[opensuse-kde] cannot end plasma5 session without first closing Konsole5
This is not necessary in Fedora's 5.11.0 & newer. Why is it so in openSUSE? Bug? Configuration option? Other? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 20. Juli 2015, 05:47:07 schrieb Felix Miata:
This is not necessary in Fedora's 5.11.0 & newer. Why is it so in openSUSE?
It's not necessary here on my openSUSE system either. What happens when you try to logout? Maybe you have more than one tab open, or have programs running inside Konsole? That would make it ask for confirmation on exit... Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Wolfgang Bauer composed on 2015-07-20 16:46 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata composed:
This is not necessary in Fedora's 5.11.0 & newer. Why is it so in openSUSE?
It's not necessary here on my openSUSE system either.
What happens when you try to logout?
It complains mc is running.
Maybe you have more than one tab open, or have programs running inside Konsole? That would make it ask for confirmation on exit...
Is there a setting to avoid that? In KDE3, there was no such complaint, and mc would automatically be reopened if it had been running at last logout, which, apparently like v5 as well, KDE4 wouldn't do. The problem here looks like might be mere labeling: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/logoutConfirmP5120.png I'm not interested in "closing" any tab or window, only logging out, and finding Konsole open in whatever state it was in when logging out when the next session is opened, like in KDE3 (automatically, one of the reasons people depend on puters). -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 20. Juli 2015, 13:30:00 schrieb Felix Miata:
What happens when you try to logout?
It complains mc is running.
Well, it would be good if you had mentioned this right from the start. You just mentioned that you can't logout without closing Konsole manually. The logout should continue if you select "Close Window" though...
Maybe you have more than one tab open, or have programs running inside Konsole? That would make it ask for confirmation on exit...
Is there a setting to avoid that? In KDE3, there was no such complaint, and mc would automatically be reopened if it had been running at last logout, which, apparently like v5 as well, KDE4 wouldn't do.
Right, this warning has been added in KDE4 on user request: I don't know of a setting to disable that, and nobody seems to have requested a way to disabling that either (I don't find a bug report at least). So, if you want that, file a bug report yourself at http://bugs.kde.org/ I'd say.
I'm not interested in "closing" any tab or window, only logging out, and finding Konsole open in whatever state it was in when logging out when the next session is opened, like in KDE3 (automatically, one of the reasons people depend on puters).
Well, logging out means quitting Konsole, so it warns about programs still running. As mentioned, I don't think disabling that warning is possible (since years). You can run mc in your Konsole automatically by editing the default session to run mc instead of sh (or create a new session that does that and set it as default) though. But it will still warn you on exit, if you don't quit mc first. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag, 21. Juli 2015, 16:29:48 schrieb Wolfgang Bauer:
Right, this warning has been added in KDE4 on user request:
Sorry, I hit the send button too quick and forgot to paste the URL. Here it is: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134581 Oh, and you can of course also continue to use KDE3's Konsole, if you like that more. It (and KDE3) is still included in the distribution, even in Tumbleweed. I think it's in the package kdebase3-apps. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag, 21. Juli 2015, 16:29:48 schrieb Wolfgang Bauer:
As mentioned, I don't think disabling that warning is possible (since years)
Well, actually it is possible: There is a checkbox labelled "Do not ask again" in that warning dialog. Tick that and you won't be asked again. It seems to be ticked in your screenshot anyway, so just click on "Close Window" additionally and it will remember that selection. (and I just tried it here, it works) Clicking on "Cancel" (what you probably did) will have no effect though. I have no idea why I myself didn't think of that earlier, probably it's too obvious? ;-) Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Wolfgang Bauer composed on 2015-08-03 18:30 (UTC+0200):
Wolfgang Bauer composed:
As mentioned, I don't think disabling that warning is possible (since years)
Well, actually it is possible: There is a checkbox labelled "Do not ask again" in that warning dialog. Tick that and you won't be asked again.
It seems to be ticked in your screenshot anyway, so just click on "Close Window" additionally and it will remember that selection. (and I just tried it here, it works) Clicking on "Cancel" (what you probably did) will have no effect though.
I have no idea why I myself didn't think of that earlier, probably it's too obvious? ;-)
Back to $SUBJECT, I do not want to "close" anything other than the Plasma session. As KDE3 did automatically, I want to exit the session, without closing any apps, and on starting next session, find those same apps automatically opened, without having had to specify some particular combination of open apps as some particular startup activity or any other type of non-automatic pre-configuration. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 3. August 2015, 13:12:21 schrieb Felix Miata:
Back to $SUBJECT, I do not want to "close" anything other than the Plasma session. It doesn't matter what *you* want. If you log out, all applications have to be closed.
What else would you expect? Keep them running when the computer is turned off or something? That's done on suspend or hibernate, not logout. And konsole asks for confirmation when a program is running. Enable "Do not ask" to prevent that, and you can logout without interaction.
As KDE3 did automatically, I want to exit the session, without closing any apps, and on starting next session, find those same apps automatically opened, without having had to specify some particular combination of open apps as some particular startup activity or any other type of non-automatic pre-configuration.
That's done by session management, the applications that were closed automatically on logout are restarted on login. And that's supported by KDE4 and Plasma5 too, exactly the same as in KDE3. But it's the application's job to save their state when they are closed automatically on logout, so that it can be restored on login. Btw, I just tried with KDE3 and its Konsole, and you are wrong: it doesn't remember arbitrarily running programs either. You probably started mc via konsole's menu entry (Session->"New Midnight Commander") and that's why it got restarted on login, The same is possible with Konsole4/5 via a "session" as already mentioned. So nothing actually has changed regarding this between KDE3 and subsequent versions, only the menus have been rearranged in Konsole4 and there's no "Midnight Commander" session by default. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
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