[opensuse-kde] Kmail crashing
Hello SuSE people, About the 1st of September I upgraded my KDE to 3.5.7 on 10.2 After it installed Kmail would crash with a sigserv when I tried to open it. Had to back out to my old KDE on the disk. Wrote to the list. Kevin Krammer (hope I got the name right) from KDE replied there was a problem with Kontact and the kdepim3 rpm effecting Kmail. It was being fixed as he wrote. Waited a few days and reinstalled the newer KDE upgrades with SMART. Same thing happened again. Kmail and Kontact would crash on opening them. Only this time I checked a little further and the two other users did not have the problem. But, I did have to back out again to be able to use Kmail myself. While in the upgraded state, I compared my .kde files with the other users. There was one significant difference. They each had a Mail directory in their individual Home partitions which contained their mail directories. While mine did not. Mine was in .kde/share/apps/kmail. Now, I have a great deal of mail about half in directories and about half in mailbox format. Most of the mailbox stuff is pretty old but valuable to me. Is it possible that this difference I pointed out is the problem? Also, is it possible to convert those mailboxes to directories without doing it one by one? Sure would like to upgrade. Any help or ideas will sure be appreciated. Bob S --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 20 September 2007 19:10, Bob S wrote:
While in the upgraded state, I compared my .kde files with the other users. There was one significant difference. They each had a Mail directory in their individual Home partitions which contained their mail directories. While mine did not. Mine was in .kde/share/apps/kmail. Now, I have a great deal of mail about half in directories and about half in mailbox format. Most of the mailbox stuff is pretty old but valuable to me.
The normal place to find kmail files is in /home/user/.kde/share/apps/kmail. It's been in the same place for a long time, at least in suse kde installs. You can, however, import mail from a directory so that your current location shows current and old email. -- Bob Smits bob@rsmits.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On 21 September 2007 03:10, Bob S wrote:
Hello SuSE people,
About the 1st of September I upgraded my KDE to 3.5.7 on 10.2
After it installed Kmail would crash with a sigserv when I tried to open it. Had to back out to my old KDE on the disk. Wrote to the list. Kevin Krammer (hope I got the name right) from KDE replied there was a problem with Kontact and the kdepim3 rpm effecting Kmail. It was being fixed as he wrote.
Waited a few days and reinstalled the newer KDE upgrades with SMART. Same thing happened again. Kmail and Kontact would crash on opening them. Only this time I checked a little further and the two other users did not have the problem. But, I did have to back out again to be able to use Kmail myself.
While in the upgraded state, I compared my .kde files with the other users. There was one significant difference. They each had a Mail directory in their individual Home partitions which contained their mail directories. While mine did not. Mine was in .kde/share/apps/kmail. Now, I have a great deal of mail about half in directories and about half in mailbox format. Most of the mailbox stuff is pretty old but valuable to me.
Is it possible that this difference I pointed out is the problem? Also, is it possible to convert those mailboxes to directories without doing it one by one?
Sure would like to upgrade. Any help or ideas will sure be appreciated.
Bob S --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Hi Bob, Did you solve the problem? -- Regards, Lívio Cipriano --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 22 September 2007 08:12, Lívio Cipriano wrote:
On 21 September 2007 03:10, Bob S wrote:
Hello SuSE people,
About the 1st of September I upgraded my KDE to 3.5.7 on 10.2
After it installed Kmail would crash with a sigserv when I tried to open it. Had to back out to my old KDE on the disk. Wrote to the list. Kevin Krammer (hope I got the name right) from KDE replied there was a problem with Kontact and the kdepim3 rpm effecting Kmail. It was being fixed as he wrote.
Waited a few days and reinstalled the newer KDE upgrades with SMART. Same thing happened again. Kmail and Kontact would crash on opening them. Only this time I checked a little further and the two other users did not have the problem. But, I did have to back out again to be able to use Kmail myself.
While in the upgraded state, I compared my .kde files with the other users. There was one significant difference. They each had a Mail directory in their individual Home partitions which contained their mail directories. While mine did not. Mine was in .kde/share/apps/kmail. Now, I have a great deal of mail about half in directories and about half in mailbox format. Most of the mailbox stuff is pretty old but valuable to me.
Is it possible that this difference I pointed out is the problem? Also, is it possible to convert those mailboxes to directories without doing it one by one?
Sure would like to upgrade. Any help or ideas will sure be appreciated.
Bob S --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Hi Bob,
Did you solve the problem?
Hi Livio, No,unfortunately. Hope you or somebody have some ideas. Bob S. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 23 September 2007 07:28:18 Bob S wrote:
On Saturday 22 September 2007 08:12, Lívio Cipriano wrote:
On 21 September 2007 03:10, Bob S wrote:
Hello SuSE people,
About the 1st of September I upgraded my KDE to 3.5.7 on 10.2
After it installed Kmail would crash with a sigserv when I tried to open it. Had to back out to my old KDE on the disk. Wrote to the list. Kevin Krammer (hope I got the name right) from KDE replied there was a problem with Kontact and the kdepim3 rpm effecting Kmail. It was being fixed as he wrote.
Waited a few days and reinstalled the newer KDE upgrades with SMART. Same thing happened again. Kmail and Kontact would crash on opening them. Only this time I checked a little further and the two other users did not have the problem. But, I did have to back out again to be able to use Kmail myself.
While in the upgraded state, I compared my .kde files with the other users. There was one significant difference. They each had a Mail directory in their individual Home partitions which contained their mail directories. While mine did not. Mine was in .kde/share/apps/kmail. Now, I have a great deal of mail about half in directories and about half in mailbox format. Most of the mailbox stuff is pretty old but valuable to me.
Is it possible that this difference I pointed out is the problem? Also, is it possible to convert those mailboxes to directories without doing it one by one?
Sure would like to upgrade. Any help or ideas will sure be appreciated.
Bob S --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Hi Bob,
Did you solve the problem?
Hi Livio,
No,unfortunately. Hope you or somebody have some ideas.
Bob S.
Hello Livio, Bob. I'm a long time user of Kmail too and since I'm one of those kind of guys who like to keep mail (currently I have approx. 1,000,000 ~ 13GB space), I have been always taken the mail upgrade process top priority issue. About the mailbox mails you have, Kmail can import them OK into maildir. Use the Import menu, and then select the mbox (Unix, Evolution) option. It's near the bottom of the selection. HTH, -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | Linux tutorial http://linux2.arinet.org 10:21:36 up 6 min, 2.6.20-16-generic GNU/Linux Let's use OpenOffice. http://www.openoffice.org
Hi all, I also like to keep all my records, mail included, and from times to times I also have some annoyances with kmail, but I can share by receipts : 1. Backup regularly the Kmail config file, ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc; 2. The kmailrc allows you to change the directory where the mail files are, with "folders=/home/lcipriano/Documents/pim/mail". As you can see, I choose a different dir, so that is not a problem; 3. Exec the touch command in all files that are under the folders dir, has specified above, maildir, mailboxs, indexs, etc, and start Kmail or Kontact; 4. If this fail, delete ALL the index files and start Kmail, so that it can rebuild the indexes. Hope that helped -- Regards, Lívio Cipriano --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Hi Fajar, sorry for hijacking thread ..
who like to keep mail (currently I have approx. 1,000,000 ~ 13GB space), I
I cant resist to ask you how kmail work for you under such load?. I have also many mails cca 300k. But when i do not delete mails regularly kmail became absolutely unusable. I use "disconetcted imap" For example i had 100k mails in my trash and i was not able to delete them from kmail (crashes, hangs ..) So how you solving storing 1M mails??? What is your configuration. -- Pavel Nemec Software Engineer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SuSE CR, s.r.o. e-mail: pnemec@suse.cz Lihovarska 1060/12 tel:+420 284 028 981 190 00 Praha 9 fax:+420 296 542 374 Ceska republika http://www.suse.cz ---------------------------------------------------------------------
On Monday 24 September 2007 14:41:25 Pavel Nemec wrote:
Hi Fajar, sorry for hijacking thread ..
who like to keep mail (currently I have approx. 1,000,000 ~ 13GB space), I
I cant resist to ask you how kmail work for you under such load?. I have also many mails cca 300k. But when i do not delete mails regularly kmail became absolutely unusable. I use "disconetcted imap" For example i had 100k mails in my trash and i was not able to delete them from kmail (crashes, hangs ..)
So how you solving storing 1M mails??? What is your configuration.
Hi Pavel, I'm using POP3. So, all the mails are downloaded to my local harddrive. -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | Linux tutorial http://linux2.arinet.org 15:26:30 up 12 min, 2.6.20-16-generic GNU/Linux Let's use OpenOffice. http://www.openoffice.org
Bob, I've seen similar issues in the past when the indexes have become corrupted. This was much more prevalent in the older kmail releases. You can try the following: Shut down kmail or kontact. cd ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail (or to the top level mail directory if it's located else where) find . -name .\*.index\* -exec rm {} \; restart kmail or kontact. This will remove all of the index files and allow kmail to rebuild your indexes. Be sure to give kmail a chance to rebuild all of the indexes cleanly after starting the app. I have not seen this issues after getting 3.5.7 cleaned up one time. Regards, Terry On Saturday 22 September 2007 06:28:18 pm Bob S wrote:
On Saturday 22 September 2007 08:12, Lívio Cipriano wrote:
On 21 September 2007 03:10, Bob S wrote:
Hello SuSE people,
About the 1st of September I upgraded my KDE to 3.5.7 on 10.2
After it installed Kmail would crash with a sigserv when I tried to open it. Had to back out to my old KDE on the disk. Wrote to the list. Kevin Krammer (hope I got the name right) from KDE replied there was a problem with Kontact and the kdepim3 rpm effecting Kmail. It was being fixed as he wrote.
Waited a few days and reinstalled the newer KDE upgrades with SMART. Same thing happened again. Kmail and Kontact would crash on opening them. Only this time I checked a little further and the two other users did not have the problem. But, I did have to back out again to be able to use Kmail myself.
While in the upgraded state, I compared my .kde files with the other users. There was one significant difference. They each had a Mail directory in their individual Home partitions which contained their mail directories. While mine did not. Mine was in .kde/share/apps/kmail. Now, I have a great deal of mail about half in directories and about half in mailbox format. Most of the mailbox stuff is pretty old but valuable to me.
Is it possible that this difference I pointed out is the problem? Also, is it possible to convert those mailboxes to directories without doing it one by one?
Sure would like to upgrade. Any help or ideas will sure be appreciated.
Bob S --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Hi Bob,
Did you solve the problem?
Hi Livio,
No,unfortunately. Hope you or somebody have some ideas.
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On Friday, 21. September 2007, Bob S wrote:
Sure would like to upgrade. Any help or ideas will sure be appreciated.
can you please post a backtrace that you get? which version of kdepim3 do you have installed _exactly_? -- RPMLINT information under http://en.opensuse.org/Packaging/RpmLint --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 24 September 2007 07:04, Dirk Mueller wrote:
On Friday, 21. September 2007, Bob S wrote:
Sure would like to upgrade. Any help or ideas will sure be appreciated.
can you please post a backtrace that you get? which version of kdepim3 do you have installed _exactly_?
Hi Dirk, I'd have to upgrade KDE again. I didn't keep the backtrace and simply "backed out" to the last version to get Kontact & Kmail working again. I have just spent hours converting my many Mailbox directories to Mail directories. All of my Directories are the same now. I will attempt to upgrade KDE again tomorrow. Let's hope that will solve the problem. If it doesn't work again, I will post the backtrace.Stay tuned. I'll report either way. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On 25 September 2007 05:17, Bob S wrote:
I have just spent hours converting my many Mailbox directories to Mail directories
Hi Bob, Just for curiosity, did you tried to delete the index files? -- Regards, Lívio Cipriano --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 25 September 2007 04:33, Lívio Cipriano wrote:
On 25 September 2007 05:17, Bob S wrote:
I have just spent hours converting my many Mailbox directories to Mail directories
Hi Bob,
Just for curiosity, did you tried to delete the index files?
Hi Livio, No, not at first because there was too much of a mix between the "Mailbox" and the Mail Directories. I DID delete the index files though after I converted everything to Mail Directories. I'm downloading the newer KDE as I write. Wellll....same problem, after all that work....Don't understand. Just my Kmail. Two other users work OK. See my reply to Dirk above. Bob S --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On 26 September 2007 04:49, Bob S wrote:
Wellll....same problem, after all that work
Hi Bob, Try to import your mail into kmail, even if you have to create a dummy user. Maybe you have some "broken" messages, wich I doubt because you transform your mailboxs into maildirs. BTW, are you using a IMAP account? Try to start JUST kmail from the command line and see the messages that are outputted. -- Regards, Lívio Cipriano --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 02:45, Lívio Cipriano wrote:
On 26 September 2007 04:49, Bob S wrote:
Wellll....same problem, after all that work
Hi Bob,
Try to import your mail into kmail, even if you have to create a dummy user. Maybe you have some "broken" messages, wich I doubt because you transform your mailboxs into maildirs.
I think what I will do next is rename my mail directory, then upgrade kde again and see if Kmail sigservs again. Then I will know if it is the actual mails which may be causing this. BTW I know that kdepim3 is the rpm that updates Kmail and Kontact. So I went and tried to look in the kontact directory in .kde/share/apps but it is not there. Do you have it there? Also it seems that my Kontact is very old. version 1.2.3
BTW, are you using a IMAP account?
No, all POP accounts
Try to start JUST kmail from the command line and see the messages that are outputted.
Didn't think of that. Will try that after I upgrade again. Bob S. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Hi Bob On 27 September 2007 05:16, Bob S wrote:
BTW I know that kdepim3 is the rpm that updates Kmail and Kontact. So I went and tried to look in the kontact directory in .kde/share/apps but it is not there. Do you have it there? Also it seems that my Kontact is very old. version 1.2.3
I have ~/.kde/share/apps/kontact
Didn't think of that. Will try that after I upgrade again.
Do it ASAP. -- Regards, Lívio Cipriano --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 27 September 2007 14:44, Lívio Cipriano wrote:
Hi Bob
On 27 September 2007 05:16, Bob S wrote:
BTW I know that kdepim3 is the rpm that updates Kmail and Kontact. So I went and tried to look in the kontact directory in .kde/share/apps but it is not there. Do you have it there? Also it seems that my Kontact is very old. version 1.2.3
Hi Livio.
I have ~/.kde/share/apps/kontact
That is really strange. I don't. Either before or after the upgrade. Anyway, I think that the problem was related to 3 strange emails which I examined very carefully and found nothing that was obvious. I deleted them and now kmail doesn't crash. I got onto them because everytime I reverted to the older version they would show up as being unread. So, the Kmail crashing problem seems to be resolved, but a new problem has raised it's ugly head. Will start a new thread on that. Had to revert to the older kde version again to make my system usable. Thanks to you and everyone else who offered help and suggestions. Maybe you and others will have suggestions for the new problem to be posted tomorrow or the next day. Bob S. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 24 September 2007 07:04, Dirk Mueller wrote:
On Friday, 21. September 2007, Bob S wrote:
Sure would like to upgrade. Any help or ideas will sure be appreciated.
can you please post a backtrace that you get? which version of kdepim3 do you have installed _exactly_?
Hello Dirk, As seen by my reply to Livio my efforts have failed so far. The present Kdepim3 that works is 3.5.5-36. The new one that does not work I think is 3.5.7-91.1-x86_64. Following is backtrace from the sigserv when kmail crashes: System configuration startup check disabled. Using host libthread_db library "/lib64/libthread_db.so.1". [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread 47220791488864 (LWP 14101)] [KCrash handler] #5 0x00002af26798808b in KMFolderCachedImap::account () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkmailprivate.so #6 0x00002af267a69939 in KMailICalIfaceImpl::readConfig () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkmailprivate.so #7 0x00002af2679b28e4 in KMKernel::init () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkmailprivate.so #8 0x0000000000402944 in main () Hope you can help. Bob S --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 21 September 2007, Bob S wrote:
Hello SuSE people,
About the 1st of September I upgraded my KDE to 3.5.7 on 10.2
After it installed Kmail would crash with a sigserv when I tried to open it. Had to back out to my old KDE on the disk. Wrote to the list. Kevin Krammer (hope I got the name right) from KDE replied there was a problem with Kontact and the kdepim3 rpm effecting Kmail. It was being fixed as he wrote.
Waited a few days and reinstalled the newer KDE upgrades with SMART. Same thing happened again. Kmail and Kontact would crash on opening them. Only this time I checked a little further and the two other users did not have the problem. But, I did have to back out again to be able to use Kmail myself.
While in the upgraded state, I compared my .kde files with the other users. There was one significant difference. They each had a Mail directory in their individual Home partitions which contained their mail directories. While mine did not. Mine was in .kde/share/apps/kmail. Now, I have a great deal of mail about half in directories and about half in mailbox format. Most of the mailbox stuff is pretty old but valuable to me.
Is it possible that this difference I pointed out is the problem? Also, is it possible to convert those mailboxes to directories without doing it one by one?
Sure would like to upgrade. Any help or ideas will sure be appreciated.
I've had a similar problem with Kmail some time ago; all the time I've tried to start it, it crashes with SIGSEGV. Nobody was able to offer an answer, but I was able to get rid of this problem, by changing from IMAP to POP. As it turned out, some Emails forced the the crash, when kmail tried to load them into its IMAP folders. Cheers Alexander --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 05:05, Alexander Beck-Ratzka wrote:
Sure would like to upgrade. Any help or ideas will sure be appreciated.
I've had a similar problem with Kmail some time ago; all the time I've tried to start it, it crashes with SIGSEGV. Nobody was able to offer an answer, but I was able to get rid of this problem, by changing from IMAP to POP. As it turned out, some Emails forced the the crash, when kmail tried to load them into its IMAP folders.
Hello Alexander, Thanks for your input. No, IMAP should not be the problem because all of my accounts are POP3. Bob S --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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Pavel Nemec -
Robert Smits -
Terry Bohaning