[Bug 1211101] New: MicroOS Desktop KDE: replace Kate RPM with KWrite Flatpak
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1211101 Bug ID: 1211101 Summary: MicroOS Desktop KDE: replace Kate RPM with KWrite Flatpak Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE Tumbleweed Version: Current Hardware: All OS: openSUSE Tumbleweed Status: NEW Severity: Enhancement Priority: P5 - None Component: MicroOS Assignee: kubic-bugs@opensuse.org Reporter: accounts@rack.re QA Contact: qa-bugs@suse.de Target Milestone: --- Found By: --- Blocker: --- Kate is currently not available on Flathub and is hence part of the base image, installed as an RPM from the Tumbleweed repo. I think it would be preferable to not include Kate in the base image and instead install KWrite from Flathub (https://flathub.org/apps/org.kde.kwrite) similarly to how it's done with Firefox. This would improve two things: 1. The base system would be "all Flatpak" with the only "native" applications being Plasma-Shell, Dolphin, Konsole and Spectacle. (Maybe I'm missing something.) I don't see why Kate needs to be part of these "basic tools" when e.g. Okular, Gwenviwe, kCalc, Ark or Firefox are expected to be installed as Flatpaks. 2. KWrite is easier to use than Kate. The audience for MicroOS Desktop seems to be people who want everything to work without tinkering and without using the CLI. Kate has a lot of features and many buttons here and there so I think it's a bit overkill for the normal user. Those users who still want to have Kate will know how to use transactional-update or distrobox. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
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Shawn Dunn
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Kilian Hanich
At the moment, the kate flatpak is not a viable option to replace the kate rpm. It is being worked on, but for the forseeable future, kate will remain as a default installation rpm.
This is talking about the KWrite Flatpak NOT the Kate one (to my knowledge the Kate maintainer even wants Kate pulled from Flathub since the philosophy of configuring and using Kate and Flatpak are quite contradictory, unlike with KWrite). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
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--- Comment #4 from Kilian Hanich
I'm aware you were discussing kwrite. But kwrite lacks functionality that kate has, and I want to avoid people having to dive into transactional-update to install kate, at this time, as it's used by lots of kde users. And I suspect it will become a repeated support issue if removed. So I'm saving myself the headache.
If kate were something less feature rich, like gedit or "Text Editor" (Whatever gnome is calling it now) or something like leafpad or or featherpad, or any other text editor that is almost literally just a text editor, It might be a different story, but it isn't.
Maybe, but it's unlikely for Kate to ever be in Flathub (or available as a Flatpak in general) since the maintainer sees it as undesirable. So it's quite likely that if we go with that option to always be installed as an RPM which I doubt is a goal of microOS, even more so since Kate is supposed to be configured by installing dev tools alongside it like language servers which would need to be installed via transactional-update anyway here. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
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