[opensuse-kernel] Questions about KOTD
I have been looking in ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/HEAD/i386/ at the various KOTD builds. I need to update my 10.2 kernel to something newer than the 2.6.18 line... to at least 2.6.22. Is there a reason that the kernel-bigsmp version is lagging so far behind the rest? kernel-bigsmp-2.6.23 vs kernel-source-2.6.25 and where are the matching kernel sources to this kernel version? (I need a bigsmp kernel.. I think. I have an AMD64 X2 with 4GB of RAM running on an i386 kernel) Which kernel build has the fixes from https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=331610 included? It's not clear (to me anyway) from the comments in the bug report. I a guessing that the bigsmp kernel available in the KOTD directory has the patch from the bug since the patch was posted on the 17/10 and the bigsmp kernel is dated 13/10. So.... any advice here? C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 03 March 2008 21:27:37 Clayton wrote:
Is there a reason that the kernel-bigsmp version is lagging so far behind the rest?
Yes, that's because kernel-bigsmp has been renamed to kernel-pae, and the kernel-bigsmp that's still in ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/HEAD/i386 is the last one that was built. Thanks for pointing ouot this problem; I'll remove the obsolete file. So you want to use kernel-pae instead of kernel-bigsmp ... Thanks, Andreas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
Is there a reason that the kernel-bigsmp version is lagging so far behind the rest?
Yes, that's because kernel-bigsmp has been renamed to kernel-pae, and the kernel-bigsmp that's still in ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/HEAD/i386 is the last one that was built. Thanks for pointing out this problem; I'll remove the obsolete file.
So you want to use kernel-pae instead of kernel-bigsmp ...
I thought that might be the case when I was looking for a newer kernel this past weekend. The KOTD is rather volatile... is there a spot I can get an earlier stable kernel build with all the SUSE patches and matching sources... 2.6.24 for example? C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 3. März 2008 schrieb Clayton:
Is there a reason that the kernel-bigsmp version is lagging so far behind the rest?
Yes, that's because kernel-bigsmp has been renamed to kernel-pae, and the kernel-bigsmp that's still in ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/HEAD/i386 is the last one that was built. Thanks for pointing out this problem; I'll remove the obsolete file.
So you want to use kernel-pae instead of kernel-bigsmp ...
I thought that might be the case when I was looking for a newer kernel this past weekend.
The KOTD is rather volatile... is there a spot I can get an earlier stable kernel build with all the SUSE patches and matching sources... 2.6.24 for example?
Well, you missed the matching time frame for earlier builds. I was lucky being able to fetch the latest 2.6.24.1 build right in time from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/HEAD/openSUSE_Factory/i586... and patched it up to .3 myself. http://packages.opensuse-community.org shows at least one remaining build of 2.6.24.1: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/ervin:/kernel/openSUSE_10.3 but unfortunately no pae build. I can send you my spec files, but at least some rpm build knowledge is required from your side to get you going, as I cannot explain every detail.. To the SUSE kernel hackers: what about creating a http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/STABLE area, where the latest stable kernel would be available? That would also came in handy for regression testing.. Sure, everybody should life right on the bleeding edge, since those rc-beasts needs every testing they can get, but OTOH, there are a lot of people I bet, who are adventurously enough to run the latest stable one, but won't commit suicide throwing them on some production servers they run (like me..). Even if the servers survive the experiments somehow, probably my users would kill me ;-).. Thanks, Pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
Well, you missed the matching time frame for earlier builds. I was lucky being able to fetch the latest 2.6.24.1 build right in time from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/HEAD/openSUSE_Factory/i586... and patched it up to .3 myself.
I don't have to have 2.6.24... just a usable stable-ish kernel that is 2.6.22 or higher, and that has the patch applied for the bug I mentioned earlier. I could patch the kernel sources myself and build my own, but in this case, this is not on my computer.. it is on a computer about 500 km away. I have to either walk the user through adding a kernel repository to Smart or give him some location to download a pre-built kernel from. I will test the 2.6.25 kernels from the Factory link above... in tests on the PAE from KOTD, nVidia drivers would not load (makes sense since the kernel modules are for 2.6.18), and I could not manually install the nVidia drivers because gcc4.3 was used to build the kernel and I only have gcc4.1.
To the SUSE kernel hackers: what about creating a http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/STABLE area, where the latest stable kernel would be available? That would also came in handy for regression testing..
That would be really handy,and really helpful for those people who need a newer kernel version than the one available for their installed distribution. C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 3. März 2008 schrieb Clayton:
Well, you missed the matching time frame for earlier builds. I was lucky being able to fetch the latest 2.6.24.1 build right in time from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/HEAD/openSUSE_Factory /i586/ and patched it up to .3 myself.
I don't have to have 2.6.24... just a usable stable-ish kernel that is 2.6.22 or higher, and that has the patch applied for the bug I mentioned earlier. I could patch the kernel sources myself and build my own, but in this case, this is not on my computer.. it is on a computer about 500 km away. I have to either walk the user through adding a kernel repository to Smart or give him some location to download a pre-built kernel from.
Sorry, my repos are not available from the internet ATM. If you want 2.6.24.x, you need to build it yourself, transfer and install them somehow. How does smart handle file conflicts btw? The SUSE kernel and syms packages tend to install the conflicting files /lib/modules/2.6.18.8-0.5-default/modules.alias? https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=293558
I will test the 2.6.25 kernels from the Factory link above... in tests on the PAE from KOTD, nVidia drivers would not load (makes sense since the kernel modules are for 2.6.18), and I could not manually install the nVidia drivers because gcc4.3 was used to build the kernel and I only have gcc4.1.
Of course, they don't ;-).. Playing with kernels involves rebuilding the nvidia stuff. Since the 10.2 nvidia drivers are ancient, too, I've rolled my own. Now that .spec is, hmm, ambitious. BTW, Andreas, I filed a bug report with KMP build issues ages ago: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=271286 Since then, my spec and kernel-module-subpackage macros evolved a lot, but I got no feedback on this bug (like on the other..). Pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 04 March 2008 00:42:41 Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
BTW, Andreas, I filed a bug report with KMP build issues ages ago: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=271286
Hmm ... ancient too ... I'll add a comment, thanks. Andreas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag, 4. März 2008 schrieb Andreas Gruenbacher:
On Tuesday 04 March 2008 00:42:41 Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
BTW, Andreas, I filed a bug report with KMP build issues ages ago: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=271286
Hmm ... ancient too ... I'll add a comment, thanks.
FWIW, I updated the nvidia spec and kmp rpm macro to my current state. If there are nvidia users out there, who want to build the driver as rpm, try the specs attached to this bug. You also need to download the driver source. BTW, given the KMP mess and the manual x11 driver-update install, they're by far the most work intensive spec files, I ever created. Therefor it would be nice, if you leave a short note in the success case here, too ;-). Pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
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