[opensuse-kde] Release/47 early?

Markus Slopianka

12 Jun 2011 12 Jun '11

12:45

In the past the Release repo was only created after the official release. But except for minor aspects (mainly localization) the Release Canidates are already "done". It'd be cool to have the Release/47 repo created in the RC stage to have it up and running and ready to be in the upstream 4.7 announcement. Early RC testers would also not have to switch forth and back between Factory and Release repo. Markus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

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todd rme

12 Jun 12 Jun

13:05

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Markus Slopianka wrote:

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In the past the Release repo was only created after the official release. But except for minor aspects (mainly localization) the Release Canidates are already "done".

Personally this seems premature considering Beta 2 has not even been released yet. Although it may be feature-complete, there is still probably quite a bit of bug fixing to do, and there are still basic issues with the release (such as packaging) that have not been resolved yet (according to the release-team mailing list). I am using beta 1 right now, and it is far from stable for me.

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It'd be cool to have the Release/47 repo created in the RC stage to have it up and running and ready to be in the upstream 4.7 announcement. Early RC testers would also not have to switch forth and back between Factory and Release repo.

Isn't this what the Unstable:SC repo is for? Why can't people use that? I don't think it can properly be put in Release/47 because there hasn't been a 4.7 release yet. Then there is the issue that there seems to be changes in how the release is being packaged, and I assume the openSUSE-KDE team will want to update the OBS repo structure to reflect this. But that can't be done until the final structure is determined, and as best as I can tell it hasn't yet. -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Markus Slopianka

13:30

Am Sonntag 12 Juni 2011, 15:05:39 schrieb todd rme:

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On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Markus Slopianka wrote:

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In the past the Release repo was only created after the official release. But except for minor aspects (mainly localization) the Release Canidates are already "done".

Personally this seems premature considering Beta 2 has not even been released yet. Although it may be feature-complete, there is still probably quite a bit of bug fixing to do, and there are still basic issues with the release (such as packaging) that have not been resolved yet (according to the release-team mailing list). I am using beta 1 right now, and it is far from stable for me.

I was explicitly referring to the Release Candidates, NOT betas. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Martin Schlander

13:27

Søndag den 12. juni 2011 14:45:06 skrev Markus Slopianka:

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In the past the Release repo was only created after the official release. But except for minor aspects (mainly localization) the Release Canidates are already "done". It'd be cool to have the Release/47 repo created in the RC stage to have it up and running and ready to be in the upstream 4.7 announcement. Early RC testers would also not have to switch forth and back between Factory and Release repo.

4.7 will presumably be built in KDF starting next week. The KR47 project was already created, so it just needs a whole lot of linking to be done, once 4.7 exists in KDF. And you can help with this to make sure it's ready when 4.7 is released. However I agree with Todd that it would be counterproductive to publish 4.7 there _before_ the official release. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Will Stephenson

14 Jun 14 Jun

09:54

On 12/06/11 15:27, Martin Schlander wrote:

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Søndag den 12. juni 2011 14:45:06 skrev Markus Slopianka:

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In the past the Release repo was only created after the official release. But except for minor aspects (mainly localization) the Release Canidates are already "done". It'd be cool to have the Release/47 repo created in the RC stage to have it up and running and ready to be in the upstream 4.7 announcement. Early RC testers would also not have to switch forth and back between Factory and Release repo.

4.7 will presumably be built in KDF starting next week.

The KR47 project was already created, so it just needs a whole lot of linking to be done, once 4.7 exists in KDF. And you can help with this to make sure it's ready when 4.7 is released.

However I agree with Todd that it would be counterproductive to publish 4.7 there _before_ the official release.

Agree, KR47 is for releases, not for RCs/Betas. KDE:Release:* are supposed to be stable releases, not for testing, and it's additional packaging overhead. KDF is the right place for testing. Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Markus Slopianka

12:39

Am Dienstag 14 Juni 2011, 11:54:32 schrieb Will Stephenson:

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Agree, KR47 is for releases, not for RCs/Betas. KDE:Release:* are supposed to be stable releases, not for testing, and it's additional packaging overhead. KDF is the right place for testing.

It's not about testing. It's about to have the repo up and running when SC 4.7 is released. In the past the KDE announcement directed users to the Factory repo. That's not OK. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Javier Llorente

18 Jun 18 Jun

19:22

El Martes, 14 de Junio de 2011 11:54:32 Will Stephenson escribió:

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On 12/06/11 15:27, Martin Schlander wrote:

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Søndag den 12. juni 2011 14:45:06 skrev Markus Slopianka:

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In the past the Release repo was only created after the official release. But except for minor aspects (mainly localization) the Release Canidates are already "done". It'd be cool to have the Release/47 repo created in the RC stage to have it up and running and ready to be in the upstream 4.7 announcement. Early RC testers would also not have to switch forth and back between Factory and Release repo.

4.7 will presumably be built in KDF starting next week.

The KR47 project was already created, so it just needs a whole lot of linking to be done, once 4.7 exists in KDF. And you can help with this to make sure it's ready when 4.7 is released.

However I agree with Todd that it would be counterproductive to publish 4.7 there _before_ the official release.

Agree, KR47 is for releases, not for RCs/Betas. KDE:Release:* are supposed to be stable releases, not for testing, and it's additional packaging overhead. KDF is the right place for testing.

I'll gladly help with KDE:Release:47 to make 4.7.0 ready to be downloaded once it's released. Perhaps we could coordinate a bit on IRC? Just ping me :) Cheers, -- Javier Llorente

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