Thx..for your reply... i prefer downloading the rpms because i can distibute them easier to friens with slow internet access.. Are u sure what u suggest me will work? Thx a lot Have a nice day --- "Henk A.M. Weebers" wrote:

Op maandag 27 september 2004 18:44, schreef Alaios:

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Hi i have suse 9.1 . I want to upgrade kde 3.2 to kde 3.3 I have started downloading the packages from

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1

...

How i can upgrade my kde? Thx a lot

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cd to the download directory cd base rpm -Uhv *rpm cd ../applications rpm -Uhv *rpm cd ..internationalization rpm -Uhv *rpm

An other (better) way is to download yast-source too. Add the yast-source to the yast instalation source. Updat fules whith yast.

succes Henk

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Thx for your reply... Now .... it's time to decide what folders i must download from here ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1/ I think that base and applications is fins isn't it? Also it is necessary to download all the applications' rpms?? When i am going to use the procedure u described earlier all the rpm must be in the same directory right?? Thx a lot have a nice day --- "Matt T." wrote:

On Tuesday 28 September 2004 01:08, Alaios wrote:

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Thx..for your reply... i prefer downloading the rpms because i can distibute them easier to friens with slow internet access..

Are u sure what u suggest me will work? Thx a lot Have a nice day

--- "Henk A.M. Weebers" wrote:

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Op maandag 27 september 2004 18:44, schreef Alaios:

...

Hi i have suse 9.1 . I want to upgrade kde 3.2 to kde 3.3 I have started downloading the packages from

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1

...

...

...

How i can upgrade my kde? Thx a lot

cd to the download directory cd base rpm -Uhv *rpm cd ../applications rpm -Uhv *rpm cd ..internationalization rpm -Uhv *rpm

hmmm, let me add a little more to this, which IMHO avoids a lot of headache:

1) first I do copy (or link) all rpms in the same directory. Only if they are in the same directory I can test them all with "rpm -Uvh --test" for dependencies before I actually install them. (Otherwise you can test only the rpms in base, because the other ones in the other directories do need the ones in base, and will always complain a lot.)

2) open a konsole and cd to this directory, which contains all rpms (or links to them).

3) rpm -Uvh --test *.rpm

This will give you most probably some errors, missing dependencies, etc. (you can do this a normal user, you do not have to be root for this test)

3a) if there are missing dependencies, then install them, then go back to 3) and test again

3b) if you cannot find the rpm for a missing dependencies, and it affects an rpm you do not really need, then move this rpm out into a different directory. (example: digikam might need something, or amarok-gstreamer might need gstreamer, and you do not find the missing rpm, but you can run amarok using arts, or you do not have a digital camera, so you do not really need amarok-gstreamer or digikam, then just move them into a "not installed" directory.)

then go back to 3) and test again

4) Once rpm -Uvh --test *.rpm runs through without complaining, then you are ready to do the real install.

5) Log out of your kde session.

6) Switch to a console, by using CTRL-ALT-F2 (or F3 etc.)

7) Log in as root.

8) do an "init 3" (this will unload the x server and with it whatever else is still loaded from kde / qt )

9) cd to the directory with all the rpms

10) now do a "rpm -Uvh *.rpm"

11) watch rpm at work for a while

12) Once rpm is finished, do an init 5

13) Log in again, and enjoy kde 3.3

You can also do a search on the suse lists, there are plenty of discussions about the best way to upgrade kde, with a lot of good instructions, which are probably better than this one. There are also some great tools, which can make your life easier, such as apt or red carpet.

However if you have downloaded the rpms already anyway, I think the way I propose here should be OK - It always worked for me :-)

HTH, Matt

...

...

An other (better) way is to download yast-source too. Add the yast-source to the yast instalation source. Updat fules whith yast.

????

...

...

succes Henk

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Op donderdag 7 oktober 2004 12:32, schreef Ciaran Mulloy:

I understand that using ftp from with YAST is the best approach for updating from KDE 3.2 to KDE 3.3. Should I have to exit from KDE to run YAST, e.g. from an init 3 login (alternatively by running it from fvwm desktop) or can I run it from within KDE?

Ciaran

There are two ways 1. yast in text mode. Don't worry about the init level. 2. in X-mode. In both cases Yast2 functions the same way. Henk

On Tuesday 28 September 2004 01:49, Alaios wrote:

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Thx for your reply... Now .... it's time to decide what folders i must download from here ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1/

I think that base and applications is fins isn't it? Also it is necessary to download all the applications' rpms?? When i am going to use the procedure u described earlier all the rpm must be in the same directory right??

Thx a lot have a nice day

--- "Matt T." wrote:

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On Tuesday 28 September 2004 01:08, Alaios wrote:

...

Thx..for your reply... i prefer downloading the

rpms

...

because i can distibute them easier to friens with slow internet access..

Are u sure what u suggest me will work? Thx a lot Have a nice day

--- "Henk A.M. Weebers"

wrote:

...

...

Op maandag 27 september 2004 18:44, schreef

Alaios:

...

...

...

Hi i have suse 9.1 . I want to upgrade kde 3.2 to kde 3.3 I have started downloading the packages from

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1

...

...

...

...

How i can upgrade my kde? Thx a lot

cd to the download directory cd base rpm -Uhv *rpm cd ../applications rpm -Uhv *rpm cd ..internationalization rpm -Uhv *rpm

hmmm, let me add a little more to this, which IMHO avoids a lot of headache:

1) first I do copy (or link) all rpms in the same directory. Only if they are in the same directory I can test them all with "rpm -Uvh --test" for dependencies before I actually install them. (Otherwise you can test only the rpms in base, because the other ones in the other directories do need the ones in base, and will always complain a lot.)

2) open a konsole and cd to this directory, which contains all rpms (or links to them).

3) rpm -Uvh --test *.rpm

This will give you most probably some errors, missing dependencies, etc. (you can do this a normal user, you do not have to be root for this test)

3a) if there are missing dependencies, then install them, then go back to 3) and test again

3b) if you cannot find the rpm for a missing dependencies, and it affects an rpm you do not really need, then move this rpm out into a different directory. (example: digikam might need something, or amarok-gstreamer might need gstreamer, and you do not find the missing rpm, but you can run amarok using arts, or you do not have a digital camera, so you do not really need amarok-gstreamer or digikam, then just move them into a "not installed" directory.)

then go back to 3) and test again

4) Once rpm -Uvh --test *.rpm runs through without complaining, then you are ready to do the real install.

5) Log out of your kde session.

6) Switch to a console, by using CTRL-ALT-F2 (or F3 etc.)

7) Log in as root.

8) do an "init 3" (this will unload the x server and with it whatever else is still loaded from kde / qt )

9) cd to the directory with all the rpms

10) now do a "rpm -Uvh *.rpm"

11) watch rpm at work for a while

12) Once rpm is finished, do an init 5

13) Log in again, and enjoy kde 3.3

You can also do a search on the suse lists, there are plenty of discussions about the best way to upgrade kde, with a lot of good instructions, which are probably better than this one. There are also some great tools, which can make your life easier, such as apt or red carpet.

However if you have downloaded the rpms already anyway, I think the way I propose here should be OK - It always worked for me

:-)

HTH, Matt

...

...

An other (better) way is to download yast-source too. Add the yast-source to the yast instalation

source.

...

...

Updat fules whith yast.

????

...

...

succes Henk

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Am Montag, 27. September 2004 20:08 schrieb Alaios:

Thx..for your reply... i prefer downloading the rpms because i can distibute them easier to friens with slow internet access..

rpm -Uvh is a bad idea. that would install ANY package that matches the *.rpm pattern... if you want to do it that way, use rpm -Fvh instead. then, check dependencies by hand. besides, if you want to distribute the stuff, you better download anything. easiest: set up a mirror with rsync, then add the "yast-source" directory as a install source in yast and select "system upgrade". bye, MH