Real KDE Support

MET

22 Oct 2002 22 Oct '02

19:25

I'm a RedHat user getting tired of their 'support' for KDE. So I'm looking for another distro that has quality and truly supports KDE. Everyone's telling me to use Suse. So here I am. So what's the real deal? Does YaST offer support for the updates to KDE allowing me to easily update or do I have to manually update like in RedHat (rpm -Uvh --nodeps *.rpm)? Advice, suggestions, comments please. ~ Matthew

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Anders Johansson

22 Oct 22 Oct

19:30

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On Tuesday 22 October 2002 21.25, MET wrote:

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I'm a RedHat user getting tired of their 'support' for KDE. So I'm looking for another distro that has quality and truly supports KDE. Everyone's telling me to use Suse. So here I am. So what's the real deal? Does YaST offer support for the updates to KDE allowing me to easily update

Some updates are supported through YaST, but far from all. I think the rule is security fixes and critical bugfixes, but not feature additions.

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or do I have to manually update like in RedHat (rpm -Uvh --nodeps *.rpm)?

If you could do that in Red Hat there'd be few complaints wouldn't there. The point is that Red Hat rarely provide rpms of any description. No matter how you choose to install. With Red Hat you're usually forced to install from source. In the "supplementary" directory on ftp.suse.com and its mirrors (use mirrors, unless you're a *very* patient person) there are rpms for just about everything. They're not "officially supported", but they're there. How you install them is up to you. rpm -Uvh works, so does kpackage. Anders

Carl

20:26

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 22 October 2002 14:25, MET wrote:

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I'm a RedHat user getting tired of their 'support' for KDE. So I'm looking for another distro that has quality and truly supports KDE. Everyone's telling me to use Suse. So here I am. So what's the real deal? Does YaST offer support for the updates to KDE allowing me to easily update or do I have to manually update like in RedHat (rpm -Uvh --nodeps *.rpm)?

Advice, suggestions, comments please.

~ Matthew

Given KDE, it's probably best to go to Mandrake or Suse. I've used all 3 distros. Left RedHat for being 'half-baked'. What a mess. 'Nuff said. Left Mandrake because they're 'forked'. Not a bad distro, but some 3rd party software is not compatible. Experienced rampant instability for the past 3 months with Suse, but now running 8 with K3.0.3, and things are stabilizing now. My fonts are messed up, and I can print nor fax, but otherwise Suse rocks. Whatever you do, don't use Yast2 to switch from Cups to LPR and back again. It's really busted me now. Whereas I've now found that the fix for the original problem is fairly easy, it's too late since I performed the above. - -- If only God would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit in my name at a Swiss bank. -- Woody Allen, "Without Feathers" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj21tHUACgkQnQ18+PFcZJvIzgCeK+2bsxti5TKXtL8sp2ZmJbo7 ZKsAn26ZrUdVSxbcfwV14m2dtzK0dOQk =rLig -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Matthias Hentges

23:40

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Am Die, 2002-10-22 um 21.25 schrieb MET:

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I'm a RedHat user getting tired of their 'support' for KDE. So I'm looking for another distro that has quality and truly supports KDE. Everyone's telling me to use Suse. So here I am. So what's the real deal? Does YaST offer support for the updates to KDE allowing me to easily update or do I have to manually update like in RedHat (rpm -Uvh --nodeps *.rpm)?

Advice, suggestions, comments please.

You may want to have a look at debian. KDE can be kept "bleeding edge" as simple as "apt-get update;apt-get upgrade" -- Matthias Hentges [www.hentges.net] -> PGP + HTML are welcome ICQ: 97 26 97 4 -> No files, no URLs "Thats what sucks about windows, you can't say that you rooted some one. Saying "I ADMINISTRATORED YOU!" just doesn't sound cool."

Olle Viksten

23 Oct 23 Oct

12:33

New subject: [suse-kde] Real KDE Support

onsdagen den 23 oktober 2002 01.40 skrev Matthias Hentges:

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Am Die, 2002-10-22 um 21.25 schrieb MET:

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I'm a RedHat user getting tired of their 'support' for KDE. So I'm looking for another distro that has quality and truly supports KDE. Everyone's telling me to use Suse. So here I am. So what's the real deal? Does YaST offer support for the updates to KDE allowing me to easily update or do I have to manually update like in RedHat (rpm -Uvh --nodeps *.rpm)?

Advice, suggestions, comments please.

You may want to have a look at debian. KDE can be kept "bleeding edge" as simple as "apt-get update;apt-get upgrade"

You can also use apt for SuSE. Have look at http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/ . It will upgrade almost all rpm packages you have installed. Olle -- MicroSoft Network may not carry this message without license to do so. License to carry this message requires a fee of $1000, payable within 30 days to Olle Viksten. Appearance of this message on MicroSoft Network constitutes an agreement to terms.

Marcel Broekman

21:33

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Op woensdag 23 oktober 2002 14:33, schreef Olle Viksten:

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onsdagen den 23 oktober 2002 01.40 skrev Matthias Hentges:

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Am Die, 2002-10-22 um 21.25 schrieb MET:

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I'm a RedHat user getting tired of their 'support' for KDE. So I'm looking for another distro that has quality and truly supports KDE. Everyone's telling me to use Suse. So here I am. So what's the real deal? Does YaST offer support for the updates to KDE allowing me to easily update or do I have to manually update like in RedHat (rpm -Uvh --nodeps *.rpm)?

Advice, suggestions, comments please.

You may want to have a look at debian. KDE can be kept "bleeding edge" as simple as "apt-get update;apt-get upgrade"

You can also use apt for SuSE. Have look at http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/ . It will upgrade almost all rpm packages you have installed.

Olle

Yeah, and upgrade SuSE 8.0 to KDE 3.04 IS possible with apt-get :-) Marcel

Salman Khilji

22 Oct 22 Oct

23:59

New subject: [suse-kde] Real KDE Support

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Advice, suggestions, comments please.

Update to KDE 3.0.1 AND 3.0.2 was provided thru YAST. Other than that, you have to download all the RPMS on one directory and do an rpm -Uvh * to update all of KDE packages.

Graham Murray

21:11

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Salman Khilji writes:

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Update to KDE 3.0.1 AND 3.0.2 was provided thru YAST. Other than that, you have to download all the RPMS on one directory and do an

The upgrade to 3.04 is also provided via YAST.

Mathias Homann

21:19

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Am Dienstag, 22. Oktober 2002 23:11 schrieb Graham Murray:

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Salman Khilji writes:

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Update to KDE 3.0.1 AND 3.0.2 was provided thru YAST. Other than that, you have to download all the RPMS on one directory and do an

The upgrade to 3.04 is also provided via YAST.

is not (yet). or at least there is no patch description file for 8.0 yet.... bye, MH

Anders Johansson

21:21

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On Tuesday 22 October 2002 23.19, Mathias Homann wrote:

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Am Dienstag, 22. Oktober 2002 23:11 schrieb Graham Murray:

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Salman Khilji writes:

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Update to KDE 3.0.1 AND 3.0.2 was provided thru YAST. Other than that, you have to download all the RPMS on one directory and do an

The upgrade to 3.04 is also provided via YAST.

is not (yet).

or at least there is no patch description file for 8.0 yet....

No, it's only provided for 8.1 Anders

Mathias Homann

21:30

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Am Dienstag, 22. Oktober 2002 23:21 schrieb Anders Johansson:

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On Tuesday 22 October 2002 23.19, Mathias Homann wrote:

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Am Dienstag, 22. Oktober 2002 23:11 schrieb Graham Murray:

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Salman Khilji writes:

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Update to KDE 3.0.1 AND 3.0.2 was provided thru YAST. Other than that, you have to download all the RPMS on one directory and do an

The upgrade to 3.04 is also provided via YAST.

is not (yet).

or at least there is no patch description file for 8.0 yet....

No, it's only provided for 8.1

that sucks. what especially pisses me off is the fact that the actual RPM packages ARE there. in dir kde9 in the update tree for 8.0... just no patch file. bye, [MH]

Salman Khilji

23 Oct 23 Oct

03:08

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The upgrade to 3.04 is also provided via YAST.

Hmmm... I updated my system yesterday. I didn't see it. Let me try again.

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