On Wednesday 01 July 2009 13:21:19 Rastislav Krupanský wrote:

Krusader and Krename?

The krusader.rpm is 2.9MB, whyever, so it's bigger as all other mentioned packages together! And what does it add compared to Konqueror & Dolphin? KRename with 285KB is a more likely candidate. Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Dnia środa 01 lipiec 2009 o 14:24:45 Karsten König napisał(a):

Am Mittwoch, 1. Juli 2009 13:06:54 schrieb Stephan Binner:

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Hello,

it seems that there might be a few MB space on the KDE Live-CDs (or several MBytes if Marble would drop off). Any opinion/preferences what (small) apps should be added to the Live-CD to provide additional functionality? :-)

Some ideas:

Choqok - Twitter/Identi.ca client (240KB) KMag - Screen magnifier [for accessiblity] (260KB) Kompare - Text file comparison (350KB) KSystemLog - System log file viewer (520KB) Yakuake - Drop-down terminal (320KB)

Bye, Steve

I vote Yakuake and Krusader (both fail in providing additional functionality but are nice apps)

Thanks! Karsten And mc too! -- Pozdrawiam / Best regards, Mariusz Fik, openSUSE Community Member

On 2009/07/01 17:19 (GMT+0200) Stephan Binner composed:

Mariusz Fik wrote:

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And mc too!

Let us concentrate on desktop apps on a desktop live-cd? :-)

We wouldn't want a live openSUSE desktop CD to be a useful rescue CD, would we. Any distro I boot that doesn't have mc instantly ready & waiting is hopelessly crippled, regardless of theme or basic purpose. Knoppix rulez. -- "Cast but a glance at riches, and they are gone, for they will surely sprout wings and fly off to the sky like an eagle." Proverbs 23:5 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Op donderdag 02 juli 2009 02:13:58 schreef Rajko M.:

Let us concentrate on desktop apps on a desktop live-cd? :-)

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Bye, Steve

Then desktop Midnight Commander ;-)

Why not use konqueror, in split view. Doesn't that give the same effect as MC? Window -> Split view top/bottom or left/right. -- Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 02 July 2009, Richard Bos wrote:

Op donderdag 02 juli 2009 02:13:58 schreef Rajko M.:

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Let us concentrate on desktop apps on a desktop live-cd? :-)

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Bye, Steve

Then desktop Midnight Commander ;-)

Why not use konqueror, in split view. Doesn't that give the same effect as MC? Window -> Split view top/bottom or left/right.

-- Richard

If for some reason the live disk should fail to boot to a graphical UI, mc provides a nice interface to access your filesystem and edit files (for those not completely secure about their skill w/ vi.) You notice people aren't asking for mutt or pine, they are asking for a tool that would help troubleshoot potential problems they might run into using the live disk. It is surprising this suggestion has been met w/ so much conflict. The one tool that had the greatest number of people asking for its inclusion is meeting the greatest resistance. It does something the other tools available on the disk can't. see ya -- dh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

2009/7/3 Rajko M. :

On Thursday 02 July 2009 02:59:09 pm David Herman wrote:

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You notice people aren't asking for mutt or pine, they are asking for a tool that would help troubleshoot potential problems they might run into using the live disk.

It is funny that with so many don't find that mc as file manager, text editor and more, it is replacing many other tools in basic rescue functions.

Not to mention that mc is safer to run as root then any graphic equivalent. More reasons ?

Yes, as you mentioned, it is single application that is requested by many people that I can recognize as skilled in Linux matters.

-- Regards, Rajko http://news.opensuse.org/category/people-of-opensuse/

Hi, Please, discuss this in the thread created in -factory list not the kde one, so everyone will benefit from mc being included in all LiveCDs flavors. Regards, Luiz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 01 July 2009 14:31:16 Martin Schlander wrote:

If 'usbutils' and 'e2fsprogs' were included, the livecd would become usable as a basic rescue cd imho.

All non-desktop specific new audiences/use-cases (rescue cd, advanced console users) should be imo common to all live-cds. Please discuss them on -factory. Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On 2009/07/02 11:18 (GMT+0200) Rastislav Krupanský composed:

Many people would like twin panel file manager similar to Midnight Commander. Or as you can read in this topic, people want directly Midnight Commander. And what is the best equivalent for desktop apps? I think it´s Krusader.

Until X & Sax2 don't work. Then only MC itself will do. -- No Jesus - No peace , Know Jesus - Know Peace Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Torsdag den 2. juli 2009 14:01:13 skrev Karsten König:

Gnome users would appreciate mc as well I guess.

Question is if they have free space too >:-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Mike wrote:

On Wednesday 01 July 2009, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Stephan Binner [07-01-09 07:08]: it seems that

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there might be a few MB space on the KDE Live-CDs (or several MBytes if Marble would drop off). Any opinion/preferences what (small) apps should be added to the Live-CD to provide additional functionality?

:-)

mc

+1 Definitely!

Mike

second that -- Hans Krueger hanskrueger007@roadrunner.com registered Linux user 289023 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Stephan Binner [07-01-09 07:08]: it seems that

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there might be a few MB space on the KDE Live-CDs (or several MBytes if Marble would drop off). Any opinion/preferences what (small) apps should be added to the Live-CD to provide additional functionality? :-)

mc

+1 Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 02 July 2009 22:43:23 Marc Benstein wrote:

How about as many plasma widgets, styles, colors, and window decorations as available. The Live-CD is to check things out, right?

Wallpapers aside, are we missing any of those from the maintained repository on the CD? Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org