On Wednesday 05 November 2014 14:25:56 Todd Rme wrote:

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Raymond Wooninck wrote:

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KDE:Unstable:Extra repository will slowly make the shift to build those KDE packages that are currently being ported to KDE Frameworks, This also includes applications that are part of the KDE SC. This repository will be build against KDE:Frameworks5 and KDE:Unstable:Frameworks

Will existing unstable packages remain here or will they be removed?

The target would be to remove the packages and to replace them with the ones based on KF5. However we will check/validate with the packages that are present in KDE:Extra. If a package is not present in KDE:Extra, then the unstable package will be moved to KDE:Extra. If the package in KDE:Extra is present, then we will validate if it would make sense to update the KDE:Extra package with the one in KDE:Unstable:Extra. Before we actually do the deletion, we will publish the list here what will happen with which package. Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 05 of November 2014 15:35:38 Stanislav Baiduzhyi wrote:

Thanx Raymond, that was really helpful. But in addition to that I'd like to ask more questions:

* What will be the update policy of KDE:Qt5 repo, is it "latest stable" (released? no idea how to call it correctly) or "latest git"? KDE:Qt5 always had/will have (some kind of) releases, either beta, rc or final.

* Could you please list KF5 repositories which require unreleased version of Qt5 instead of "latest stable"? Basically, the KF5 repositories we will not be able to use while having released/stable version of Qt5. None yet. Probably around RC phase for Qt 5.4, we will switch KDE:Unstable:Frameworks and KDE:Frameworks5 to either KDE:Qt5, or KDE:Qt54. ATM, for released openSUSE versions, one should use KDE:Qt5.

Cheers, Hrvoje

On Wednesday 05 November 2014 14:14:55 Raymond Wooninck wrote:

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Dear openSUSE KDE user,

With openSUSE 13.2, the 4.14.2 release for KDE 4 was shipped. Like with every openSUSE release, the openSUSE KDE team will provide the 4.14.x updates through the normal maintenance channel to oS 13.2 users. For oS 12.3 and 13.1 users, these updates will appear in the KDE:Current repository.

4.14 is the last release of the so-called Software Compilation. Upstream has started an effort to port applications to Qt5 and the KDE Frameworks 5 (KF5), and on top of that libraries, the workspace (Plasma) and applications will follow separate release schedules. On top of that, the subsequent releases of the applications will feature also KF5 based software, and the number is rapidly increasing.

In short an openSUSE 13.2 user would only require to add KDE:Extra as an additional resource in YaST/zypper to stay up-to-date regarding KDE packages.

Below I will indicate in more details what the changes per repository will be.

KDE:Current repository will remain as is and will not be enabled for openSUSE 13.2. As indicated that last KDE 4 release was shipped with oS 13.2 and will be kept up-to-date with maintenance updates. It would be useless to build KDE:Current for 13.2 and waste buildpower.

KDE:Extra repository has been built for openSUSE 13.2 and people will be able to find here the latest released versions of KDE applications that are not part of the KDE SC. Of course we will also enable the build for the new Tumbleweed repository.

KDE:Distro:Factory repository is the devel project for Factory and will not be build anymore for anything else than Factory. All other build targets will be removed within the next few days.

KDE:Unstable:SC repository will disappear as that there will be no new major release for KDE 4.

KDE:Unstable:Extra repository will slowly make the shift to build those KDE packages that are currently being ported to KDE Frameworks, This also includes applications that are part of the KDE SC. This repository will be build against KDE:Frameworks5 and KDE:Unstable:Frameworks

KDE:Qt repository will remain as is. openSUSE 13.2 will not be added as an additional build target as that the current Qt 4.8.6 release is also most likely the last release for Qt 4. In the case that we will see a newer Qt 4 release, then we will provide the update here and enable the build for openSUSE 13.2. If this Qt 4 update will also be provided as a Maintenance Update for 13.2 has to been seen.

KDE:Frameworks5 repository has already been enabled for openSUSE 13.2.

KDE:Unstable:Frameworks repository will build for openSUSE 13.1 and openSUSE 13.2 periodically.

Regards,

openSUSE KDE team

On Wednesday 05 November 2014 16:01:28 Raymond Wooninck wrote:

On Wednesday 05 November 2014 15:35:38 Stanislav Baiduzhyi wrote:

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* What will be the update policy of KDE:Qt5 repo, is it "latest stable" (released? no idea how to call it correctly) or "latest git"? KDE:Qt5 holds the latest released Qt 5.x files. So at this moment this is equal to Qt 5.3.2. This repository is also a devel project for Factory

Hm, Šumski wrote that it also may contain beta or rc releases? If that is true - which repository can we use to have stable version only? Similarly to KDE:Current.

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* Could you please list KF5 repositories which require unreleased version of Qt5 instead of "latest stable"? Basically, the KF5 repositories we will not be able to use while having released/stable version of Qt5. Euh ? I don't know what your are trying to say here.

The required Qt 5 version for KF5 is determined by KF5 itself. All of our main KF5 repositories are building either against the Qt 5 version in Factory or in KDE:Qt5.

I mean that there are 2 KF5 repositories available: KDE:Frameworks5 KDE:Unstable:Frameworks If I have my system configured to use only released version of Qt, so 5.3.x at the moment and 5.4.x in couple of weeks/month, will I be able to use any of those KF5 repositories, or one/both of them will move to Qt 5.5 git as soon as possible? -- Regards, Stas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

Thanx, that's much clearer now. On Thursday 06 November 2014 11:21:08 šumski wrote:

On Thursday 06 of November 2014 10:59:02 Stanislav Baiduzhyi wrote:

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On Wednesday 05 November 2014 16:01:28 Raymond Wooninck wrote:

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On Wednesday 05 November 2014 15:35:38 Stanislav Baiduzhyi wrote:

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* What will be the update policy of KDE:Qt5 repo, is it "latest stable"

(released? no idea how to call it correctly) or "latest git"?

KDE:Qt5 holds the latest released Qt 5.x files. So at this moment this is equal to Qt 5.3.2. This repository is also a devel project for Factory

Hm, Šumski wrote that it also may contain beta or rc releases? If that is true - which repository can we use to have stable version only? Similarly to KDE:Current.

KDE:Qt5 is a devel project, so consider is equivalent to e.g. KDF. In KDE:Qt53 there is 5.3.2, and there will be no updates for that repo anymore, unless upstream suddenly decides to release 5.3.3.

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* Could you please list KF5 repositories which require unreleased version

of Qt5 instead of "latest stable"? Basically, the KF5 repositories we will not be able to use while having released/stable version of Qt5.

Euh ? I don't know what your are trying to say here.

The required Qt 5 version for KF5 is determined by KF5 itself. All of our main KF5 repositories are building either against the Qt 5 version in Factory or in KDE:Qt5.

I mean that there are 2 KF5 repositories available: KDE:Frameworks5 KDE:Unstable:Frameworks

If I have my system configured to use only released version of Qt, so 5.3.x at the moment and 5.4.x in couple of weeks/month, will I be able to use any of those KF5 repositories, or one/both of them will move to Qt 5.5 git as soon as possible?

As i wrote, ATM both repositories are using KDE:Qt5 as a base for non Factory distributions. In somewhat near future, they will switch to either KDE:Qt54 (KUF), or KDE:Qt5 with Qt 5.4 RC or final (to be seen). There are no plans for switching to 5.5 in next couple months even...

-- Regards, Stas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org