This is a problem i've been having to do with my x windows. Basically i've got an optiplex260 with on board graphics. I've harassed the newsgroup at my university and i don't know what to do next tro get suse running(8.0).Maybe something to do with my partitioning? I've done some investigating and have found that my computer video controllers and the sound, video and game controllers are on-board video = Intel 845G PCI Accelerated SVGA , sound sound, video and game = Intel Pro 1000 MT Network I have problems getting the floppy working so am unable to post the log files.However upon looking at it thoroughly i found in the boot.log file : <3> Unknown bridge resource 2 :assuming transparent PCI-IDE :unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00devicef9 VID=8086 DID24cb PCI: Device 00:1f .1 not available because of resource collisions PCI_IDE: (ide _setup_pci_device:)could not enable device. This seems to me to be the problem. However in investigating ways of accessing my log files I came acoss an interesting program called ltools which allows you to access linux filesystems on your windows pc or vice-versa. It checked my partitions on my computer which are as follows: /dev/hda1 :de 31MB from CHS /dev/hda2: NTFS/HPFS 43182MB /dev/hda3: Win ExPar 33126MB /dev/hda5:Linux Swap2047MB /dev/hda6:Linux EXT2 31078MB It told me that I have 'Bad Magic Number in superblock. Not Linux. Error loading superblock. This got me thinking, is my partioning incorrect? I used the partition magic 7 wizard to set up a linux partition booting from lilo.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 09 October 2002 17:04, Christopher Mahmood wrote:
* pied2 (pied2@ukc.ac.uk) [021009 14:52]:
This is a problem i've been having to do with my x windows.
This really should be on suse-linux-e.
Well, he's close. We should answer questions here; not act like a cop. That list is waay too busy. Pied, Linux is having serious trouble identifying your Northbridge, which is causing most of the problems. Is this an Intel, or an AMD board? What kind of PCI bridge? Via? Intel? In your computer's bios is PlugNPlay turned OFF? And particularly if this is a notebook, you must disable "PCI Bus Power Mgmt". This =is= Suse8 isn't it? If need be, you can create floppies with boot and drivers (in /images?) and manually load the one you need. I had to do this for fibrechannel. There's no way to get anything right until you have the correct system drivers installed. On initial boot of the install, Linux tries to autosize your devices, and is apparently getting it wrong at this stage. Hit f5 on the Install boot screen, then proceed. Check the fly-by boot listings before any measures, then after. If you make it to X you can <CTL><ALT><F1> and see the most recent transactions, as this is console0. <CTL><ALT><F7> to get back. Once it has underlying drivers right, fix the partition. Ensure you have backups, then run the Suse install. Go into Expert partitioning and delete hda5 and hda6, re-create them, ensure they get formatted, and complete the process. BTW, know anything about compiling the kernel? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj2ljFUACgkQnQ18+PFcZJswMQCeN4NXJiabTqdU7sDzh9a47+ST 2k4An24oySwracpbkM4PIbc8DHO7aMv/ =Hl5L -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
* Carl (quantum@ultra2k.com) [021010 07:20]:
This really should be on suse-linux-e.
Well, he's close. We should answer questions here; not act like a cop.
Just like your recent "how do I build a kernel" thread, this is completely off-topic and doesn't belong here.
That list is waay too busy.
What's the point of splitting the lists in an attempt to make sle a little more manageable if no one cooperates? I might as well move everything to über-suse@suse.com so that I only have one list to administer instead of the 53 we currently have. -- -ckm
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 10 October 2002 15:56, Christopher Mahmood wrote:
That list is waay too busy.
What's the point of splitting the lists in an attempt to make sle a little more manageable if no one cooperates? I might as well move everything to über-suse@suse.com so that I only have one list to administer instead of the 53 we currently have.
Ah. The problem is most of those other lists are inactive in relation to sle, thus the active one is inaccessible, not simply that I'm an anarchist and heretic. I think it was smart to split off KDE. Though it is surprisingly slow. Let me suggest that sle be subdivided a bit more and some of those others consolidated. For example split off kernel. And networking. And (whatever other major areas of questions are asked on sle) This way we could sub cafeteria-style and avoid the noise we don't need. Maybe the specialists would start answering again, when they don't have to filter tons. And overall internet traffic would be reduced, with less filtering. Consolidating some of the other lists could actually reduce your workload. I'd say that for Pro8 there need be a max of 10 lists. With some overlap in Enterprise, and whatever else. Can you ascertain question content categories reliably? I'd think the Law of Large Numbers would apply, and content proportions would stay fairly constant. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj2l7mYACgkQnQ18+PFcZJuS2wCfaSlymyW2NQtleTGRAiSgr80X urIAn3I9vVtYhOebpVzvcy2EUjjBs3pV =jaPq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
quantum@ultra2k.com wrote:
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On Thursday, 10 October 2002 15:56, Christopher Mahmood wrote:
That list is waay too busy.
What's the point of splitting the lists in an attempt to make sle a little more manageable if no one cooperates? I might as well move everything to über-suse@suse.com so that I only have one list to administer instead of the 53 we currently have.
Ah. The problem is most of those other lists are inactive in relation to sle, thus the active one is inaccessible, not simply that I'm an anarchist and heretic.
There's that word again
I think it was smart to split off KDE. Though it is surprisingly slow.
If you are to believe mmj, suse-kde was created to stop SLE being swamped with kde related topics. In that respect it hasn't really worked. :)
Let me suggest that sle be subdivided a bit more and some of those others consolidated. For example split off kernel. And networking. And (whatever other major areas of questions are asked on sle) This way we could sub cafeteria-style and avoid the noise we don't need.
And we'd get tons more mail asking where the proper place for a mail is, and the corresponding amount of mail with replies.
Maybe the specialists would start answering again,
Did they stop? 100 mails per day isn't really much. Most you can skip because they're in a thread you're not interested in. And most mailers have very good search functions. Besides, many many people say that SLE is a great list because it's a place where they can 'lurk' and get info on problems they have, used to have, know someone who have, or might one day get. I think it would be a loss if that were to go away, but maybe that's just me //Anders
On Thursday 10 October 2002 17:29, Anders Johansson wrote:
100 mails per day isn't really much. Most you can skip because they're in a thread you're not interested in. And most mailers have very good search functions.
Besides, many many people say that SLE is a great list because it's a place where they can 'lurk' and get info on problems they have, used to have, know someone who have, or might one day get.
I think it would be a loss if that were to go away, but maybe that's just me
Nope. Not just you. That's also what I like about this list, and about the Techwr-l list and the OpenOffice [Users] list. They're active. Enough people post enough queries and responses that it's worth checking every day... sometimes many times in a day. There's always something going on, and if two or three threads are boring to me, there'll be at least that many active ones that are interesting. As well, there's enough activity that there'll be several opinions about most questions and answers, and often there'll be enlightening discussions about the "whys" of the different opinions. The KDE list is quite slow, and while it sometimes has useful exchanges, there are long dry spells. Even there, people are telling other people to piss off and take their X questions to an X list. Given how closely KDE is tied to X, and how many people (especially new ones) don't understand where the lines are... well, I just don't find that approach very useful or helpful. I don't learn a lot from the KDE list. I learn a lot from this one. (Although, sometimes you can't tell from my dumb questions...) /kevin ** DIR-ty DEEDS, and they're DONE dirt cheap. (Sing it, now...)
On Thursday, 10 October 2002 15:56, Christopher Mahmood wrote:
That list is waay too busy.
What's the point of splitting the lists in an attempt to make sle a little more manageable if no one cooperates? I might as well move everything to über-suse@suse.com so that I only have one list to administer instead of the 53 we currently have.
Ah. The problem is most of those other lists are inactive in relation to sle, thus the active one is inaccessible, not simply that I'm an anarchist and heretic.
I think it was smart to split off KDE. Though it is surprisingly slow. (snip) ==================== Carl, I suspect that if you are looking for the less traveled path, then maybe suscribe to the lists that have already broken off for general discussions and problems with less traffic. Tim Butler has one (OFB-talk) and there is the lx-talk list as well. Christopher shouldn't have to continually explain how things work here or with any other of the SuSE lists. If you feel overwhelmed with the mail on
On Thursday 10 October 2002 17:17, Carl wrote: these lists and don't feel like you are getting your answers, then move on to a list you feel better serves your needs, there are many. Maybe you want to create your own and maintain it yourself. Even this thread has gone on longer than it should have and I believe Christopher and the other subscribers here have been more than patient with it. You seem intent on keeping it going though for some reason, just as you did with a great many things on the SLE list while you were using the Anonymous Coward title. A lot of us probably feel our patience coming to an end and would like your whining, bickering mails to go away. I know that might be difficult for you to do, in your present condition, but there is help out there for you, really there is. Patrick --- KMail v1.4.3 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 10 October 2002 16:42, Patrick wrote:
On Thursday 10 October 2002 17:17, Carl wrote:
On Thursday, 10 October 2002 15:56, Christopher Mahmood wrote:
That list is waay too busy.
What's the point of splitting the lists in an attempt to make sle a little more manageable if no one cooperates? I might as well move everything to über-suse@suse.com so that I only have one list to administer instead of the 53 we currently have.
Ah. The problem is most of those other lists are inactive in relation to sle, thus the active one is inaccessible, not simply that I'm an anarchist and heretic.
I think it was smart to split off KDE. Though it is surprisingly slow.
(snip) ==================== Carl, I suspect that if you are looking for the less traveled path, then maybe suscribe to the lists that have already broken off for general discussions and problems with less traffic. Tim Butler has one (OFB-talk) and there is the lx-talk list as well. Christopher shouldn't have to continually explain how things work here or with any other of the SuSE lists. If you feel overwhelmed with the mail on these lists and don't feel like you are getting your answers, then move on to a list you feel better serves your needs, there are many. Maybe you want to create your own and maintain it yourself.
Even this thread has gone on longer than it should have and I believe Christopher and the other subscribers here have been more than patient with it. You seem intent on keeping it going though for some reason, just as you did with a great many things on the SLE list while you were using the Anonymous Coward title. A lot of us probably feel our patience coming to an end and would like your whining, bickering mails to go away. I know that might be difficult for you to do, in your present condition, but there is help out there for you, really there is.
Patrick
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Let's do the calculus Patrick. (You never like anyone anyway) In my email I proposed that this is a problem, and not only that, but I also tried to suggest a solution. In yours you merely criticized and told me to go away, although granted, it was a milder strafing than you usually give. (BTW, AC alludes to a practice on Slashdot; it is not a profession of courage, or lack of such, LOL) Ya, I complain when I'm pissed on. And ego trips are the largest generator of 'waste material' on the lists. I didn't say 'mine is the only way'. I said 'I am precluded, and this seems like a problem'. Whiney to some, maybe. If the majority agrees with the list structure, so be it. I'll respect it. But you would rather people just shut up. This attitude is destructive. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj2l/okACgkQnQ18+PFcZJtU1wCfaDLZBtNiPRQVcdV+RoJNt6AP GdsAn3CzOufmEplWuWgcxXx2BRmqShpa =PRvH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
quantum@ultra2k.com wrote:
I didn't say 'mine is the only way'. I said 'I am precluded, and this seems like a problem'. Whiney to some, maybe. If the majority agrees with the list structure, so be it. I'll respect it.
Do you? Or do you tell people you don't need lectures? The proper way to deal with this sort of problem is to send a mail to the mail administrator and say something like "This is too much for me to handle, I can't participate in any meaningful way. Wouldn't it be better if you did things this way instead". Not send a lot of off-topic messages to other lists because you feel you should be allowed to. For an investment banker you have surprisingly poor social skills. //Anders
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have a minor yet annoying printer problem with kde. I am running SUSE 8.0 (Intel) with KDE 3.0.0 and CUPS 1.1.12-69. Whenever I print t, I get a blank page kicked out at the end of the print job. I have set the printer config in CUPS to not have an ending banner. I have checked the printing manager in the KDE Control Center. I have checked YAST2. What am I missing? Any help will be appreciated. Thanks, John - -- John Quentin Heywood heywood@american.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9ptQxgYU8OFyQRP4RAqueAJ9BgCpL8IrNlxFPy0ntCTka1bFvkACfcoWw C6kA3IYHzyPOIbfpHOZSess= =TQd9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Friday 11 October 2002 09:37, John Quentin Heywood wrote:
I have a minor yet annoying printer problem with kde. I am running SUSE 8.0 (Intel) with KDE 3.0.0 and CUPS 1.1.12-69. Whenever I print t, I get a blank page kicked out at the end of the print job. I have set the printer config in CUPS to not have an ending banner. I have checked the printing manager in the KDE Control Center. I have checked YAST2. What am I missing? Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks,
John =====================
John, Have you checked for "form feeds"? I am not using CUPS on mine, but in the printer setup for lpr, it asks in the setup about an extra form feed at the end of a printing job. It could also be the printer too, not knowing when to stop from the commands given it. I suspect though that it might just be that the settings or from the program you are printing from is sending it an extra page command. Patrick --- KMail v1.4.3 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206
On Friday 11 October 2002 16:25, Patrick wrote:
I have a minor yet annoying printer problem with kde. I am running SUSE 8.0 (Intel) with KDE 3.0.0 and CUPS 1.1.12-69. Whenever I print t, I get a blank page kicked out at the end of the print job. I have set the printer config in CUPS to not have an ending banner. I have checked the printing manager in the KDE Control Center. I have checked YAST2. What am I missing? Any help will be appreciated. ... Have you checked for "form feeds"? I am not using CUPS on mine, but in
On Friday 11 October 2002 09:37, John Quentin Heywood wrote: the printer setup for lpr, it asks in the setup about an extra form feed at the end of a printing job.
It could also be the printer too, not knowing when to stop from the commands given it. I suspect though that it might just be that the settings or from the program you are printing from is sending it an extra page command.
I have a similar problem, but I am sure that it is not the printer itself. Before SuSE-8.1 I have used SuSE-8.0 with lprng and everything works pretty well concerning printing. After upgrading to SuSE-8.1 on my clients, I switched on these clients to cups. On my printserver two printers are connected both running with lprng, and now both printers send an extra page at the end of a print job, but only when they are used from the clients running cups. Now I have moved my Laser-Jet to another server with cups-server, and now it does not send an extra page when used from another client. So at least in my enviroment it is the interoperability between lprng and cups. Michael@karbach.org
* Carl (quantum@ultra2k.com) [021010 14:18]:
Let me suggest that sle be subdivided a bit more and some of those others consolidated. For example split off kernel. And networking. And (whatever other major areas of questions are asked on sle)
Why? You've already demonstrated that you'll ignore the distinctions and encourage others to do the same.
Can you ascertain question content categories reliably? I'd think the Law of Large Numbers would apply, and content proportions would stay fairly constant.
The law of large numbers doesn't apply since the posts aren't independent: if someone sees other people posting off-topic questions they might be more likely to do the same. Can we please end this now? suse-kde is for KDE discussions, suse-linux-e (or suse-linux, or suse-linux-s, or suse-linux-ja) are for anything else that doesn't have its own list. Thank you, -- -ckm
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