On 10/27/2011 06:32 PM, Ismail Doenmez wrote:

Hi;

Am Thu 27 Oct 2011 05:30:01 PM CEST schrieb Bruno Friedmann :

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On 10/27/2011 02:41 PM, Ismail Donmez wrote:

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Hi;

There is a patch series available at http://people.canonical.com/~sforshee/alps-touchpad/psmouse-alps-0.10/ I _tested_ this on top of openSUSE kernel-desktop and they fix touchpad detection on Dell Latitude E6520 laptop.

The patch series for Elantech v3/v4 support is seperate and I'll send them after the reporter test my kernel build.

This would be really nice to have in 12.1 kernel.

Regards.

Ismael, you have already a build module/kernel for factory/12.1 kernel ? If yes in which repository, I'm interested to try that one on Dell Precision M4600 which should have the same multi-touch alps device

Yes, see https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home%3Anamtrac%3Abranches%3A...

Regards.

cool I'm trying to install it, but as I need the kernel-devel (nvidia blob) I'm stuck at zypper --no-refresh in http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/namtrac:/branches:/Kernel:/H... http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/namtrac:/branches:/Kernel:/H... Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... Problem: nothing provides kernel-devel = 3.1.0-6 needed by kernel-desktop-devel-3.1.0-6.1.x86_64 Solution 1: do not install kernel-desktop-devel-3.1.0-6.1.x86_64 Solution 2: break kernel-desktop-devel by ignoring some of its dependencies Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/c] (c): -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/27/2011 07:27 PM, Ismail Doenmez wrote:

Hi;

Am Thu 27 Oct 2011 07:21:07 PM CEST schrieb Bruno Friedmann :

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On 10/27/2011 06:32 PM, Ismail Doenmez wrote:

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Hi;

Am Thu 27 Oct 2011 05:30:01 PM CEST schrieb Bruno Friedmann :

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On 10/27/2011 02:41 PM, Ismail Donmez wrote:

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Hi;

There is a patch series available at http://people.canonical.com/~sforshee/alps-touchpad/psmouse-alps-0.10/ I _tested_ this on top of openSUSE kernel-desktop and they fix touchpad detection on Dell Latitude E6520 laptop.

The patch series for Elantech v3/v4 support is seperate and I'll send them after the reporter test my kernel build.

This would be really nice to have in 12.1 kernel.

Regards.

Ismael, you have already a build module/kernel for factory/12.1 kernel ? If yes in which repository, I'm interested to try that one on Dell Precision M4600 which should have the same multi-touch alps device

Yes, see https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home%3Anamtrac%3Abranches%3A...

Regards.

cool I'm trying to install it, but as I need the kernel-devel (nvidia blob) I'm stuck at

zypper --no-refresh in http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/namtrac:/branches:/Kernel:/H...

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/namtrac:/branches:/Kernel:/H...

Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies...

Problem: nothing provides kernel-devel = 3.1.0-6 needed by kernel-desktop-devel-3.1.0-6.1.x86_64 Solution 1: do not install kernel-desktop-devel-3.1.0-6.1.x86_64 Solution 2: break kernel-desktop-devel by ignoring some of its dependencies

Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/c] (c):

Well I am afraid you have to force install it for once and rollback to normal kernel afterwards. I had to do the same :)

Regards.

okay let break a bit more my workstation, if I can get touchpad afterwards :D -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/27/2011 08:46 PM, Stefan Seyfried wrote:

On 27.10.2011 19:44, Bruno Friedmann wrote:

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Problem: nothing provides kernel-devel = 3.1.0-6 needed by kernel-desktop-devel-3.1.0-6.1.x86_64 Solution 1: do not install kernel-desktop-devel-3.1.0-6.1.x86_64 Solution 2: break kernel-desktop-devel by ignoring some of its dependencies

Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/c] (c):

Well I am afraid you have to force install it for once and rollback to normal kernel afterwards. I had to do the same :)

Regards.

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okay let break a bit more my workstation, if I can get touchpad afterwards :D

Just answer "2", nothing will break.

Yeah ... 6 months after having buyed this computer, I've now a working touchpad. I'm very +++ on having those patches included. there's already a number of bugs in bugzilla concerning those one. I believe it could be a real improvement in the end user life. I know it's not a "real & proper" solution, but at least it's a working one. Philosophy against reality ? The other way if we can't have it would be publishing a patch that apply easily and explain how to get this drivers compiled into the installed kernel. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/28/2011 10:30 AM, Ismail Donmez wrote:

Hi;

On 10/28/2011 10:14 AM, Bruno Friedmann wrote:

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On 10/27/2011 08:46 PM, Stefan Seyfried wrote:

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On 27.10.2011 19:44, Bruno Friedmann wrote:

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Problem: nothing provides kernel-devel = 3.1.0-6 needed by kernel-desktop-devel-3.1.0-6.1.x86_64 Solution 1: do not install kernel-desktop-devel-3.1.0-6.1.x86_64 Solution 2: break kernel-desktop-devel by ignoring some of its dependencies

Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/c] (c):

Well I am afraid you have to force install it for once and rollback to normal kernel afterwards. I had to do the same :)

Regards.

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okay let break a bit more my workstation, if I can get touchpad afterwards :D

Just answer "2", nothing will break.

Yeah ... 6 months after having buyed this computer, I've now a working touchpad. I'm very +++ on having those patches included. there's already a number of bugs in bugzilla concerning those one. I believe it could be a real improvement in the end user life.

Glad that it works for you too.

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I know it's not a "real& proper" solution, but at least it's a working one. Philosophy against reality ?

Who says its not proper? Its a working patchset which will eventually be in upstream :-) I was remembering some months ago, that upstream doesn't want it, cause it's based on reversed engineering and they would like to get the open specs from ALPS. But I don't follow daily the lkml. and lots of things happen :D

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The other way if we can't have it would be publishing a patch that apply easily and explain how to get this drivers compiled into the installed kernel.

I rather want this to be in 12.1 kernel otherwise users will just go away saying "it doesn't work with openSUSE but works with Foobuntu"

Yeah me too. I pray St Coolo now :D

Regards.

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Don't hijack threads, it makes finding your mail more difficult. On 27.10.2011 19:28, Mikhail Kuzminsky wrote:

There is kernel-default 2.6.37-1, for x86-64 (1 Sandy Bridge CPU is used really).

Does "Fast TSC calibration using PIT" message (from dmesg) means that TSCs are synchronized for all the processor cores ?

No, the message is unrelated to TSC synchronization. But the good news: on all recent CPUs, TSCs are generally synchronized by the BIOS (or the chip itself?) and stay like that. At least that was what I was told when I asked the same a year ago. -- Stefan Seyfried "Dispatch war rocket Ajax to bring back his body!" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/31/2011 06:48 PM, Larry Finger wrote:

On 10/31/2011 01:38 PM, Ismail Donmez wrote:

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On 10/27/2011 02:41 PM, Ismail Donmez wrote:

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Hi;

There is a patch series available at http://people.canonical.com/~sforshee/alps-touchpad/psmouse-alps-0.10/ I _tested_ this on top of openSUSE kernel-desktop and they fix touchpad detection on Dell Latitude E6520 laptop.

The patch series for Elantech v3/v4 support is seperate and I'll send them after the reporter test my kernel build.

This would be really nice to have in 12.1 kernel.

Ping please? This fixes a lot of new laptops' touchpads.

Are those patches in mainline? If not, they are unlikely to be added to the openSUSE kernel.

Its submitted to upstream and all patches except one is ACK-ed. I don't understand the reasoning for not including this patchset. It fixes a _lot_ of notebooks which is very important for the 12.1 release.

I'm waiting for a patch that blacklists acer-wmi on Thinkpad E520 boxes. When it loads, it places an rfkill soft block and kills wireless. Once it hits the 3.2 merge, then I ping GregKH and this list.

In my case waiting for 3.2 means missing 12.1 release and thats very bad. We need to support something as basic as a touchpad out of the box. Regards. -- Ismail Dönmez - openSUSE Booster SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/31/2011 06:54 PM, Greg KH wrote:

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 07:51:22PM +0100, Ismail Donmez wrote:

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On 10/31/2011 06:48 PM, Larry Finger wrote:

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On 10/31/2011 01:38 PM, Ismail Donmez wrote:

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On 10/27/2011 02:41 PM, Ismail Donmez wrote:

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Hi;

There is a patch series available at http://people.canonical.com/~sforshee/alps-touchpad/psmouse-alps-0.10/ I _tested_ this on top of openSUSE kernel-desktop and they fix touchpad detection on Dell Latitude E6520 laptop.

The patch series for Elantech v3/v4 support is seperate and I'll send them after the reporter test my kernel build.

This would be really nice to have in 12.1 kernel.

Ping please? This fixes a lot of new laptops' touchpads.

Are those patches in mainline? If not, they are unlikely to be added to the openSUSE kernel.

Its submitted to upstream and all patches except one is ACK-ed. I don't understand the reasoning for not including this patchset. It fixes a _lot_ of notebooks which is very important for the 12.1 release.

If something is not included in the upstream kernel, then we have to maintain it in our tree for pretty much forever. That is a non-trivial task, which is why we require this to be upstream.

There should be some exceptions, anyhow Elantech patchset for example is already upstream and this one is ACK-ed. So its possibly going in.

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I'm waiting for a patch that blacklists acer-wmi on Thinkpad E520 boxes. When it loads, it places an rfkill soft block and kills wireless. Once it hits the 3.2 merge, then I ping GregKH and this list.

In my case waiting for 3.2 means missing 12.1 release and thats very bad. We need to support something as basic as a touchpad out of the box.

doesn't follow the spec and only finally got Linux support in the 3.2 release" is not really follow the definition of "basic" :)

Its a gamble, if this is accepted into upstream 1 week later we miss 12.1 and its in 3.2. I don't know... Regards. -- Ismail Dönmez - openSUSE Booster SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/31/2011 08:49 PM, Stefan Seyfried wrote:

On 31.10.2011 18:54, Greg KH wrote:

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On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 07:51:22PM +0100, Ismail Donmez wrote:

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In my case waiting for 3.2 means missing 12.1 release and thats very bad. We need to support something as basic as a touchpad out of the box.

doesn't follow the spec and only finally got Linux support in the 3.2 release" is not really follow the definition of "basic" :)

"doesn't follow the spec" is not quite how I'd describe it. IIUC it is different hardware and there is not really a spec for touchpads, is there?

Indeed there are no specs for the updated hardware.

Can we then please build the psmouse etc. as a module again? Then the community can at least fix it simply by providing a kmp package...

I always like out of the box solutions but at least a solution would be nice yes. Regards. -- Ismail Dönmez - openSUSE Booster SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/31/2011 01:51 PM, Ismail Donmez wrote:

On 10/31/2011 06:48 PM, Larry Finger wrote:

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On 10/31/2011 01:38 PM, Ismail Donmez wrote:

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On 10/27/2011 02:41 PM, Ismail Donmez wrote:

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Hi;

There is a patch series available at http://people.canonical.com/~sforshee/alps-touchpad/psmouse-alps-0.10/ I _tested_ this on top of openSUSE kernel-desktop and they fix touchpad detection on Dell Latitude E6520 laptop.

The patch series for Elantech v3/v4 support is seperate and I'll send them after the reporter test my kernel build.

This would be really nice to have in 12.1 kernel.

Ping please? This fixes a lot of new laptops' touchpads.

Are those patches in mainline? If not, they are unlikely to be added to the openSUSE kernel.

Its submitted to upstream and all patches except one is ACK-ed. I don't understand the reasoning for not including this patchset. It fixes a _lot_ of notebooks which is very important for the 12.1 release.

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I'm waiting for a patch that blacklists acer-wmi on Thinkpad E520 boxes. When it loads, it places an rfkill soft block and kills wireless. Once it hits the 3.2 merge, then I ping GregKH and this list.

In my case waiting for 3.2 means missing 12.1 release and thats very bad. We need to support something as basic as a touchpad out of the box.

AFAIK, GregKH is quite strict in not including something that has not been merged with mainline. Do you have commit numbers? If so, send them to him. Larry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+owner@opensuse.org