[opensuse-kde] kalarm for kdepim46 crashes
Hi, I am using openSUSE 11.3 (64 bit) with KDF and kdepim46 repos. Unfortunatelly, kalarm always crashes on startup and almost every time it is started manually. When I delete the ~/.kde4/share/apps/kalarm folder, kalarm seems not to crash the first time I use it. But at least at the first next restart of kde it crashes again. I suppose, it might have to do with the Qt patch needed, which was reported in [1]. But I am not sure. If yes, would it be possible to add a version of qt including this patch to the repos? That improve testing this version a lot ;-) Otherwise, I can also give some more information, file a bug report to kde, if needed. Regards, Stefan [1] http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2011-January/004428.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 11 February 2011 21:01:05 Stefan Vater wrote:
Hi,
I am using openSUSE 11.3 (64 bit) with KDF and kdepim46 repos. Unfortunatelly, kalarm always crashes on startup and almost every time it is started manually. When I delete the ~/.kde4/share/apps/kalarm folder, kalarm seems not to crash the first time I use it. But at least at the first next restart of kde it crashes again.
I suppose, it might have to do with the Qt patch needed, which was reported in [1]. But I am not sure. If yes, would it be possible to add a version of qt including this patch to the repos? That improve testing this version a lot ;-) Otherwise, I can also give some more information, file a bug report to kde, if needed.
Regards, Stefan
[1] http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2011-January/004428.html
If kalarm is built to use Akonadi, it will usually crash on startup unless the Qt patch you mention is applied. However, the Akonadi option is still very much under development, and is certainly not in a working state yet. Currently, the build by default does NOT use the Akonadi option, and it should be kept that way until KDE 4.7. If openSUSE 11.3 provides the Akonadi version of KAlarm, that would be a serious bug. If openSUSE 11.3 provides the non-Akonadi version of KAlarm, I don't know why it would be crashing like you describe. In that case, please raise a bug at bugs.kde.org, and supply the crash trace. -- David Jarvie. KAlarm author and maintainer. http://www.astrojar.org.uk/kalarm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
David Jarvie wrote:
On Friday 11 February 2011 21:01:05 Stefan Vater wrote:
Hi,
I am using openSUSE 11.3 (64 bit) with KDF and kdepim46 repos. Unfortunatelly, kalarm always crashes on startup and almost every time it is started manually. When I delete the ~/.kde4/share/apps/kalarm folder, kalarm seems not to crash the first time I use it. But at least at the first next restart of kde it crashes again.
I suppose, it might have to do with the Qt patch needed, which was reported in [1]. But I am not sure. If yes, would it be possible to add a version of qt including this patch to the repos? That improve testing this version a lot ;-) Otherwise, I can also give some more information, file a bug report to kde, if needed.
Regards, Stefan
[1] http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2011-January/004428.html
If kalarm is built to use Akonadi, it will usually crash on startup unless the Qt patch you mention is applied.
However, the Akonadi option is still very much under development, and is certainly not in a working state yet. Currently, the build by default does NOT use the Akonadi option, and it should be kept that way until KDE 4.7. If openSUSE 11.3 provides the Akonadi version of KAlarm, that would be a serious bug.
If openSUSE 11.3 provides the non-Akonadi version of KAlarm, I don't know why it would be crashing like you describe. In that case, please raise a bug at bugs.kde.org, and supply the crash trace.
How do I see if it is Akonadi-based. It would probably need an Akonadi- kalarm-ressource!? That I do not have. So, I will file a bug in the next days... Thanks for your quick response! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 12 February 2011 14:38:08 Stefan Vater wrote:
David Jarvie wrote:
On Friday 11 February 2011 21:01:05 Stefan Vater wrote:
Hi,
I am using openSUSE 11.3 (64 bit) with KDF and kdepim46 repos. Unfortunatelly, kalarm always crashes on startup and almost every time it is started manually. When I delete the ~/.kde4/share/apps/kalarm folder, kalarm seems not to crash the first time I use it. But at least at the first next restart of kde it crashes again.
I suppose, it might have to do with the Qt patch needed, which was reported in [1]. But I am not sure. If yes, would it be possible to add a version of qt including this patch to the repos? That improve testing this version a lot ;-) Otherwise, I can also give some more information, file a bug report to kde, if needed.
Regards, Stefan
[1] http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2011-January/004428.html
If kalarm is built to use Akonadi, it will usually crash on startup unless the Qt patch you mention is applied.
However, the Akonadi option is still very much under development, and is certainly not in a working state yet. Currently, the build by default does NOT use the Akonadi option, and it should be kept that way until KDE 4.7. If openSUSE 11.3 provides the Akonadi version of KAlarm, that would be a serious bug.
If openSUSE 11.3 provides the non-Akonadi version of KAlarm, I don't know why it would be crashing like you describe. In that case, please raise a bug at bugs.kde.org, and supply the crash trace.
How do I see if it is Akonadi-based. It would probably need an Akonadi- kalarm-ressource!? That I do not have. So, I will file a bug in the next days...
Check kalarm's version by using the Help -> About KAlarm menu option. If it is 2.4.x or 2.5.x, then it won't be an Akonadi version. (Although bear in mind that if you access the address book from KAlarm, it does use Akonadi.) I'm pretty sure that the default version of kalarm which is supplied with openSUSE 11.3 will be ok. I'd only expect any Akonadi problems for kalarm if you updated to the latest kdepim, which includes kalarm version 2.6.x. -- David Jarvie. KAlarm author and maintainer. http://www.astrojar.org.uk/kalarm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 12 February 2011 23:27:38 David Jarvie wrote:
On Saturday 12 February 2011 14:38:08 Stefan Vater wrote:
David Jarvie wrote:
On Friday 11 February 2011 21:01:05 Stefan Vater wrote:
Hi,
I am using openSUSE 11.3 (64 bit) with KDF and kdepim46 repos. Unfortunatelly, kalarm always crashes on startup and almost every time it is started manually. When I delete the ~/.kde4/share/apps/kalarm folder, kalarm seems not to crash the first time I use it. But at least at the first next restart of kde it crashes again.
I suppose, it might have to do with the Qt patch needed, which was reported in [1]. But I am not sure. If yes, would it be possible to add a version of qt including this patch to the repos? That improve testing this version a lot ;-) Otherwise, I can also give some more information, file a bug report to kde, if needed.
Regards, Stefan
[1] http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2011-January/004428.html
If kalarm is built to use Akonadi, it will usually crash on startup unless the Qt patch you mention is applied.
However, the Akonadi option is still very much under development, and is certainly not in a working state yet. Currently, the build by default does NOT use the Akonadi option, and it should be kept that way until KDE 4.7. If openSUSE 11.3 provides the Akonadi version of KAlarm, that would be a serious bug.
If openSUSE 11.3 provides the non-Akonadi version of KAlarm, I don't know why it would be crashing like you describe. In that case, please raise a bug at bugs.kde.org, and supply the crash trace.
How do I see if it is Akonadi-based. It would probably need an Akonadi- kalarm-ressource!? That I do not have. So, I will file a bug in the next days...
Check kalarm's version by using the Help -> About KAlarm menu option. If it is 2.4.x or 2.5.x, then it won't be an Akonadi version. (Although bear in mind that if you access the address book from KAlarm, it does use Akonadi.) I'm pretty sure that the default version of kalarm which is supplied with openSUSE 11.3 will be ok. I'd only expect any Akonadi problems for kalarm if you updated to the latest kdepim, which includes kalarm version 2.6.x.
Sorry, I didn't read your original post properly. I see that it does state that you're using kdepim 4.6, so it looks like it probably IS building kalarm to use Akonadi. Which is a very wrong thing to do. -- David Jarvie. KAlarm author and maintainer. http://www.astrojar.org.uk/kalarm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 12 February 2011 23:29:27 David Jarvie wrote:
On Saturday 12 February 2011 23:27:38 David Jarvie wrote:
On Saturday 12 February 2011 14:38:08 Stefan Vater wrote:
David Jarvie wrote:
On Friday 11 February 2011 21:01:05 Stefan Vater wrote:
Hi,
I am using openSUSE 11.3 (64 bit) with KDF and kdepim46 repos. Unfortunatelly, kalarm always crashes on startup and almost every time it is started manually. When I delete the ~/.kde4/share/apps/kalarm folder, kalarm seems not to crash the first time I use it. But at least at the first next restart of kde it crashes again.
I suppose, it might have to do with the Qt patch needed, which was reported in [1]. But I am not sure. If yes, would it be possible to add a version of qt including this patch to the repos? That improve testing this version a lot ;-) Otherwise, I can also give some more information, file a bug report to kde, if needed.
Regards, Stefan
[1] http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2011-January/004428.html
If kalarm is built to use Akonadi, it will usually crash on startup unless the Qt patch you mention is applied.
However, the Akonadi option is still very much under development, and is certainly not in a working state yet. Currently, the build by default does NOT use the Akonadi option, and it should be kept that way until KDE 4.7. If openSUSE 11.3 provides the Akonadi version of KAlarm, that would be a serious bug.
If openSUSE 11.3 provides the non-Akonadi version of KAlarm, I don't know why it would be crashing like you describe. In that case, please raise a bug at bugs.kde.org, and supply the crash trace.
How do I see if it is Akonadi-based. It would probably need an Akonadi- kalarm-ressource!? That I do not have. So, I will file a bug in the next days...
Check kalarm's version by using the Help -> About KAlarm menu option. If it is 2.4.x or 2.5.x, then it won't be an Akonadi version. (Although bear in mind that if you access the address book from KAlarm, it does use Akonadi.) I'm pretty sure that the default version of kalarm which is supplied with openSUSE 11.3 will be ok. I'd only expect any Akonadi problems for kalarm if you updated to the latest kdepim, which includes kalarm version 2.6.x.
Sorry, I didn't read your original post properly. I see that it does state that you're using kdepim 4.6, so it looks like it probably IS building kalarm to use Akonadi. Which is a very wrong thing to do.
And I now see that the build file for 4.6 actually does erroneously build the Akonadi version by default, which is not what I thought it did. This is now fixed in the KDE repository, but it will take time to reach the openSUSE packages. -- David Jarvie. KAlarm author and maintainer. http://www.astrojar.org.uk/kalarm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 12 February 2011 23:44:04 David Jarvie wrote:
Sorry, I didn't read your original post properly. I see that it does state that you're using kdepim 4.6, so it looks like it probably IS building kalarm to use Akonadi. Which is a very wrong thing to do Hi David,
The standard for the upcoming openSUSE 11.4 is to take the non-akonadi based KDEPIM (which I believe is 4.4.10). However in order to facilitate testing of the newer KDEPIM 4.6 version for those that are willing to take the risk, we provide a separate KDEPIM46 repo which is build against 4.6 itself. I guess that Stefan took the risk and enabled the KDEPIM46 repo, which is on a weekly basis updated from KDEPIM and KDEPIM-runtime git (master branch). It is an updated Akonadi-runtime and builds against KDEPIMLIBS 4.6.0.
And I now see that the build file for 4.6 actually does erroneously build the Akonadi version by default, which is not what I thought it did. This is now fixed in the KDE repository, but it will take time to reach the openSUSE packages.
As indicated the standard KDE 4.6.0 packages do not include the KDEPIM 4.6 pack, so I will update now the special repository so that the users there would have this update. Regards Raymond openSUSE KDE Community team member. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Dnia niedziela, 13 lutego 2011 o 11:02:37 Raymond Wooninck napisał(a):
On Saturday 12 February 2011 23:44:04 David Jarvie wrote:
Sorry, I didn't read your original post properly. I see that it does state that you're using kdepim 4.6, so it looks like it probably IS building kalarm to use Akonadi. Which is a very wrong thing to do Hi David,
The standard for the upcoming openSUSE 11.4 is to take the non-akonadi based KDEPIM (which I believe is 4.4.10). However in order to facilitate testing of the newer KDEPIM 4.6 version for those that are willing to take the risk, we provide a separate KDEPIM46 repo which is build against 4.6 itself.
openSuSE 11.3 came with Akonadi-based PIM, and it failed to properly import/configure KAddressBook data. The maintainers of PIM said that such portability is not a priority. Are we now on the road back? I suspect it is not going to be any less bumpy. This is not to say I like the Akonadi-based solution. The idea makes sense, but the present state is not reliable enough. Worried, Chris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 13 February 2011 12:39:50 Křištof Želechovski wrote:
openSuSE 11.3 came with Akonadi-based PIM, and it failed to properly import/configure KAddressBook data. The maintainers of PIM said that such portability is not a priority. Are we now on the road back? I suspect it is not going to be any less bumpy
This is not to say I like the Akonadi-based solution. The idea makes sense, but the present state is not reliable enough.
I am very sorry, but I do not get your point here ? KDE 4.6 has been released without KDEPIM 4.6, instead of that the clear recommendation was to use the older KDEPIM version. This is what is represented in the current setup of the openSUSE repositories. This is to create the least disturbance for the user of KDE. Why is this translated into "Are we now on the road back?" ? openSUSE 11.3 did not came with a full Akonadi-based PIM. Yes, certain functionality was already ported to Akonadi, but not the full PIM suite. As far as I know the target was to have a full Akonadi based PIM with KDE 4.6. However the KDEPIM team took the decision not to release it together with the release KDE 4.6. And this status is represented in the official openSUSE Repositories.
Worried, Chris
Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Raymond Wooninck wrote:
On Saturday 12 February 2011 23:44:04 David Jarvie wrote:
Sorry, I didn't read your original post properly. I see that it does state that you're using kdepim 4.6, so it looks like it probably IS building kalarm to use Akonadi. Which is a very wrong thing to do Hi David,
The standard for the upcoming openSUSE 11.4 is to take the non-akonadi based KDEPIM (which I believe is 4.4.10). However in order to facilitate testing of the newer KDEPIM 4.6 version for those that are willing to take the risk, we provide a separate KDEPIM46 repo which is build against 4.6 itself.
I guess that Stefan took the risk and enabled the KDEPIM46 repo, which is on a weekly basis updated from KDEPIM and KDEPIM-runtime git (master branch). It is an updated Akonadi-runtime and builds against KDEPIMLIBS 4.6.0.
And I now see that the build file for 4.6 actually does erroneously build the Akonadi version by default, which is not what I thought it did. This is now fixed in the KDE repository, but it will take time to reach the openSUSE packages.
As indicated the standard KDE 4.6.0 packages do not include the KDEPIM 4.6 pack, so I will update now the special repository so that the users there would have this update.
Regards Raymond openSUSE KDE Community team member.
So, it seems that I have an Akonadi-based version. kalarm --version gave me Qt: 4.7.1 KDE: 4.6.00 (4.6.0) KAlarm: 2.6.2 I did not really get what Raymond said. Will you keep the akonadi-version of kalarm in this repo? Then it would be nice to have at least an updated version of qt, as well. Otherwise it seems to be of no use, actually. Or will you include the "old" version of kalarm in the future? I just updated to a new version, which was provided in the repo. It is version 4.6.40.git.1297553888-3.1 built on 13 Feb 2011 14:51:58 CET. Unfortunatelly, there is no change in the behaviour of kalarm :-( Bug rerport? Anyway, thanks for all your replies! Regards, Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, February 14, 2011 9:50 am, Stefan Vater wrote:
Raymond Wooninck wrote:
On Saturday 12 February 2011 23:44:04 David Jarvie wrote:
Sorry, I didn't read your original post properly. I see that it does state that you're using kdepim 4.6, so it looks like it probably IS building kalarm to use Akonadi. Which is a very wrong thing to do Hi David,
The standard for the upcoming openSUSE 11.4 is to take the non-akonadi based KDEPIM (which I believe is 4.4.10). However in order to facilitate testing of the newer KDEPIM 4.6 version for those that are willing to take the risk, we provide a separate KDEPIM46 repo which is build against 4.6 itself.
I guess that Stefan took the risk and enabled the KDEPIM46 repo, which is on a weekly basis updated from KDEPIM and KDEPIM-runtime git (master branch). It is an updated Akonadi-runtime and builds against KDEPIMLIBS 4.6.0.
And I now see that the build file for 4.6 actually does erroneously build the Akonadi version by default, which is not what I thought it did. This is now fixed in the KDE repository, but it will take time to reach the openSUSE packages.
As indicated the standard KDE 4.6.0 packages do not include the KDEPIM 4.6 pack, so I will update now the special repository so that the users there would have this update.
Regards Raymond openSUSE KDE Community team member.
So, it seems that I have an Akonadi-based version. kalarm --version gave me
Qt: 4.7.1 KDE: 4.6.00 (4.6.0) KAlarm: 2.6.2
I did not really get what Raymond said. Will you keep the akonadi-version of kalarm in this repo? Then it would be nice to have at least an updated version of qt, as well. Otherwise it seems to be of no use, actually. Or will you include the "old" version of kalarm in the future?
When kdepim 4.6 is finally released, korganizer, kmail etc. will be migrated to Akonadi, but kalarm's Akonadi migration won't be ready until kdepim 4.7, and the Akonadi option will be removed from kalarm 4.6. Anybody who wants the Akonadi version of kalarm for testing is welcome to build it themselves from source from the kdepim master branch. -- David Jarvie. KDE developer. KAlarm author - http://www.astrojar.org.uk/kalarm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
David Jarvie wrote:
On Mon, February 14, 2011 9:50 am, Stefan Vater wrote:
Raymond Wooninck wrote:
On Saturday 12 February 2011 23:44:04 David Jarvie wrote:
Sorry, I didn't read your original post properly. I see that it does state that you're using kdepim 4.6, so it looks like it probably IS building kalarm to use Akonadi. Which is a very wrong thing to do Hi David,
The standard for the upcoming openSUSE 11.4 is to take the non-akonadi based KDEPIM (which I believe is 4.4.10). However in order to facilitate testing of the newer KDEPIM 4.6 version for those that are willing to take the risk, we provide a separate KDEPIM46 repo which is build against 4.6 itself.
I guess that Stefan took the risk and enabled the KDEPIM46 repo, which is on a weekly basis updated from KDEPIM and KDEPIM-runtime git (master branch). It is an updated Akonadi-runtime and builds against KDEPIMLIBS 4.6.0.
And I now see that the build file for 4.6 actually does erroneously build the Akonadi version by default, which is not what I thought it did. This is now fixed in the KDE repository, but it will take time to reach the openSUSE packages.
As indicated the standard KDE 4.6.0 packages do not include the KDEPIM 4.6 pack, so I will update now the special repository so that the users there would have this update.
Regards Raymond openSUSE KDE Community team member.
So, it seems that I have an Akonadi-based version. kalarm --version gave me
Qt: 4.7.1 KDE: 4.6.00 (4.6.0) KAlarm: 2.6.2
I did not really get what Raymond said. Will you keep the akonadi-version of kalarm in this repo? Then it would be nice to have at least an updated version of qt, as well. Otherwise it seems to be of no use, actually. Or will you include the "old" version of kalarm in the future?
When kdepim 4.6 is finally released, korganizer, kmail etc. will be migrated to Akonadi, but kalarm's Akonadi migration won't be ready until kdepim 4.7, and the Akonadi option will be removed from kalarm 4.6. Anybody who wants the Akonadi version of kalarm for testing is welcome to build it themselves from source from the kdepim master branch.
Hi, after some more strange crashes of kalarm, which I cannot reproduce, it works fine now. Thank you all for your help! Regards, Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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