files located in the directory specified. e.g. filename.-misc-sazanami_gothic-medium-r-normal--*-%d-*-*-c-*-jisx0208.19 83-0=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype/sazanami-gothic.ttf filename.-misc-sazanami_mincho-medium-r-normal--*-%d-*-*-c-*-jisx0208.19 83-0=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype/sazanami-mincho.ttf Get the true font files sazanami-gothic.ttf and sazanami-mincho.ttf from http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpackages/professional/sazanami-fonts .html <http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpackages/professional/sazanami-font s.html> and store them in the directory specified. /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype/

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RE: SCIM, (ar/heb); and possible problem in SCIM setup
by hermanmeester 24 Jun '05

24 Jun '05

Hello, Do you mean scim-m17n plus requirements is enough? I use Suse 9.1. My system tells me I need m17n-lib for scim-m17n, and m17n-lib needs (it says) "libanthy.so.0" and "libanthydic.so.0". Where could I find those? Or what are their equivalents in the suse m17n package lists? And, as I have the honour of talking to the SCIM author himself (if I'm correct), I have a little question. I opened the scim-setup, and when I took a look at "Current Config Module"; I clicked the arrow next to "socket" just to take a look, although I guess "socket" is the only thing I have available there (?). Then it says, "Current Config Module has been changed to socket." although I didn't (want to) change anything. It has an "OK"-button, and if i click it, it doesn't go away (it keeps popping up). It keeps hanging there for a while even if I log out or shut down the system. Did I make a mistake, is it a bug, or did I fail to install something? Beside that, SCIM works perfectly, so it's not an actual problem, if I just don't touch this "Current Config Module". Maybe it's because of Suse 9.1? (I could upgrade to 9.3, but there have been discussions about Korean not working perfectly yet with SCIM on 9.3 (is this still the case?) and Korean is what we most need. Thank you; and, I'll try to put hebrew and arabic in SCIM too. Regards Herman -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: James Su [mailto:suzhe@tsinghua.org.cn] Verzonden: vr 24-6-2005 10:50 Aan: hermanmeester CC: mfabian(a)suse.de; m17n(a)suse.com Onderwerp: Re: [m17n] unusual characters in OOo Hi, scim-m17n (with it's required packages) can support many languages, including Hebrew and Arabic. You must try it. Regards James Su

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RE: [m17n] unusual characters in OOo
by hermanmeester 24 Jun '05

24 Jun '05

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Mike FABIAN [mailto:mfabian@suse.de] Verzonden: do 23-6-2005 23:51 As you are using SCIM anyway to input Korean, why not use it to input the Dutch special characters as well? You can use the M17N-t-latn-pre input method for that. Install scim-m17n, m17n-lib, m17n-db, libotf, and workcut. Restart your X11 session. Thank you Mike, So far I installed m17n-db, libotf, and wordcut, but for m17n-lib (which is needed by scim-m17n) my system (in the root console) says it needs: libanthy.so.0 and libanthydic.so.0 I don't know how old that is, but is it equivalent to ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/m17n/9.1/i586/anthy-6024-1.1.i586 and/or ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/m17n/9.1/i586/anthy-devel-6024-1.1.i586 ? ? Now, if you select the M17N-t-latn-pre input method in the SCIM panel, you can get these Dutch characters by typing "i -> ï "e -> ë "a -> ä (left side is what you type, right side is what is inserted, for a complete list of the key-combinations offered by the M17N-t-latn-pre input method, have a look at the file /usr/share/m17n/latn-pre.mim). SCIM also has a "raw code" input method where you can insert the unicode code point. I see that "RAW CODE" input method in the little menu (at "other"); so do you mean that if you insert the code and enter, the character you want will show up? I'll check that right away. I could learn those codes by heart ;-) In the SCIM setup dialog, you can define hotkeys to switch between input methods. I.e. you may define key combinations to switch between your favorite Korean input method and the M17N-t-latn-pre input method. You can also use compose to input these characters. "compose" is also supported by SCIM, to use it while SCIM is running, switch the SCIM panel of (default Hotkeys "Shift+Space" or "Control+Space"). The Compose Keybindings for the Characters you mentioned are: Multi_key " i -> ï Multi_key " e -> ë Multi_key " a -> ä The default binding for Multi_key on SuSE Linux is Shift+RightControl. For a complete list of compose keybindings see: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose Just another thing: So basically your idea is, why not try putting everything in SCIM, if one is already using that? It does sound very attractive, because SCIM works really fine. Do you think Arabic and Hebrew can also be put in the SCIM-panel? (My panel also mentions Russian, and even Amharic!) Problem could be that Hebrew and Arabic are written from right to left, of course. Could this mess things up in SCIM? I'm now typing Hebrew by pasting setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll us,il in the shell after every reboot. Then, double shift gives Hebrew. It "overrides" SCIM (double shift turns the little scroll-lock light on; then you cannot use SCIM). I don't mind doing that every time, and I don't use Arabic much (for which I didn't have an imput method yet) so it's not really a priority; but would you know if ftp://ftp.suse ~ m17n/9.1/i586/ has any ready-to-install hebrew and arabic scim packages? Or maybe I have to ask, where can you see easily what all these packages are about? And if I add all sorts of SCIM-packages, do I have to modify the ~/.xim file at any time? I do have the hebrew and arabic fonts, not many, but they're not too ugly. Thanks and best regards, Herman

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unusual characters in OOo
by hermanmeester 24 Jun '05

24 Jun '05

Hello everyone, Sorry to ask a maybe too simple question, but does anyone know how to (find the information how to..) assign "fast keys" to special characters that you could select yourself? For example I need letters like i, e, and a with umlauts frequently for writing Dutch. I can just patiently open the "insert" - "special characters" menu and select one, but I can't turn the unicode-code which is also mentioned on the right side, for every character, into a 'fast key' like Ctrl + Shift + F1 or whatever, or just use the coding itself. Thanks, I couldn't find this in any manuals or help-files. Herman

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Re: [m17n] unusual characters in OOo
by James Su 24 Jun '05

24 Jun '05

Hi, scim-m17n (with it's required packages) can support many languages, including Hebrew and Arabic. You must try it. Regards James Su hermanmeester wrote: > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: Mike FABIAN [mailto:mfabian@suse.de] >Verzonden: do 23-6-2005 23:51 > >As you are using SCIM anyway to input Korean, why not use >it to input the Dutch special characters as well? > >You can use the M17N-t-latn-pre input method for that. >Install scim-m17n, m17n-lib, m17n-db, libotf, and workcut. >Restart your X11 session. > > Thank you Mike, > > So far I installed m17n-db, libotf, and wordcut, but for m17n-lib (which is needed by scim-m17n) my system (in the root console) says it needs: > >libanthy.so.0 and >libanthydic.so.0 > >I don't know how old that is, but is it equivalent to > >ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/m17n/9.1/i586/anthy-6024-1.1.i586 and/or >ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/m17n/9.1/i586/anthy-devel-6024-1.1.i586 ? > >? > >Now, if you select the M17N-t-latn-pre input method in the >SCIM panel, you can get these Dutch characters by typing > > "i -> ï > "e -> ë > "a -> ä > >(left side is what you type, right side is what is inserted, >for a complete list of the key-combinations offered by >the M17N-t-latn-pre input method, have a look at the file >/usr/share/m17n/latn-pre.mim). > >SCIM also has a "raw code" input method where you can insert >the unicode code point. > > I see that "RAW CODE" input method in the little menu (at "other"); so do you mean that if you insert the code and enter, the character you want will show up? I'll check that right away. I could learn those codes by heart ;-) > >In the SCIM setup dialog, you can define hotkeys to switch between >input methods. I.e. you may define key combinations to switch between >your favorite Korean input method and the M17N-t-latn-pre input >method. >You can also use compose to input these characters. "compose" is also >supported by SCIM, to use it while SCIM is running, switch the SCIM >panel of (default Hotkeys "Shift+Space" or "Control+Space"). > >The Compose Keybindings for the Characters you mentioned are: > > Multi_key " i -> ï > Multi_key " e -> ë > Multi_key " a -> ä > >The default binding for Multi_key on SuSE Linux is >Shift+RightControl. > >For a complete list of compose keybindings see: > >/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose > > > Just another thing: > > So basically your idea is, why not try putting everything in SCIM, if one is already using that? It does sound very attractive, because SCIM works really fine. >Do you think Arabic and Hebrew can also be put in the SCIM-panel? (My panel also mentions Russian, and even Amharic!) >Problem could be that Hebrew and Arabic are written from right to left, of course. Could this mess things up in SCIM? >I'm now typing Hebrew by pasting > >setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll us,il > >in the shell after every reboot. Then, double shift gives Hebrew. It "overrides" SCIM (double shift turns the little scroll-lock light on; then you cannot use SCIM). > >I don't mind doing that every time, and I don't use Arabic much (for which I didn't have an imput method yet) so it's not really a priority; but would you know if ftp://ftp.suse ~ m17n/9.1/i586/ has any ready-to-install hebrew and arabic scim packages? > >Or maybe I have to ask, where can you see easily what all these packages are about? >And if I add all sorts of SCIM-packages, do I have to modify the ~/.xim file at any time? >I do have the hebrew and arabic fonts, not many, but they're not too ugly. > >Thanks and best regards, >Herman > > >

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SuSE 9.3 Compose keys (right shift + ctrl)
by Peter Niessen 23 Jun '05

23 Jun '05

Dear list, until SuSE 9.2, it was possible to use compose keys (right-shift + right-control) to compose diarhesis, accents, etc. if UTF-8 was de-selected. In 9.3 not anymore! How can I activate this feature again? Cheers, Peter.

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update: gjiten 2.4 for SuSE Linux 9.3
by Mike FABIAN 21 Jun '05

21 Jun '05

Gjiten 2.4 packages for SuSE Linux 9.3 are available here: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/m17n/9.3/i586/gjiten-2.4-1.1.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/m17n/9.3/src/gjiten-2.4-1.1.src.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/m17n/9.3/x86_64/gjiten-2.4-1.1.x86_64.rpm >From the ChangeLog file of the author: - Gettext fix for kanji info pref dialog. (Daichi Kawahata) - KanjiDic segv on CTRL-Q fixed. (Alexis S. L. Carvalho) - Japanese translation fixes and desktop file i18n. (Daichi Kawahata) - Dicfile match colorization fix for gettext translation. - KanjiDic history width problem fixed. - Added support for the Chinese CEDICT dictionary. - German translation update. (Gregor Riepl) - Optional unicode radicals in KanjiDic. - Don't limit if result limit is < 1. - Perl script for automated dictionary setup (system-wide or user-only). - Gconf schema for system-wide settings. - Fixed help menu. -- Mike FABIAN <mfabian(a)suse.de> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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scim 1.3.0 for SuSE Linux 9.3
by Mike FABIAN 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

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RE: [m17n] Hebrew; and the left to right/right to left problem
by hermanmeester 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

***oorspronkelijk bericht*** I just installed Fedora Core 3 from the installation cd and chose default language as Hebrew. The install itself I did in English. Yes, Hebrew is the default language on my system. All of KDE, including konquerer and kmail, have hebrew language interfaces, aligned to the right. Would you like some screenshots? Dotan Hi Dotan, Well, let's see them! I'd like to see. I'm not a native speaker of Hebrew by the way so a full-Hebrew desktop would severely slow down my computer use! ;) Could you also show me how any directory displays its files listed? Thanks, Herman

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SuSE and Java1.5 asian fonts question.
by Naoya Sugioka 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

Hello , I have a question for the java1.5 sdk/jre font configuration under SuSE Linux. Currently I'm using SuSE 9.2 Pro, it has configured with JRE142. it looks like configured with sazanami font automatically by font.properties.ja file. Once after installed JDK1.5 and configured /etc/java/java.conf to setup JDK1.5 runtime, I found that fontconfig file has only having Latin-1 font settings. In order to use Japanese font as same as JRE142, I made the fontconfig.SuSE.properties file as attached. After that, JDK1.5 works fine, ant show me Japanese font glyph. Above things are coming up with my questions. 1. Which version of SuSE/SLES are supporting Java1.5 for Asian locale ? 'officially' means don not edit font config file manually. 2. Is there right (or wise) way to configure Java related font ? Hope a utility tool (ie, SuSEconfig command) queries XLFD database and get correct font name to be configured in the target system. thank you, -naoya sugioka

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