[opensuse-kde] KDE in Tumbleweed just died a horrible death
So, with the recent reorg of packages in the KDE repos, KDE in Tumbleweed is horribly confused. What should I do? Link everything I previously was in the 412 repo with something else? thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
In data giovedì 03 aprile 2014 21:21:22, Greg KH ha scritto: Hello Greg,
What should I do? Link everything I previously was in the 412 repo with something else?
You should link to KDE:Current. Like that you'll get new stable versions as they come. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team KDE Science supporter GPG key ID: 6E1A4E79
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 07:21:59AM +0200, Luca Beltrame wrote:
In data giovedì 03 aprile 2014 21:21:22, Greg KH ha scritto:
Hello Greg,
What should I do? Link everything I previously was in the 412 repo with something else?
You should link to KDE:Current. Like that you'll get new stable versions as they come.
Where will the releases be developed? In :Current? I ask as it usually takes a few days to get things settled down and working properly for a new KDE update, _and_ there are usually new packages that need to get pulled into the repo and the like. In other words, how will I know that it's safe to update to the packages in that repo? When they change? Or when someone says it's ok? Or when they are "published"? I'm all for rolling-repos, but I'd like to not break Tumbleweed user's machines if at all possible. And note, I don't run KDE, so I'll just blindly keep updating the packages as you go, and I'll never know the difference, so you don't want me to be the judge of this :) thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday 04 April 2014 09:43:07 Greg KH wrote: Hello Greg,
Where will the releases be developed? In :Current? I ask as it usually takes a few days to get things settled down and working properly for a new KDE update, _and_ there are usually new packages that need to get pulled into the repo and the like.
There is a staged approach for bigger updates. e.g. KDE 4.13 will be first dropped in KDE:Distro:Factory and tested. Only when we have the confirmation that it works, the packages are moved to KDE:Current. With regards to bug fixes, we do those directly in KDE:Current as that they are just bugfixes and no new functionality is introduced. This is actually the same principle as before. bugfix releases were directly put into the respective KRXY release and for a newer version, we created a new KRX(Y+1) repository.
In other words, how will I know that it's safe to update to the packages in that repo? When they change? Or when someone says it's ok? Or when they are "published"?
When the packages are changing in that repository, then it should be safe in general to also update Tumbleweed. KDE:Current is NOT a development repository nor will there be any package in there that is not officially released. As indicated the development repository for KDE is KDE:Distro:Factory and for every new release (e.g. KDE 4.13, 4.14, etc) we are building against Factory and the current openSUSE release). Normally we have quite a number of people that are running the current openSUSE release that are testing the new release (starting with the Beta release), so once the official release is out, you could expect the update in KDE:Current after about 1 week time.
I'm all for rolling-repos, but I'd like to not break Tumbleweed user's machines if at all possible.
And we don't want to break the user machines with oS 13.1 and oS 12.3 either.:) Based on this I think that there are two ways forward, namely: 1) We stick to the old procedure. You either perform a copy of the packages (maybe a link to the packages in KDE:Current would now be better (osc linkpac -c) and then just update the link whenever you want to update the packages in Tumbleweed. 2) You keep the standard KDE packages that comes with the initial release of Tumbleweed and we start building KDE:Current against Tumbleweed. This way you do not have to worry about KDE. In my opinion the first one (and especially using the linkpac option) would be the best one. We will announce new releases in KDE:Current on the opensuse and opensuse-kde mailinglists, so that users are aware of a possibly update. At that moment you can decide to either update the links at that moment or to wait a couple of days more.
And note, I don't run KDE, so I'll just blindly keep updating the packages as you go, and I'll never know the difference, so you don't want me to be the judge of this :)
We will never ask this from you :) It is great that you are keeping Tumbleweed going and we are here to assist you in any way we can with regards to the KDE packages. Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 07:21:15PM +0200, Raymond Wooninck wrote:
On Friday 04 April 2014 09:43:07 Greg KH wrote: Hello Greg,
Where will the releases be developed? In :Current? I ask as it usually takes a few days to get things settled down and working properly for a new KDE update, _and_ there are usually new packages that need to get pulled into the repo and the like.
There is a staged approach for bigger updates. e.g. KDE 4.13 will be first dropped in KDE:Distro:Factory and tested. Only when we have the confirmation that it works, the packages are moved to KDE:Current.
With regards to bug fixes, we do those directly in KDE:Current as that they are just bugfixes and no new functionality is introduced.
This is actually the same principle as before. bugfix releases were directly put into the respective KRXY release and for a newer version, we created a new KRX(Y+1) repository.
Ok, thanks, that's all I need to know, I'll make the change to point to :Current for now and see how it all works out. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 02:26:55PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 07:21:15PM +0200, Raymond Wooninck wrote:
On Friday 04 April 2014 09:43:07 Greg KH wrote: Hello Greg,
Where will the releases be developed? In :Current? I ask as it usually takes a few days to get things settled down and working properly for a new KDE update, _and_ there are usually new packages that need to get pulled into the repo and the like.
There is a staged approach for bigger updates. e.g. KDE 4.13 will be first dropped in KDE:Distro:Factory and tested. Only when we have the confirmation that it works, the packages are moved to KDE:Current.
With regards to bug fixes, we do those directly in KDE:Current as that they are just bugfixes and no new functionality is introduced.
This is actually the same principle as before. bugfix releases were directly put into the respective KRXY release and for a newer version, we created a new KRX(Y+1) repository.
Ok, thanks, that's all I need to know, I'll make the change to point to :Current for now and see how it all works out.
It took some work (obs didn't like the old stale package links), but I think I got it all straightened out. Should take a day or so to settle down with all of the package builds, so let's see how it works out then. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 01:12:59PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 02:26:55PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 07:21:15PM +0200, Raymond Wooninck wrote:
On Friday 04 April 2014 09:43:07 Greg KH wrote: Hello Greg,
Where will the releases be developed? In :Current? I ask as it usually takes a few days to get things settled down and working properly for a new KDE update, _and_ there are usually new packages that need to get pulled into the repo and the like.
There is a staged approach for bigger updates. e.g. KDE 4.13 will be first dropped in KDE:Distro:Factory and tested. Only when we have the confirmation that it works, the packages are moved to KDE:Current.
With regards to bug fixes, we do those directly in KDE:Current as that they are just bugfixes and no new functionality is introduced.
This is actually the same principle as before. bugfix releases were directly put into the respective KRXY release and for a newer version, we created a new KRX(Y+1) repository.
Ok, thanks, that's all I need to know, I'll make the change to point to :Current for now and see how it all works out.
It took some work (obs didn't like the old stale package links), but I think I got it all straightened out. Should take a day or so to settle down with all of the package builds, so let's see how it works out then.
Hey, that was faster than expected... If someone could do a 'zypper dup' on the tumbleweed repo, and let me know if there are any problems with it or not, that would be great. I'm away from my openSUSE box at the moment, and my virtual machine just ran out of disk space :( thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Greg KH writes:
If someone could do a 'zypper dup' on the tumbleweed repo, and let me know if there are any problems with it or not, that would be great. I'm away from my openSUSE box at the moment, and my virtual machine just ran out of disk space :(
At least from the mirror I'm using, this is still incomplete. A "dup" would upgrade about a third of the packages to 4.12.4, but downgrade the rest of the packages from 4.12.3 to 4.11.x, falling back to openSUSE-current-Update-OSS. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Waldorf MIDI Implementation & additional documentation: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfDocs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 09:10:47AM +0200, Achim Gratz wrote:
Greg KH writes:
If someone could do a 'zypper dup' on the tumbleweed repo, and let me know if there are any problems with it or not, that would be great. I'm away from my openSUSE box at the moment, and my virtual machine just ran out of disk space :(
At least from the mirror I'm using, this is still incomplete. A "dup" would upgrade about a third of the packages to 4.12.4, but downgrade the rest of the packages from 4.12.3 to 4.11.x, falling back to openSUSE-current-Update-OSS.
Can you try again? Everything says it is pushed properly out, and the packages all seem to be correct as well. What packages are wanting to be downgraded? thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Greg KH writes:
Can you try again? Everything says it is pushed properly out, and the packages all seem to be correct as well.
Yes. However, Tumbleweed didn't refresh, so no new packages arrived in the repo/mirror since morning.
What packages are wanting to be downgraded?
There are a few packages that I expect to downgrade since you've based it off a new source and they started to have new build numbers. The rest reverts to openSUSE-current-Update-OSS and an earlier KDE version and that can't be right. --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- The following 111 packages are going to be downgraded: NetworkManager-kde4-libs 0.9.0.10-3.1 -> 0.9.0.10-2.8.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE NetworkManager-kde4-libs-lang 0.9.0.10-3.1 -> 0.9.0.10-2.1 noarch Tumbleweed obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed akonadi 4.12.3-4.12 -> 4.11.5-460.5 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE akonadi-runtime 1.11.0-3.1 -> 1.10.3-7.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE ark 4.12.3-3.1 -> 4.11.5-196.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE dolphin 4.12.3-3.16 -> 4.11.5-474.8 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE gwenview 4.12.3-3.12 -> 4.11.5-356.13 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kactivities4 4.12.3-3.1 -> 4.11.5-528.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kaddressbook 4.12.3-4.12 -> 4.11.5-460.5 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE 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On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 07:17:21PM +0200, Achim Gratz wrote:
Greg KH writes:
Can you try again? Everything says it is pushed properly out, and the packages all seem to be correct as well.
Yes. However, Tumbleweed didn't refresh, so no new packages arrived in the repo/mirror since morning.
What packages are wanting to be downgraded?
There are a few packages that I expect to downgrade since you've based it off a new source and they started to have new build numbers. The rest reverts to openSUSE-current-Update-OSS and an earlier KDE version and that can't be right.
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- The following 111 packages are going to be downgraded: NetworkManager-kde4-libs 0.9.0.10-3.1 -> 0.9.0.10-2.8.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE NetworkManager-kde4-libs-lang 0.9.0.10-3.1 -> 0.9.0.10-2.1 noarch Tumbleweed obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed akonadi 4.12.3-4.12 -> 4.11.5-460.5 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE akonadi-runtime 1.11.0-3.1 -> 1.10.3-7.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE ark 4.12.3-3.1 -> 4.11.5-196.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE dolphin 4.12.3-3.16 -> 4.11.5-474.8 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE gwenview 4.12.3-3.12 -> 4.11.5-356.13 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kactivities4 4.12.3-3.1 -> 4.11.5-528.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kaddressbook 4.12.3-4.12 -> 4.11.5-460.5 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kapman 4.12.3-3.11 -> 4.11.5-124.15 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kate 4.12.3-3.15 -> 4.11.5-456.7 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kcalc 4.12.3-3.12 -> 4.11.5-160.9 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kcolorchooser 4.12.3-3.1 -> 4.11.5-322.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kde-gtk-config 2.2.1-2.4 -> 2.2.1-2.1.3 i586 openSUSE-current OSS openSUSE kde4-filesystem 4.12.1-3.1 -> 4.12.1-2.1 i586 Tumbleweed obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed kde4-kgreeter-plugins 4.11.7-4.7 -> 4.11.6-107.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kde4-print-manager 4.12.3-3.1 -> 4.11.5-124.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdeartwork4-desktopthemes 4.12.3-3.14 -> 4.11.5-143.11 noarch openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdeartwork4-screensaver 4.12.3-3.14 -> 4.11.5-143.11 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdebase4-artwork 4.12.3-3.1 -> 4.11.5-142.1 noarch openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdebase4-libkonq 4.12.3-3.16 -> 4.11.5-474.8 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdebase4-nsplugin 4.12.3-3.16 -> 4.11.5-474.8 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdebase4-runtime 4.12.3-3.16 -> 4.11.5-478.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdebase4-session 4.12-3.1 -> 4.12-2.1 noarch Tumbleweed obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed kdebase4-workspace 4.11.7-4.7 -> 4.11.6-107.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdebase4-workspace-ksysguardd 4.11.7-4.7 -> 4.11.6-107.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdebase4-workspace-liboxygenstyle 4.11.7-4.7 -> 4.11.6-107.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdebase4-workspace-plasma-calendar 4.11.7-4.7 -> 4.11.6-107.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdelibs4 4.12.3-3.12 -> 4.11.5-480.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdelibs4-core 4.12.3-3.12 -> 4.11.5-480.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdenetwork4-filesharing 4.12.3-3.1 -> 4.11.5-102.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdepasswd 4.12.3-3.16 -> 4.11.5-474.8 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdepim4 4.12.3-4.12 -> 4.11.5-460.5 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdepim4-runtime 4.12.3-3.2 -> 4.11.5-457.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdepimlibs4 4.12.3-3.14 -> 4.11.5-478.4 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdf 4.12.3-3.12 -> 4.11.5-154.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdialog 4.12.3-3.16 -> 4.11.5-474.8 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdm 4.11.7-4.7 -> 4.11.6-107.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kdnssd 4.12.3-3.1 -> 4.11.5-116.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE keditbookmarks 4.12.3-3.16 -> 4.11.5-474.8 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kfind 4.12.3-3.16 -> 4.11.5-474.8 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kfloppy 4.12.3-3.12 -> 4.11.5-154.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kgamma 4.12.3-3.1 -> 4.11.5-334.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kget 4.12.3-3.1 -> 4.11.5-116.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kgpg 4.12.3-3.12 -> 4.11.5-154.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kio_audiocd 4.12.3-3.14 -> 4.11.5-172.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kio_kamera 4.12.3-3.1 -> 4.11.5-376.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kiriki 4.12.3-3.11 -> 4.11.5-118.8 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kmahjongg 4.12.3-3.11 -> 4.11.5-118.12 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kmail 4.12.3-4.12 -> 4.11.5-460.5 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kmines 4.12.3-3.11 -> 4.11.5-118.8 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kmix 4.12.3-3.13 -> 4.11.5-190.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE knode 4.12.3-4.12 -> 4.11.5-460.5 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE knotes 4.12.3-4.12 -> 4.11.5-460.5 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE konqueror 4.12.3-3.16 -> 4.11.5-474.8 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE konqueror-plugins 4.12.3-3.16 -> 4.11.5-474.8 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE konsole 4.12.3-3.1 -> 4.11.5-446.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kontact 4.12.3-4.12 -> 4.11.5-460.5 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kopete 4.12.3-3.12 -> 4.11.5-98.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE korganizer 4.12.3-4.12 -> 4.11.5-460.5 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kpat 4.12.3-3.11 -> 4.11.5-118.8 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE krdc 4.12.3-3.12 -> 4.11.5-99.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kreversi 4.12.3-3.11 -> 4.11.5-118.9 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE krfb 4.12.3-3.1 -> 4.11.5-99.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kscd 4.12.3-3.1 -> 4.11.5-190.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kscreen 1.0.2.1-3.10 -> 1.0.2.1-3.4.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kscreen-lang 1.0.2.1-3.10 -> 1.0.2.1-2.1 noarch Tumbleweed obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed ksnapshot 4.12.3-3.1 -> 4.11.5-280.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE ksudoku 4.12.3-3.11 -> 4.11.5-118.8 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kwalletmanager 4.12.3-3.11 -> 4.11.5-138.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kwin 4.11.7-4.7 -> 4.11.6-107.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE kwrite 4.12.3-3.15 -> 4.11.5-456.7 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE libakonadiprotocolinternals1 1.11.0-3.1 -> 1.10.3-7.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE libattica0_4 0.4.2-3.1 -> 0.4.2-2.1 i586 Tumbleweed obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed libkcddb4 4.12.3-3.1 -> 4.11.5-170.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE libkcompactdisc4 4.12.3-3.1 -> 4.11.5-170.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE libkde4 4.12.3-3.12 -> 4.11.5-480.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE libkdecore4 4.12.3-3.12 -> 4.11.5-480.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE libkdepim4 4.12.3-4.12 -> 4.11.5-460.5 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE libkfbapi-lang 1.0-4.1 -> 1.0-2.1 i586 Tumbleweed obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed libkfbapi1 1.0-4.1 -> 1.0-2.1 i586 Tumbleweed obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed libkonq5 4.12.3-3.16 -> 4.11.5-474.8 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE libkscreen 1.0.2-4.1 -> 1.0.2-2.1 i586 Tumbleweed obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed libkscreen1 1.0.2-4.1 -> 1.0.2-2.1 i586 Tumbleweed obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed libktexteditor 4.12.3-3.15 -> 4.11.5-456.7 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE libortp9 0.22.0-3.1 -> 0.22.0-2.1 i586 Tumbleweed obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed libraw10 0.16.0-3.1 -> 0.16.0-2.1 i586 Tumbleweed obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed libsoprano4 2.9.4-3.10 -> 2.9.4-2.1 i586 Tumbleweed obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed marble 4.12.3-3.14 -> 4.11.5-186.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE marble-data 4.12.3-3.14 -> 4.11.5-186.3 noarch openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE marble-doc 4.12.3-3.14 -> 4.11.5-186.3 noarch openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE nepomuk-core 4.12.3-3.14 -> 4.11.5-137.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE okular 4.12.3-3.1 -> 4.11.5-150.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE plasma-addons 4.12.3-3.18 -> 4.11.5-318.2 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE plasma-addons-akonadi 4.12.3-3.18 -> 4.11.5-318.2 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE plasma-addons-lancelot 4.12.3-3.18 -> 4.11.5-318.2 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE plasma-addons-marble 4.12.3-3.18 -> 4.11.5-318.2 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE plasmoid-folderview 4.12.3-3.16 -> 4.11.5-474.8 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE plasmoid-networkmanagement 0.9.0.10-3.1 -> 0.9.0.10-2.8.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE python-kde4 4.12.3-3.15 -> 4.11.5-304.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE python-kde4-akonadi 4.12.3-3.15 -> 4.11.5-304.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE python-kde4-khtml 4.12.3-3.15 -> 4.11.5-304.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE python-kde4-knewstuff 4.12.3-3.15 -> 4.11.5-304.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE python-kde4-nepomuk 4.12.3-3.15 -> 4.11.5-304.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE python-kde4-phonon 4.12.3-3.15 -> 4.11.5-304.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE python-kde4-plasma 4.12.3-3.15 -> 4.11.5-304.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE python-kde4-soprano 4.12.3-3.15 -> 4.11.5-304.3 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE python-kdebase4 4.11.7-4.7 -> 4.11.6-107.1 i586 openSUSE-current-Update-OSS openSUSE shared-desktop-ontologies 0.11.0-3.1 -> 0.11.0-2.1 noarch Tumbleweed obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed soprano 2.9.4-3.10 -> 2.9.4-2.1 i586 Tumbleweed obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed soprano-backend-redland 2.9.4-3.10 -> 2.9.4-2.1 i586 Tumbleweed obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
Ick, that's not good, I must be missing some dependancy somewhere. I'll work on fixing this on Monday, if someone doesn't beat me to it by then. Sorry about this... greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday, April 06, 2014 10:39:41 AM Greg KH wrote:
On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 07:17:21PM +0200, Achim Gratz wrote:
Greg KH writes:
Can you try again? Everything says it is pushed properly out, and the packages all seem to be correct as well.
Yes. However, Tumbleweed didn't refresh, so no new packages arrived in the repo/mirror since morning.
What packages are wanting to be downgraded?
There are a few packages that I expect to downgrade since you've based it off a new source and they started to have new build numbers. The rest reverts to openSUSE-current-Update-OSS and an earlier KDE version and that can't be right.
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
The following 111 packages are going to be downgraded: NetworkManager-kde4-libs
snip
Ick, that's not good, I must be missing some dependancy somewhere. I'll work on fixing this on Monday, if someone doesn't beat me to it by then.
Sorry about this...
greg k-h
Had the same problem. Did a zypper up and got a very smooth update. No complaints no downgrades, only Tumbleweed upgrades. Regards, Constant -- Linux User 183145 using KDE4 and LXDE on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 13.1 (i586) Kernel: 3.14.0-23.gfa168d7-default KDE Development Platform: 4.12.4 12:33pm up 16:59, 3 users, load average: 2.48, 1.73, 1.36 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 12:37:24PM +0700, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
On Sunday, April 06, 2014 10:39:41 AM Greg KH wrote:
On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 07:17:21PM +0200, Achim Gratz wrote:
Greg KH writes:
Can you try again? Everything says it is pushed properly out, and the packages all seem to be correct as well.
Yes. However, Tumbleweed didn't refresh, so no new packages arrived in the repo/mirror since morning.
What packages are wanting to be downgraded?
There are a few packages that I expect to downgrade since you've based it off a new source and they started to have new build numbers. The rest reverts to openSUSE-current-Update-OSS and an earlier KDE version and that can't be right.
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
The following 111 packages are going to be downgraded: NetworkManager-kde4-libs
snip
Ick, that's not good, I must be missing some dependancy somewhere. I'll work on fixing this on Monday, if someone doesn't beat me to it by then.
Sorry about this...
greg k-h
Had the same problem. Did a zypper up and got a very smooth update. No complaints no downgrades, only Tumbleweed upgrades.
Great, thanks for letting me know. greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Greg KH writes:
Ick, that's not good, I must be missing some dependancy somewhere. I'll work on fixing this on Monday, if someone doesn't beat me to it by then.
It seems that Tumbleweed is missing the openSUSE branding. The actual packages for KDE 4.12.4 are in Tumbleweed, but they choke on the missing branding (upstream branding is there, but I've not tried to switch to it). If I lock *branding-openSUSE, then zypper dup calculates an update list that seems to be correct. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptation for Waldorf microQ V2.22R2: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 11:04:27AM +0200, Achim Gratz wrote:
Greg KH writes:
Ick, that's not good, I must be missing some dependancy somewhere. I'll work on fixing this on Monday, if someone doesn't beat me to it by then.
It seems that Tumbleweed is missing the openSUSE branding. The actual packages for KDE 4.12.4 are in Tumbleweed, but they choke on the missing branding (upstream branding is there, but I've not tried to switch to it).
You have to switch to upstream branding to get tumbleweed to work, that's a long-standing issue that I do not know how to resolve. Try doing that to see if it solves your issue.
If I lock *branding-openSUSE, then zypper dup calculates an update list that seems to be correct.
Good, or just remove that package, and the upstream package should be installed automatically, and then it should all work. GNOME has this same issue, so it's not a KDE thing. Someday it will be resolved, but I doubt any year soon... thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Greg KH writes:
You have to switch to upstream branding to get tumbleweed to work, that's a long-standing issue that I do not know how to resolve. Try doing that to see if it solves your issue.
I'm fairly certain that the openSUSE branding packages installed on my machine came from Tumbleweed (initially from 13.1 of course), so I don't understand why this changes now. It seems I can switch branding to basedonopensuse instead of upstream, but I don't really know what both these options would change. If somebody could tell me please, I'm not really keen on having to re-configure my whole desktop. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ DIY Stuff: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/DIY.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Achim Gratz writes:
I'm fairly certain that the openSUSE branding packages installed on my machine came from Tumbleweed (initially from 13.1 of course), so I don't understand why this changes now.
After some unsuccessful experimentation with locks I've decided to add KDE:Current as a low-priority repo, which at least shows what packages are missing from Tumbleweed: The following 10 packages are going to change vendor: kdebase4-openSUSE openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> KDE kdebase4-openSUSE-lang openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> KDE kdebase4-runtime-branding-openSUSE openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> KDE kdebase4-workspace-branding-openSUSE openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> KDE kdelibs4-branding-openSUSE openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> KDE kdm-branding-openSUSE openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> KDE ksplash-qml-branding-openSUSE openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> KDE ksplashx-branding-openSUSE openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> KDE susegreeter-branding-openSUSE openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> KDE libprison0 openSUSE -> KDE The last library is another package that apparently didn't transfer to Tumbleweed, not sure if it's important or not. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Factory and User Sound Singles for Waldorf Q+, Q and microQ: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSounds -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 07 April 2014 20:11:10 Achim Gratz wrote:
Achim Gratz writes: The following 10 packages are going to change vendor: kdebase4-openSUSE openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> KDE kdebase4-openSUSE-lang openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> KDE kdebase4-runtime-branding-openSUSE openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> KDE kdebase4-workspace-branding-openSUSE openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> KDE kdelibs4-branding-openSUSE openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> KDE kdm-branding-openSUSE openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> KDE ksplash-qml-branding-openSUSE openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> KDE ksplashx-branding-openSUSE openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> KDE susegreeter-branding-openSUSE openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> KDE
Hi Achim, As I indicated in my previous message there are two KDE branding packages that are not building due to missing dependencies. These packages deliver exactly the above mentioned packages. (main packages are kde-branding-openSUSE and kdebase4-openSUSE).
libprison0 openSUSE -> KDE
The last library is another package that apparently didn't transfer to Tumbleweed, not sure if it's important or not.
This is a library that allows you to use barcodes for the kaddressbook. At this moment I guess that the standard package from the 13.1 repo is taken, which is fine. The solution is simple as that there is only one missing package in Tumbleweed (desktop-data-openSUSE) that needs to be updated as that the branding-openSUSE package was updated in version Temporary solution would be indeed to lock the branding packages and to update from Tumbleweed. Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Raymond Wooninck writes:
As I indicated in my previous message there are two KDE branding packages that are not building due to missing dependencies. These packages deliver exactly the above mentioned packages. (main packages are kde-branding-openSUSE and kdebase4-openSUSE).
Yes, I saw that only after I've sent my posting. Thanks for having a look and offering a solution.
Temporary solution would be indeed to lock the branding packages and to update from Tumbleweed.
I'll wait until Tumbleweed is fixed rather than creating a chance to mess up my installation. There aren't any urgent fixes waiting. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptation for Waldorf Blofeld V1.15B11: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 07:19:31PM +0200, Achim Gratz wrote:
Greg KH writes:
You have to switch to upstream branding to get tumbleweed to work, that's a long-standing issue that I do not know how to resolve. Try doing that to see if it solves your issue.
I'm fairly certain that the openSUSE branding packages installed on my machine came from Tumbleweed (initially from 13.1 of course), so I don't understand why this changes now. It seems I can switch branding to basedonopensuse instead of upstream, but I don't really know what both these options would change. If somebody could tell me please, I'm not really keen on having to re-configure my whole desktop.
Nothing to reconfigure, this is just the splash screen and stuff like that. As for "why now", this happens every time in Tumbleweed, once a major desktop upgrade happens. Happened for GNOME before, and I'm pretty sure for KDE as well. I'd love to be able to find the root problem, without having to jump the version to 13.2, but maybe that's really the only way forward now... greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
* Greg KH
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 11:04:27AM +0200, Achim Gratz wrote:
Greg KH writes:
Ick, that's not good, I must be missing some dependancy somewhere. I'll work on fixing this on Monday, if someone doesn't beat me to it by then.
It seems that Tumbleweed is missing the openSUSE branding. The actual packages for KDE 4.12.4 are in Tumbleweed, but they choke on the missing branding (upstream branding is there, but I've not tried to switch to it).
You have to switch to upstream branding to get tumbleweed to work, that's a long-standing issue that I do not know how to resolve. Try doing that to see if it solves your issue.
I am not sure that this is *universally* true, ie: rpm -qa *branding-openSUSE thunar-volman-branding-openSUSE-4.10.0-20.1.1.noarch gfxboot-branding-openSUSE-13.2-3.11.noarch hicolor-icon-theme-branding-openSUSE-13.1-2.1.2.noarch wallpaper-branding-openSUSE-13.1-10.4.13.noarch MozillaFirefox-branding-openSUSE-21-2.1.2.x86_64 ksplash-qml-branding-openSUSE-13.1-10.4.13.noarch yast2-qt-branding-openSUSE-13.2-3.11.noarch splashy-branding-openSUSE-0.3.13-44.1.2.x86_64 grub2-branding-openSUSE-13.2-3.11.noarch libxfce4ui-branding-openSUSE-4.10.0-20.1.1.noarch midori-branding-openSUSE-4.10.0-20.1.1.noarch kdelibs4-branding-openSUSE-13.1-3.1.noarch systemd-presets-branding-openSUSE-0.3.0-3.4.1.noarch yast2-branding-openSUSE-3.0.0-2.1.2.noarch kdm-branding-openSUSE-13.1-3.1.noarch plymouth-branding-openSUSE-13.2-3.11.noarch gnome-menus-branding-openSUSE-13.1-2.2.2.noarch libreoffice-branding-openSUSE-4.0-2.1.2.noarch susegreeter-branding-openSUSE-13.1-10.4.13.noarch dynamic-wallpaper-branding-openSUSE-13.2-3.11.noarch ksplashx-branding-openSUSE-13.1-10.4.13.noarch branding-openSUSE-13.2-3.11.noarch
If I lock *branding-openSUSE, then zypper dup calculates an update list that seems to be correct.
This also works for me, although, I still had ~10 items which required downgrading. Further examination of those items revealed that their version was only available in (System Packages), probably versioning differences, so I allowed the downgrade and see no problems as long as 'lock *branding-openSUSE' is employed. I do have more than the recommended repos :^). tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 07 April 2014 10:03:16 Greg KH wrote:
You have to switch to upstream branding to get tumbleweed to work, that's a long-standing issue that I do not know how to resolve. Try doing that to see if it solves your issue.
Hi Greg, Based on the issue reported, I had a look at the Tumbleweed repository. The first thing that I noticed is that the required branding packages for KDE (kde-branding-openSUSE and kdebase4-openSUSE) are both set to unresolvable. Checking further this is caused as that the package desktop-data-openSUSE is expecting a wallpaper-branding 13.1 version. Which in the Tumbleweed repository will never happen as that your branding package (branding-openSUSE) is version 13.2. I assume that this is causing the issue with regards to the branding packages. Two ways to resolve it: 1) Include the desktop-data-openSUSE package into the Tumbleweed repository and bump the version to 13.2 (At this moment you could take the package from Factory) 2) Keep the branding-openSUSE package at the correct version of 13.1 and only bump the versioning here with every real openSUSE update. I guess at this moment option 1 would be the easiest and fastest, but in the future it might be good to keep the branding packages at the original version. This should resolve at least the issue with the KDE branding packages and most likely it should also resolve the issue with the gnome branding packages. (Copying Dominique on this email as well) Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 07:48:21PM +0200, Raymond Wooninck wrote:
On Monday 07 April 2014 10:03:16 Greg KH wrote:
You have to switch to upstream branding to get tumbleweed to work, that's a long-standing issue that I do not know how to resolve. Try doing that to see if it solves your issue.
Hi Greg,
Based on the issue reported, I had a look at the Tumbleweed repository. The first thing that I noticed is that the required branding packages for KDE (kde-branding-openSUSE and kdebase4-openSUSE) are both set to unresolvable. Checking further this is caused as that the package desktop-data-openSUSE is expecting a wallpaper-branding 13.1 version. Which in the Tumbleweed repository will never happen as that your branding package (branding-openSUSE) is version 13.2.
Hm, how is everything working properly in KDE:Current then, without this issue?
I assume that this is causing the issue with regards to the branding packages. Two ways to resolve it:
1) Include the desktop-data-openSUSE package into the Tumbleweed repository and bump the version to 13.2 (At this moment you could take the package from Factory)
Why doesn't KDE:Current need this package?
2) Keep the branding-openSUSE package at the correct version of 13.1 and only bump the versioning here with every real openSUSE update.
Bump the versioning where?
I guess at this moment option 1 would be the easiest and fastest, but in the future it might be good to keep the branding packages at the original version.
Yes, I wanted to keep things branded the same, if at all possible. So, how does KDE:Current not have this same problem when building for 13.1? thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Greg KH writes:
1) Include the desktop-data-openSUSE package into the Tumbleweed repository and bump the version to 13.2 (At this moment you could take the package from Factory)
Why doesn't KDE:Current need this package?
Because it is not having an uprev openSUSE-branding package (or that package at all, so it uses the one from 13.1 to resolve).
2) Keep the branding-openSUSE package at the correct version of 13.1 and only bump the versioning here with every real openSUSE update.
Bump the versioning where?
At the moment, keep the version of that package at 13.1, then bump it to 13.2 only after openSUSE-current rolls over.
I guess at this moment option 1 would be the easiest and fastest, but in the future it might be good to keep the branding packages at the original version.
Yes, I wanted to keep things branded the same, if at all possible.
So, how does KDE:Current not have this same problem when building for 13.1?
It happily uses the 13.1 branding package I would assume. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptations for KORG EX-800 and Poly-800MkII V0.9: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#KorgSDada -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 08:40:51PM +0200, Achim Gratz wrote:
Greg KH writes:
1) Include the desktop-data-openSUSE package into the Tumbleweed repository and bump the version to 13.2 (At this moment you could take the package from Factory)
Why doesn't KDE:Current need this package?
Because it is not having an uprev openSUSE-branding package (or that package at all, so it uses the one from 13.1 to resolve).
Odd, I wonder why I have that in the Tumbleweed repo, let me disable it and see if something else breaks... thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 08:40:51PM +0200, Achim Gratz wrote:
Greg KH writes:
1) Include the desktop-data-openSUSE package into the Tumbleweed repository and bump the version to 13.2 (At this moment you could take the package from Factory)
Why doesn't KDE:Current need this package?
Because it is not having an uprev openSUSE-branding package (or that package at all, so it uses the one from 13.1 to resolve).
Odd, I wonder why I have that in the Tumbleweed repo, let me disable it and see if something else breaks... thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 07 April 2014 11:37:29 Greg KH wrote:
Hm, how is everything working properly in KDE:Current then, without this issue?
Hi Greg, In KDE:Current we have the branding-openSUSE package there, but it is disabled. We only need the kde-branding-openSUSE stuff from that package in case we bump the KDE SC version from 4.12 to 4.13.
Why doesn't KDE:Current need this package?
KDE:Current doesn't need this particular package as that it relies on the underlying branding-openSUSE package from the oS version it builds against. KDE:Current will not change any openSUSE branding :)
2) Keep the branding-openSUSE package at the correct version of 13.1 and only bump the versioning here with every real openSUSE update.
Bump the versioning where?
I noticed that you are building the branding-openSUSE package with version 13.2. Tumbleweed is actually based on 13.1, so this is causing issues with all kind of branding packages. As that you are building against openSUSE 13.1 anyway, you should just disable this package (DO NOT DELETE, as that we need kde-branding-openSUSE) and only delete the binaries build from branding- openSUSE. Hope this clarifies it a little further :) Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 08:56:02PM +0200, Raymond Wooninck wrote:
On Monday 07 April 2014 11:37:29 Greg KH wrote:
Hm, how is everything working properly in KDE:Current then, without this issue?
Hi Greg,
In KDE:Current we have the branding-openSUSE package there, but it is disabled. We only need the kde-branding-openSUSE stuff from that package in case we bump the KDE SC version from 4.12 to 4.13.
Why doesn't KDE:Current need this package?
KDE:Current doesn't need this particular package as that it relies on the underlying branding-openSUSE package from the oS version it builds against. KDE:Current will not change any openSUSE branding :)
2) Keep the branding-openSUSE package at the correct version of 13.1 and only bump the versioning here with every real openSUSE update.
Bump the versioning where?
I noticed that you are building the branding-openSUSE package with version 13.2. Tumbleweed is actually based on 13.1, so this is causing issues with all kind of branding packages. As that you are building against openSUSE 13.1 anyway, you should just disable this package (DO NOT DELETE, as that we need kde-branding-openSUSE) and only delete the binaries build from branding- openSUSE.
Ok, I just did that, but it still looks like it's not working properly. Maybe the build system needs a bit of time to settle down, but if you could take a look at it to see what I did wrong here, I'd apprecite it. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 07 April 2014 12:18:32 Greg KH wrote:
Ok, I just did that, but it still looks like it's not working properly. Maybe the build system needs a bit of time to settle down, but if you could take a look at it to see what I did wrong here, I'd apprecite it.
Hi Greg, What I noticed is that you indeed disabled the package and you disabled the "use for build" flags. But this will not really have the effect that you are seeking. You need to remove the binaries that branding-openSUSE created. Either through the webui or by using osc: osc wipebinaries -a openSUSE:Tumbleweed branding-openSUSE Or go to the package details in the webui and click on standard. Then you see the binaries it has build. There you have to delete for both i586 and x86_64. Without these binaries being deleted, the issue will remain Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Greg KH writes:
Ok, I just did that, but it still looks like it's not working properly. Maybe the build system needs a bit of time to settle down, but if you could take a look at it to see what I did wrong here, I'd apprecite it.
Just to let you know that this issue has been fully resolved and a zypper dup produced a flawless update. Many thanks to you and Raymond! Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Samples for the Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldSamplesExtra -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 11:40:39PM +0200, Achim Gratz wrote:
Greg KH writes:
Ok, I just did that, but it still looks like it's not working properly. Maybe the build system needs a bit of time to settle down, but if you could take a look at it to see what I did wrong here, I'd apprecite it.
Just to let you know that this issue has been fully resolved and a zypper dup produced a flawless update. Many thanks to you and Raymond!
Thanks for letting us know. Raymond did all the hard work, I just did what he told me to do :) greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 08 April 2014 14:54:51 Greg KH wrote:
Just to let you know that this issue has been fully resolved and a zypper dup produced a flawless update. Many thanks to you and Raymond!
Thanks for letting us know. Raymond did all the hard work, I just did what he told me to do :)
I was fortunate for two things :) The first thing is that I already went through a similar exercise with the KDE:Release:XY repositories and the maintenance updates. The branding is one of the more difficult items as that a lot of things are depending on it. That is why we also choose for a different technical setup for the KDE branding to avoid the need for rebuilding branding files. Secondly I was fortunate that Greg is a great listener and follower :) Tumbleweed should be in the right shape now, but lets see with the next KDE update. Expectations is that this would be sometime end of April/beginning of May when we have KDE 4.13 released. As indicated KDE 4.13 will not be put in KDE:Current directly but first tested for 1 to 2 weeks in KDE:Distro:Factory to ensure that the packages are working. Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 09.04.2014 07:47, Raymond Wooninck wrote:
On Tuesday 08 April 2014 14:54:51 Greg KH wrote:
Just to let you know that this issue has been fully resolved and a zypper dup produced a flawless update. Many thanks to you and Raymond!
Thanks for letting us know. Raymond did all the hard work, I just did what he told me to do :)
I was fortunate for two things :) The first thing is that I already went No need to excuse yourself for being great! :)
Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Stephan Kulow
Thanks for letting us know. Raymond did all the hard work, I just did what he told me to do :)
I was fortunate for two things :) The first thing is that I already went No need to excuse yourself for being great! :)
Hi Stephan, I guess there is no more way out for me. I have to accept that I am great :P Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Where will the releases be developed? In :Current? I ask as it usually takes a few days to get things settled down and working properly for a new KDE update, _and_ there are usually new packages that need to get pulled into the repo and the like.
Is there a reason you must have KDE in Tumbleweed? If not, you could simply drop it and advise people to use KDE:Current instead if they're so inclined (which then needs to be built against Tumbleweed in addition to the other targets). Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Samples for the Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldSamplesExtra -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 08:17:52PM +0200, Achim Gratz wrote:
Where will the releases be developed? In :Current? I ask as it usually takes a few days to get things settled down and working properly for a new KDE update, _and_ there are usually new packages that need to get pulled into the repo and the like.
Is there a reason you must have KDE in Tumbleweed?
Because people want it there.
If not, you could simply drop it and advise people to use KDE:Current instead if they're so inclined (which then needs to be built against Tumbleweed in addition to the other targets).
The goal of tumbleweed is to NOT have to have users pick and choose tons of different repos all the time. If we wanted them to do that, there would not be a need for Tumbleweed at all :) thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/04/14 05:17, Achim Gratz wrote:
Where will the releases be developed? In :Current? I ask as it usually takes a few days to get things settled down and working properly for a new KDE update, _and_ there are usually new packages that need to get pulled into the repo and the like. Is there a reason you must have KDE in Tumbleweed? If not, you could simply drop it and advise people to use KDE:Current instead if they're so inclined (which then needs to be built against Tumbleweed in addition to the other targets).
Am I reading this wrong? Don't you mean, "which then DOESN'T NEED to be built against Tumbleweed....."? BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday 05 April 2014 17:31:32 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 05/04/14 05:17, Achim Gratz wrote:
Is there a reason you must have KDE in Tumbleweed? If not, you could simply drop it and advise people to use KDE:Current instead if they're so inclined (which then needs to be built against Tumbleweed in addition to the other targets).
Am I reading this wrong?
Yes, you clearly are misreading this, because the statement is clear
Don't you mean, "which then DOESN'T NEED to be built against Tumbleweed....."?
If you read it thoroughly, then you would have read that Achim is proposing to drop the KDE Packages from Tumbleweed itself and to let people use packages from KDE:Current. As that KDE:Current is only building for oS 12.3 and oS 13.1, a new build target should be added which is Tumbleweed. Maybe things are said differently down under, but Achim's message was correct. However GregKH already indicated that people that use Tumbleweed wants to have a single repository as that this is and was the goal behind Tumbleweed. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/04/14 18:03, Raymond Wooninck wrote:
On Saturday 05 April 2014 17:31:32 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 05/04/14 05:17, Achim Gratz wrote:
Is there a reason you must have KDE in Tumbleweed? If not, you could simply drop it and advise people to use KDE:Current instead if they're so inclined (which then needs to be built against Tumbleweed in addition to the other targets). Am I reading this wrong? Yes, you clearly are misreading this, because the statement is clear
Don't you mean, "which then DOESN'T NEED to be built against Tumbleweed....."? If you read it thoroughly, then you would have read that Achim is proposing to drop the KDE Packages from Tumbleweed itself and to let people use packages from KDE:Current. As that KDE:Current is only building for oS 12.3 and oS 13.1, a new build target should be added which is Tumbleweed.
Maybe things are said differently down under, but Achim's message was correct. However GregKH already indicated that people that use Tumbleweed wants to have a single repository as that this is and was the goal behind Tumbleweed.
For the sake of tranquillity I will accept your interpretation of what was stated. BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
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