On Wednesday 18 April 2012 14:19:21 Nanuk Krinner wrote:

Hello,

On 04/18/2012 01:27 PM, Will Stephenson wrote: [...]

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Stability/Bugs

BNC#728554: first login attempt after boot always fails

This bug appears only on one of the machines I use regularly and has little impact. But it is very annoying and I have heard a lot of people complain about it. It's bad user experience when the first thing you notice is a bug after every boot.

Is this machine in the office? I have neglected this bug as I never found a way to reproduce it. WIll -- Will Stephenson | openSUSE Board, openSUSE Boosters Team, KDE Developer SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On 18-04-12 14:19, Nanuk Krinner wrote:

Hello,

On 04/18/2012 01:27 PM, Will Stephenson wrote: [...]

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Stability/Bugs

BNC#728554: first login attempt after boot always fails

This bug appears only on one of the machines I use regularly and has little impact. But it is very annoying and I have heard a lot of people complain about it. It's bad user experience when the first thing you notice is a bug after every boot.

Nanuk, This happens on both of my suse machines because the second letter you type is only accepted after a short (too long) pause. This happens only with the standard Suse theme. I switched to the standard kdm theme because it annoys the hell out of me. This can be done by making the setting for DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME empty in the /etc/sysconfig-editor (yast) Regards, Peter Vollebregt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

* Patrick Shanahan [04-18-12 08:46]:

74360 - kernel-desktop-3.3.0 looses wireless connection ath5k, phy0: gain callibration timeout

makes wireless virtually unusable, reboot required to reconnect.

Sorry, this is *not* kde prblm. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

Am Mittwoch 18 April 2012, 08:49:59 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

* Patrick Shanahan [04-18-12 08:46]:

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74360 - kernel-desktop-3.3.0 looses wireless connection ath5k,

phy0: gain callibration timeout

makes wireless virtually unusable, reboot required to reconnect.

Sorry, this is *not* kde prblm.

Thanks for mentioning it anyway. Bug seems to have been backported to 12.1 a few weeks ago. Really annoying. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

Am Mittwoch 18 April 2012, 16:37:22 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

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Thanks for mentioning it anyway. Bug seems to have been backported to 12.1 a few weeks ago. Really annoying.

It is solved with kernel version 3.3.2+ (or appears to be).

Too bad. Not fixed with anything 12.1 has as official updates. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 18:23 +0200, Martin Schlander wrote:

Onsdag den 18. april 2012 13:27:05 Will Stephenson skrev:

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Please add anything I've missed in reply and I'll add it to the wiki shortly and start assigning people to tasks.

Polish * Look out for bad PolicyKit defaults before release (The 'Linus' syndrome)

I wonder if this covers setting the time and date settings from the digital clock context menu.

My father had problems with 12.1 cuz he right clicked the digital clock and adjusted the settings and even configured a ntp server, but the settings would never persist after reboot. I assume that a permission issue causes this. ting correctly. I have a wireless connection that c So either KDE should be allowed to change the date/time, or else digital clock should be patched to call yast instead of an impotent KDE dialog.

I see on my up-to-date KDE 4.8.4 on openSUSE 12.1 that ntp is not starting correctly. I have a wireless connection that comes up when I log in. The ntp start seems not to happen at that time. I have to run rcntp by hand. (I know there is a new command, too...) This problem happened a while back in early 12.1 days and was corrected. But it is back again. At least on my system. Maybe that is wha is happening for your dad? It would appear settings are lost. They are not. It is just that ntp is not running. -- Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 18 Apr 2012 22:42:17 Christoph Obexer wrote:

Am 18. April 2012 13:27 schrieb Will Stephenson :

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PIM mail loss migration filtering CPU issues (done, right?) mail address autocompletion groups in kaddressbook

* configure the default KDE install in a way that does not start any Akonadi/Strigi/Virtuoso/Tracker things unless the user EXPLICITLY enables them / uses something of those services.

I'm addressing this in KLyDE (specifically, the kdebase4-klyde package that generates the branding, but it needs more work to work as a default branding packages.

* i remember the last time i used a 12.1 Live CD that kresmigrator popped up - there was no need for them

+1

* Akonadi? created a huge database logfile(?) which is a stupid thing on a live CD, and in general since KMail is basically a toy now anyway

Akonadi should already not start on its own on the livecd - if it does this is a bug.

* make it a goal that a default KDE installation with 12.2 uses less RAM then a 12.1 install (by checking the default configs to not start resource intensive things unless really NEEDED)

Good one.

-- Christoph -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Board, Booster, KDE Developer SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 18 Apr 2012 22:42:21 Markus wrote:

Am Mittwoch 18 April 2012, 13:27:05 schrieb Will Stephenson:

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Missing apps

While not a part of KDE, mesa-nouveau3d should be installed by default to get out of the box compositing for KWin with NVidia GPUs.

Any chance for not-default LightDM-KDE packages?

Dunno, it needs someone to take responsibility for it. Want to step up? Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Board, Booster, KDE Developer SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

Am Donnerstag 19 April 2012, 09:26:26 schrieb Raymond Wooninck:

However I am doubting if this is really something that we want to release. Still doesn't really work optimal, but have to check again.

Not optimal or completely broken? From what I gathered looking through Kubuntu stuff, accessibility seems to be absent from LightDM-KDE. While I agree that this could be considered a deal breaker for being default, I have the feeling that the benefits of additional testing outweigh the negative aspects, esp. since no one asks for LightDM as default right now. I have not read any news on KDM with QML since almost exactly a year http://sreich.blogspot.de/2011/04/kdm-plasma-good-news-everyone.html and last development activity on the KDM-Plasma branch was 8 months ago unless it moved to a new location I'm not aware of: <https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde- workspace/repository/show/kdm?rev=kdm-plasma> OTOH Aurélien is working like crazy on LightDM-KDE: https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/lightdm/activity I think LightDM-KDE has a real prospect to aspire for default in 12.3. Until then IMO non-default packages should be available. The package description could reflect that LightDM is not yet as mature as KDM. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On 19 April 2012 09:33, todd rme wrote:

* I remember there was an idea for 12.1 to use the fake-packman repo to allow KDE libraries and apps (and others) to build against ffmpeg and the like.  What happened with that?  The flags to build it that way seem to be there, but they aren't enabled.

The flags are used for easy linking in Packman (and home:RedDwarf:multimedia*...). But it's still a bad idea to enable them for the packages in the main repository. In most cases they would create an unavoidable dependency to Packman (fakePackman is good enough to build against, but use it at runtime and enjoy the crashes) and Packman could move to a binary incompatible version in any moment.

* are there any kde:extra apps that should be moved to KDF?  A few possibilities: bangarang, kcm-qt-graphicssystem, kde-odf-thumbnail, kde-thumbnailer-ooxml, nepomukcontroller, partitionmanager, polka, quick-usb-formatter, servicemenu-pdf, vbox-runner.  Plasmoids: plasmoid-activitymanager-wheeled, plasmoid-eYaSDP, plasmoid-fancy-tasks (if 2.0 is out), plasmoid-playwolf, plasmoid-smooth-tasks2.

kdenlive is still in a limbo between finding a real maintainer and sending it to Factory or moving it to kde:extra. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org