Hi all. In Windoze, in almost any program, I can hold down the [Alt] key and type a three-digit code to produce characters that are outside the ASCII 128. For example, [Alt]-[1]-[3]-[0] is the "e-accent-aigu" character. I use it all the time to type french accented characters or characters from other European languages when attempting to respect people's (and places') proper names. This saves me the bother of loading (and learning...) various keyboard mappings that I don't normally need or want. It's also a great deal more convenient than mouse-based pick lists. Is there an equivalent keyboard-based function in Linux or in KDE (since I'm running most of my apps in KDE, now)? Thanks, /kevin -- ** DIR-ty DEEDS, and they're DONE dirt cheap. (Sing it, now...)
On Tuesday 13 August 2002 14:55, Kevin McLauchlan wrote:
Hi all.
In Windoze, in almost any program, I can hold down the [Alt] key and type a three-digit code to produce characters that are outside the ASCII 128. For example, [Alt]-[1]-[3]-[0] is the "e-accent-aigu" character. I use it all the time to type french accented characters or characters from other European languages when attempting to respect people's (and places') proper names. This saves me the bother of loading (and learning...) various keyboard mappings that I don't normally need or want. It's also a great deal more convenient than mouse-based pick lists.
Is there an equivalent keyboard-based function in Linux or in KDE (since I'm running most of my apps in KDE, now)?
Thanks,
/kevin ======================
Kevin, The simplest way I have found to do the special characters is to use the special "compose" key combo. If you are using SuSE 8.0, the default is Right-Shift, Right-Ctrl and Left-Windows key. That puts things in motion and from there you can type your special characters easily. There is a list of the keys needed in your: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/iso8859-1/Compose directory. You can also set the compose key to most any combination you want, by changing your Xmodmap file. So there ya go! é or ë or 95° and so on! Patrick -- --- KMail v1.4.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.0 --- Amiga, SuSE Linux, PC Sales & Service Magic Page Products
Patrick writes:
The simplest way I have found to do the special characters is to use the special "compose" key combo. If you are using SuSE 8.0, the default is Right-Shift, Right-Ctrl and Left-Windows key. That puts things in motion and from there you can type your special characters easily. There is a list of the keys needed in your: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/iso8859-1/Compose directory. You can also set the compose key to most any combination you want, by changing your Xmodmap file. So there ya go! é or ë or 95° and so on!
Another Kevin here. Thanks for the info; I found the file mentioned, but I've never been able to get this to work (using a Fujitsu-Siemens Laptop with "International-English" keyboard). Can you explain more specifically the key sequence and/or where to look to solve problems with this? Thanks in advance! -- Kevin Pfeiffer International University Bremen
On Tuesday 13 August 2002 17:55, K Pfeiffer wrote:
Patrick writes:
The simplest way I have found to do the special characters is to use the special "compose" key combo. If you are using SuSE 8.0, the default is Right-Shift, Right-Ctrl and Left-Windows key. That puts things in motion and from there you can type your special characters easily. There is a list of the keys needed in your: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/iso8859-1/Compose directory. You can also set the compose key to most any combination you want, by changing your Xmodmap file. So there ya go! é or ë or 95° and so on!
Another Kevin here. Thanks for the info; I found the file mentioned, but I've never been able to get this to work (using a Fujitsu-Siemens Laptop with "International-English" keyboard).
Can you explain more specifically the key sequence and/or where to look to solve problems with this?
Thanks in advance! ====================
Hi Another Kevin ;o) Check this file to see what your compose key combo consists of with your keyboard. As I mentioned for the other Kevin, the above is the default for the standard 104 or 105 windows keyboard. Here is your file location: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Xmodmap That file will tell you how the key combination is configured for your keyboard. You can also define your own at /home/<username>/.Xmodmap Hope that helps some! Patrick -- --- KMail v1.4.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.0 --- Amiga, SuSE Linux, PC Sales & Service Magic Page Products
Hello I think that i have problem , when i log on to my SUSE 8.0 pro box using graphical login and customize my desktop settings, icons , menu s , everything stay s ok since i dont logout , next time when i log on my setting are lost and i have to set up it again. This is not case when i log as some diferent user , for example create account test and log on as test configure desktop , and other settings and that stays oki . So does somebody know what is problem and how i could solve this problem Tnx in advance
Helo,
From: Mirzoni [mailto:mirzoni@gmx.net]
Hello I think that i have problem , when i log on to my SUSE 8.0 pro box using graphical login and customize my desktop settings, icons , menu s , everything stay s ok since i dont logout , next time when i log on my setting are lost and i have to set up it again. This is not case when i log as some diferent user , for example create account test and log on as test configure desktop , and other settings and that stays oki . So does somebody know what is problem and how i could solve this problem Tnx in advance
That is exactly as it should be. You should never ever in your whole life log into kde as root (well you shouldn't do so on the console either unless REALLY needed). And that is why SuSE decided to make it impossible (well not really, it is possible if you change the file permissions) to change the environment. If you need to be root while working with kde use su, sux (great script to enable graphical output) kdesu or whatever. Regards Chris
On Wednesday 14 August 2002 16.13, Christian Herzyk wrote:
And that is why SuSE decided to make it impossible (well not really, it is possible if you change the file permissions) to change the environment.
Actually it's a bug. It's described in the sdb. It's solved by running touch /root/.skel/kdebase3
If you need to be root while working with kde use su, sux (great script to enable graphical output) kdesu or whatever.
This I agree with. Never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever log on as root. //Anders -- 'Deserves [death]. I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.' --Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings
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On Tuesday 13 August 2002 17:55, K Pfeiffer wrote:
Patrick writes:
The simplest way I have found to do the special characters is to use the special "compose" key combo. If you are using SuSE 8.0, the default is Right-Shift, Right-Ctrl and Left-Windows key. That puts things in motion and from there you can type your special characters easily. There is a list of the keys needed in your: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/iso8859-1/Compose directory. You can also set the compose key to most any combination you want, by changing your Xmodmap file. So there ya go! é or ë or 95° and so on!
Another Kevin here. Thanks for the info; I found the file mentioned, but I've never been able to get this to work (using a Fujitsu-Siemens Laptop with "International-English" keyboard).
Can you explain more specifically the key sequence and/or where to look to solve problems with this?
Original Kevin here... with US-English keyboard I'm having limited success. Some combinations do what the /Compose file says they should. Others do nothing, or give different characters than expected. For example, [Multi-key][comma][comma] is supposed to generate the cedilla. Instead, I get: a) the "«" character (looks like a compressed "<<" if I keep the [Multi-key] depressed for both [commas] b) or a dead-key that does nothing else if I type the second [comma] with [Multi-key] released. My experience with Windoze has led me to expect a certain result when a dead-key is typed, followed by a letter that can accept the modification for that particular dead-key. In this case, I was expecting that a cedilla would be added to a "c" or a "C". Also, typing the suggested combination for Udiaeresis gives the expected result, but how do I get udiaeresis (the lowercase version)? Since I'm already holding down the shift key as part of the [Multi-] key combo, I seem to get the uppercase Udiaeresis all the time. If I release the [Multi] before typing the second character of the suggested combo, I get Uacute (or some other)... This is probably something quite dumb and simple, but I'm missing it. (As you can see, I don't do this often...) /kevin -- ** DIR-ty DEEDS, and they're DONE dirt cheap. (Sing it, now...)
Kevin, Take a look to be sure you are using the iso8859-1 character set first. I think that is the default setup, but you may have changed that or your setup might have used something else. The characters, I believe, should work for you, if that is the case. You can also find other character sets at the same location: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/ Take a look to see what you are using as your default first then locate the correct directory at the above location and your special characters should be listed there, I think. ;o) I have not done extensive research into this, so someone more experienced with such things may have to jump in and enlighten both of us. As a side note, this is what your key sequence gives me for compose keys-comma-comma ( ¸ ) and this is a regular comma ( , ) Now compose keys-shifted comma-shifted comma gives: « like you mentioned. Regards, Patrick ============================ On Wednesday 14 August 2002 10:37, Kevin McLauchlan wrote:
Original Kevin here... with US-English keyboard I'm having limited success. Some combinations do what the /Compose file says they should. Others do nothing, or give different characters than expected.
For example, [Multi-key][comma][comma] is supposed to generate the cedilla. Instead, I get:
a) the "«" character (looks like a compressed "<<" if I keep the [Multi-key] depressed for both [commas]
b) or a dead-key that does nothing else if I type the second [comma] with [Multi-key] released.
My experience with Windoze has led me to expect a certain result when a dead-key is typed, followed by a letter that can accept the modification for that particular dead-key. In this case, I was expecting that a cedilla would be added to a "c" or a "C".
Also, typing the suggested combination for Udiaeresis gives the expected result, but how do I get udiaeresis (the lowercase version)? Since I'm already holding down the shift key as part of the [Multi-] key combo, I seem to get the uppercase Udiaeresis all the time. If I release the [Multi] before typing the second character of the suggested combo, I get Uacute (or some other)...
This is probably something quite dumb and simple, but I'm missing it. (As you can see, I don't do this often...)
/kevin
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Op woensdag 14 augustus 2002 16:37, schreef Kevin McLauchlan:
On Tuesday 13 August 2002 17:55, K Pfeiffer wrote:
Patrick writes:
The simplest way I have found to do the special characters is to use the special "compose" key combo. If you are using SuSE 8.0, the default is Right-Shift, Right-Ctrl and Left-Windows key.
Original Kevin here... with US-English keyboard I'm having limited success. Some combinations do what the /Compose file says they should. Others do nothing, or give different characters than expected.
On my suse 7.3 with pc-104 keyboard I changed to "US-English with dead keys" within the KDE-controlcenter (input-devices). This option was not offered in the installation and sax (bug?). However, I still cannot type the euro and some other characters in KDE (also not after changing to nl_NL@euro). In the virtual console everything works well. In the X-console only the echo-Escape sequences work, but not the compose (echo -e "\244"). In the editor nothing works. I suppose it has something to do with (not) supporting by the fonts, but I am not sure. Ruud. -------------------------------------------------------
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