Hi, Having solved my system notification sounds problem (thanks to Leen Meyer) and my mail authentification problem (thanks to Sven Burmeister), I'm now on to dealing with some more minor issues. To wit: 1) Marching desktop icons. Every time I log in my icons creep around. One row moves many pixels down. Other icons move a little. This is apart from the bug (now quite old) that causes all icons to march upward on each restart of KDE or, I'm now noticing, every time the taskbar is hid (slid to the right) or unhid. 2) An alternate desktop image flashes on the screen momentarily before being overwritten by the one I configured (a dynamic image that's updated ever 15 minutes using a custom cover script for xplanet). Number (1) is really bugging me. Number (2) is quite minor. Has anybody else witnessed these symptoms? Does anyone know what's up and how I might resolve or work around them? Thank. Randall Schulz
Hi again, On Friday 18 March 2005 10:37, I wrote:
... I'm now on to dealing with some more minor issues:
1) Marching desktop icons. Every time I log in my icons creep around. One row moves many pixels down. Other icons move a little. This is apart from the bug (now quite old) that causes all icons to march upward on each restart of KDE or, I'm now noticing, every time the taskbar is hid (slid to the right) or unhid.
I need to clarify: The old bug about all icons marching up the screen happens only when the "Align to Grid" option is enabled. Randall Schulz
On Friday 18 March 2005 19:24, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Friday 18 March 2005 19:37, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Having solved my system notification sounds problem (thanks to Leen Meyer)
Bandipat deserves the credits. ;) It was his idea to recompile arts.
I recompiled arts and it didn't help me. So I've just told it to use artsplay instead of the built in audio player for notifications, and it's working for most things. -- Cheers James Ots www.jamesots.com
On Saturday 19 March 2005 00:09, James Ots wrote:
On Friday 18 March 2005 19:24, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Friday 18 March 2005 19:37, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Having solved my system notification sounds problem (thanks to Leen Meyer)
Bandipat deserves the credits. ;) It was his idea to recompile arts.
I recompiled arts and it didn't help me.
Recompiling alone is not enough. You need to install your *newly* created arts-1.4.0-8.i586.rpm also. Cheers, Leen
On Friday 18 March 2005 23:17, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Saturday 19 March 2005 00:09, James Ots wrote:
I recompiled arts and it didn't help me.
Recompiling alone is not enough. You need to install your *newly* created arts-1.4.0-8.i586.rpm also.
That's what I did. -- Cheers James Ots www.jamesots.com
On Friday 18 March 2005 06:34 pm, James Ots wrote:
On Friday 18 March 2005 23:17, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Saturday 19 March 2005 00:09, James Ots wrote:
I recompiled arts and it didn't help me.
Recompiling alone is not enough. You need to install your *newly* created arts-1.4.0-8.i586.rpm also.
That's what I did.
-- Cheers James Ots www.jamesots.com =========
James, Unless you have another problem or the compile didn't go well, that should fix it for you. Did you restart KDE after installing the new files? It would surprise me very much that a recompile of the src.rpm didn't correct the system sound problems. Did you install all 3 files? Did you also remember to install the new kdebase3-sessions file? I don't think the last one has anything to do with your sounds, but it should be installed. After installing, drop down to init3 then back to init 5. Also, you might want to clean out your /tmp directory so as to clear out any leftover 3.3 files. You need to drop down to init 1 to do that though. regards, Lee -- --- KMail v1.8 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 Sign at college bookstore: Accepted at more colleges than you were--VISA
On Friday 18 March 2005 23:54, BandiPat wrote:
James, Unless you have another problem or the compile didn't go well, that should fix it for you. Did you restart KDE after installing the new files? It would surprise me very much that a recompile of the src.rpm didn't correct the system sound problems. Did you install all 3 files? Did you also remember to install the new kdebase3-sessions file? I don't think the last one has anything to do with your sounds, but it should be installed.
After installing, drop down to init3 then back to init 5. Also, you might want to clean out your /tmp directory so as to clear out any leftover 3.3 files. You need to drop down to init 1 to do that though.
The compile went fine, and I installed all three packages. (I had installed kdebase3-sessions earlier). I was already running runlevel 3 and had exited X while I installed them, and I had cleaned out the temporary files, but still, no banana. However... I've just fiddled around some more, and in the Audio Player Settings dialog box in the System Notifications control panel, I had the volume at about 50%. And I've discovered that if I have the volume at anything other than 100% I get no sound (not even quiet sound), but at 100% it works fine. So I'll use it on that setting for now. -- Cheers James Ots www.jamesots.com
Hello-- From this link (sorry you will have to reassemble the long string) I restored my system notifications. Quoted without attribution: I read a message on a message board that said to edit (as root) the file /opt/kde3/bin/startkde. There seems to be an error on line 242: LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit The line should be split into two lines like this: LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit Apparently the knotify program wasn't getting started when KDE starts up. This fixed the problem for me. I've read several messages about rebuilding the ARTS source rpms, but I didn't have to do that. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.suse/browse_thread/\ thread/8f918e01f7007b2d/05557defa68a3154?q=arts-1.4.0-8.i586#05557defa68a3154 I hope this helps Tom Wekell
On Saturday 19 March 2005 01:44, Tom Wekell wrote:
Hello-- From this link (sorry you will have to reassemble the long string) I restored my system notifications.
Quoted without attribution: I read a message on a message board that said to edit (as root) the file /opt/kde3/bin/startkde. There seems to be an error on line 242:
Seems. But it is /not/ an error. It is good bash syntax, and intended this way.
LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit
The line should be split into two lines like this:
That is /wrong/.
LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit
Apparently the knotify program wasn't getting started when KDE starts up. This fixed the problem for me.
I've read several messages about rebuilding the ARTS source rpms, but I didn't have to do that.
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.suse/browse_thread/\ thread/8f918e01f7007b2d/05557defa68a3154?q=arts-1.4.0-8.i586#05557defa68a31 54
It is a solution, but a *wrong* solution. Please read the following thread for an explanation: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2005-Mar/2927.html Cheers, Leen
Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Saturday 19 March 2005 01:44, Tom Wekell wrote:
Hello-- From this link (sorry you will have to reassemble the long string) I restored my system notifications.
Quoted without attribution: I read a message on a message board that said to edit (as root) the file /opt/kde3/bin/startkde. There seems to be an error on line 242:
Seems. But it is /not/ an error. It is good bash syntax, and intended this way.
With my limited skill and knowledge I agree But quoting from /opt/kde3/bin/startkde: #!/bin/sh # # DEFAULT KDE STARTUP SCRIPT ( KDE-3.4 ) # I knote we are using a Bourne shell perhaps which might behave differently.
LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit
The line should be split into two lines like this:
That is /wrong/.
LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit
Isn't LD_BIND_NOW=true still set for kdeinit +kcminit and the rest of the script? Tom
Apparently the knotify program wasn't getting started when KDE starts up. This fixed the problem for me.
I've read several messages about rebuilding the ARTS source rpms, but I didn't have to do that.
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.suse/browse_thread/\ thread/8f918e01f7007b2d/05557defa68a3154?q=arts-1.4.0-8.i586#05557defa68a31 54
It is a solution, but a *wrong* solution. Please read the following thread for an explanation:
http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2005-Mar/2927.html
Cheers,
Leen
Am Sonntag, 20. März 2005 00:35 schrieb Tom Wekell:
LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit
The line should be split into two lines like this:
That is /wrong/.
LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit
Isn't LD_BIND_NOW=true still set for kdeinit +kcminit and the rest of the script? Tom
No. This way, LD_BIND_NOW=true has only effect inside the script. Commands run from that script would have no access to that value. You could export it to make it have any effect fot the executed commands, but then it is true for _every_ command after that. One would have t unset it again after that. And you would have to take care of any value it has before setting So the correct splitting would be: BACKUP_LD_BIND_NOW = $LD_BIND_NOW export LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit export LD_BIND_NOW=$BACKUP_LD_BIND_NOW or, in short: LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit :) Best, Daniel
On Saturday 19 March 2005 01:09, James Ots wrote:
And I've discovered that if I have the volume at anything other than 100% I get no sound (not even quiet sound), but at 100% it works fine. So I'll use it on that setting for now.
Just tried this, and this indeed solves my system sound problems. Set it at any else but 100% and a deafening silence is the result. Set at 100% all sound notifications work like a charm. Thanks! I had almost given up on having system sounds. (And I have such nice ones ;-)) Grtz, Frits
On Saturday 19 March 2005 00:34, James Ots wrote:
On Friday 18 March 2005 23:17, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Saturday 19 March 2005 00:09, James Ots wrote:
I recompiled arts and it didn't help me.
Recompiling alone is not enough. You need to install your *newly* created arts-1.4.0-8.i586.rpm also.
That's what I did.
Hmm, I don't feel like repeating myself ;P, so here's the whole recipe: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2005-Mar/2939.html Cheers, Leen
Am Freitag, 18. März 2005 19:37 schrieb Randall R Schulz:
Hi,
Having solved my system notification sounds problem (thanks to Leen Meyer) and my mail authentification problem (thanks to Sven Burmeister), I'm now on to dealing with some more minor issues.
Hi Randall, could you please explain in a brief how you fix your systemsound Prob. I got the same Prob and i'm really not shure what your Systemsound brougt back. Was is the new ~/.kde or the jack-devel or did you compiled arts from the sources ? Thanks Michael
Michael, On Sunday 20 March 2005 09:14, Michael Schueller wrote:
Am Freitag, 18. März 2005 19:37 schrieb Randall R Schulz:
Hi,
Having solved my system notification sounds problem (thanks to Leen Meyer) and my mail authentification problem (thanks to Sven Burmeister), I'm now on to dealing with some more minor issues.
Hi Randall, could you please explain in a brief how you fix your systemsound Prob. I got the same Prob and i'm really not shure what your Systemsound brougt back. Was is the new ~/.kde or the jack-devel or did you compiled arts from the sources ?
For me, rebuilding the arts packages from source (and installing those locally built packages) solved my sound problems. This apparently has not been sufficient to solve the broken system sounds for everyone who has the symptom. I am at a loss to explain the disparate experiences. It suggests there is more than one problem and some people have one, some have another and some have more than one of them.
Thanks Michael
Randall Schulz
Am Sonntag, 20. März 2005 18:22 schrieb Randall R Schulz:
On Sunday 20 March 2005 09:14, Michael Schueller wrote:
Am Freitag, 18. März 2005 19:37 schrieb Randall R Schulz:
Hi,
Having solved my system notification sounds problem (thanks to Leen Meyer) and my mail authentification problem (thanks to Sven Burmeister), I'm now on to dealing with some more minor issues.
Hi Randall, could you please explain in a brief how you fix your systemsound Prob. I got the same Prob and i'm really not shure what your Systemsound brougt back. Was is the new ~/.kde or the jack-devel or did you compiled arts from the sources ?
For me, rebuilding the arts packages from source (and installing those locally built packages) solved my sound problems.
Here we are, it does for me too ...
This apparently has not been sufficient to solve the broken system sounds for everyone who has the symptom.
I am at a loss to explain the disparate experiences. It suggests there is more than one problem and some people have one, some have another and some have more than one of them.
Thanks Michael
Randall Schulz
On Sunday 20 Mar 2005 17:22, Randall R Schulz wrote:
For me, rebuilding the arts packages from source (and installing those locally built packages) solved my sound problems.
This apparently has not been sufficient to solve the broken system sounds for everyone who has the symptom.
Under Control Center->Sound & Multimedia->System Notifications->Player Settings, the KDE sound system volume has to be set at 100% too. I recompiled and reinstalled arts from the source RPM too, but it was only after I set this volume to 100% that it started working again. The only sound issue I have now is I get slightly tinny/echo sound from my right speakers (left are ok), which didn't happen before (I have a SB Live card with 4 surround speakers + bass). Nothing seems to be set wrong in the mixer. Are there filters or effects that can be set elsewhere? -- Colin Pinkney http://www.cpinkney.org.uk
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