Problem with fonts / Anti-Aliasing
Hi, last week I bought a new monitor and up to know I do not get a satisfactory display with fonts. Apart from that, the monitor is great. I have SuSE linux 9.0 with KDE 3.1.4. My monitor is an EIZO L985EX with 1600x1200 Pixels @ 60 Hz (DVI). My graphics card is Matrox G450-23c3, if that matters. With KDE I use the "standard" fonts Sans and Nimbus Sans L with sizes 12pt and 13pt respectively. If I switch off Anti-Aliasing, the letters look really ugly. If I switch it on, they are heavily blurred. I have tried Sub-Pixel-Hinting of all four kinds. The best result was archived with vertical RGB, but the letters are still blurred to much. They have blue (or green) and read (or orange) shadows below and above horizontal lines. I tried other fonts. Some have the same problem, others do not at all. The latter are realy black and sharp with no shadow at all. I do not understand, why only some fonts have this problem. On the other hand, letters of fonts that do not have this problem, are not easy to read for other reasons, so I would like to stay with Sans and Nimbus Sans L. What can I do (if anythig?). By the way: In trying out other fonts with some applications, I got another problem: With terminals (the console) the default font was Sans / Nimbus Sans L by default. I can change the font, but then I cannot set it back to Sans. The font is not offered! Other applications, e.g. Konqueror, do offer Nimbus Sans L to switch back to. How can I do the same with the console? Thanks in advance for any help, Andreas.
On Sunday 03 October 2004 10:19, dr.andreas.schenk@gmx.net wrote:
What can I do (if anythig?).
I turn turn anti-aliasing on and hinting off. Also other apps like Openoffice are horrible without the Xfree 100dpi fonts on 9.1. Try installing the rpm with yast. I suspect the font databases are not updated with yast and KDE 3.3. So when you have installed the font rpm - go into the kde control panel - administration - font installer in administration mode. Do nothing and exit. This seems to fix a lot of problems. Also you might try fonts-config --force --verbose for comfort. Restart X to see any difference. Hope this helps, Berni
Here is my advise, which may be illegal to follow where you are.
Download the freetype2 sources from http://www.freetype.org and
recompile the freetype libraries with bytecode interpreter enabled.
(Read the instructions with the freetype2 sources to figure out how to
do that). Install this libraries. You may want to download the same
version of freetype2 as already installed on your linux. you can find
that by doing
rpm -qa | grep freetype2
most likely it is 2.1.7 for Suse 9.1 but I am not 100% sure about it.
Just double-check it.
Now, download MS Free Truetype fonts (I think it is available from
sourceforget - the project is called msttffonts or something similar).
Use the MS Free truetype fonts.
Also, make sure that the DPI is 96x96. Run xdpyinfo and search for
dots per inch. If it is not 96x96, chances are that font rendering
will not be it's best. You can specify the DPI by the --dpi argument
to X .
Osho
On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 11:19:11 +0200, dr.andreas.schenk@gmx.net
Hi,
last week I bought a new monitor and up to know I do not get a satisfactory display with fonts. Apart from that, the monitor is great.
I have SuSE linux 9.0 with KDE 3.1.4. My monitor is an EIZO L985EX with 1600x1200 Pixels @ 60 Hz (DVI). My graphics card is Matrox G450-23c3, if that matters.
With KDE I use the "standard" fonts Sans and Nimbus Sans L with sizes 12pt and 13pt respectively. If I switch off Anti-Aliasing, the letters look really ugly. If I switch it on, they are heavily blurred. I have tried Sub-Pixel-Hinting of all four kinds. The best result was archived with vertical RGB, but the letters are still blurred to much. They have blue (or green) and read (or orange) shadows below and above horizontal lines.
I tried other fonts. Some have the same problem, others do not at all. The latter are realy black and sharp with no shadow at all. I do not understand, why only some fonts have this problem. On the other hand, letters of fonts that do not have this problem, are not easy to read for other reasons, so I would like to stay with Sans and Nimbus Sans L.
What can I do (if anythig?).
By the way: In trying out other fonts with some applications, I got another problem:
With terminals (the console) the default font was Sans / Nimbus Sans L by default. I can change the font, but then I cannot set it back to Sans. The font is not offered! Other applications, e.g. Konqueror, do offer Nimbus Sans L to switch back to. How can I do the same with the console?
Thanks in advance for any help,
Andreas.
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Hi, after living a couple of months with the problem, I am now pretty shure that it must be a bug in KInternet. The phaenomenon: my system regularly freeses completely. A couple of times this resulted in dataloss, although I have a reiserFS. This freesing only happens a fraction of a second after I did something with KInternet. Till today this occured only right after I closed an open connection. Today it happend for the first time after I changed the provider, still being offline. So I conclude that it cannot be related to my hardware or driver but must be a bug in KInternet itself. -- Maybe this conclusion is wrong. I already contacted SuSE for help. They guessed that my problem should be related to ACPI and suggested to switch it off completely. I tried it, but it didn't help. What I have: Software: SuSE Linux 9.0, KDE 3.1.4, KInternet 0.55 Hardware: CELSIUS M420 workstation, Teledat X120 ISDN modem Interface: ippp0 Driver: avmfritzcapi Thanks for any help, Andreas
The phaenomenon: my system regularly freeses completely. A couple of times this resulted in dataloss, although I have a reiserFS. This freesing only happens a fraction of a second after I did something with KInternet. Till today this occured only right after I closed an open connection. Today it happend for the first time after I changed the provider, still being offline.
So I conclude that it cannot be related to my hardware or driver but must be a bug in KInternet itself.
Changing provider doesn't change your hardware or driver, and your symptoms are consistent with kernel/driver lockups. I have seen something very similar with SuLi 9.1 and the Intel536 losemodem driver which was shortly after withdrawn again for that freezing reason. Try different modem hardware. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
Thanks for your advice! I didn't check the legal part yet, but had a closer look at my system. A couple of questions arose: (1) I currently have the freetype library in two places: /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6.3.3 (394821) /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so (33679) The sizes are given in parenthesis. Why do I have the lib twice and above that in different sizes? Which one would I have to replace? (2) My monitor has a size of 440 mm x 330 mm at 1600 x 1200 pixels, giving almost 92 dpi. xdpyinfo gives me the same values. So it seems wrong to me to set X to 96 x 96 -- but I cannot judge this. If so, why is it right, and won't it blure pictures, windows etc.? (3) Well, I am not an expert, but where is X startet, so that I could specify the dpi setting? Thanks, Andreas. Am Sonntag, 3. Oktober 2004 23:27 schrieb Osho GG:
Here is my advise, which may be illegal to follow where you are.
Download the freetype2 sources from http://www.freetype.org and recompile the freetype libraries with bytecode interpreter enabled. (Read the instructions with the freetype2 sources to figure out how to do that). Install this libraries. You may want to download the same version of freetype2 as already installed on your linux. you can find that by doing
rpm -qa | grep freetype2
most likely it is 2.1.7 for Suse 9.1 but I am not 100% sure about it. Just double-check it.
Now, download MS Free Truetype fonts (I think it is available from sourceforget - the project is called msttffonts or something similar). Use the MS Free truetype fonts.
Also, make sure that the DPI is 96x96. Run xdpyinfo and search for dots per inch. If it is not 96x96, chances are that font rendering will not be it's best. You can specify the DPI by the --dpi argument to X .
Osho
On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 11:19:11 +0200, dr.andreas.schenk@gmx.net
wrote: Hi,
last week I bought a new monitor and up to know I do not get a satisfactory display with fonts. Apart from that, the monitor is great.
I have SuSE linux 9.0 with KDE 3.1.4. My monitor is an EIZO L985EX with 1600x1200 Pixels @ 60 Hz (DVI). My graphics card is Matrox G450-23c3, if that matters.
With KDE I use the "standard" fonts Sans and Nimbus Sans L with sizes 12pt and 13pt respectively. If I switch off Anti-Aliasing, the letters look really ugly. If I switch it on, they are heavily blurred. I have tried Sub-Pixel-Hinting of all four kinds. The best result was archived with vertical RGB, but the letters are still blurred to much. They have blue (or green) and read (or orange) shadows below and above horizontal lines.
I tried other fonts. Some have the same problem, others do not at all. The latter are realy black and sharp with no shadow at all. I do not understand, why only some fonts have this problem. On the other hand, letters of fonts that do not have this problem, are not easy to read for other reasons, so I would like to stay with Sans and Nimbus Sans L.
What can I do (if anythig?).
By the way: In trying out other fonts with some applications, I got another problem:
With terminals (the console) the default font was Sans / Nimbus Sans L by default. I can change the font, but then I cannot set it back to Sans. The font is not offered! Other applications, e.g. Konqueror, do offer Nimbus Sans L to switch back to. How can I do the same with the console?
Thanks in advance for any help,
Andreas.
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Hi, ...
(3) Well, I am not an expert, but where is X startet, so that I could specify the dpi setting?
You can specify the dpi by setting the size of your monitor (in mm) in the "Monitor" section in the X11 config file (/etc/X11/XF86Config or /etc/XF86Config) just specify: Section "Monitor" ... DisplaySize 285 213 EndSection where the first value is the width (285) and the second (213) is the height (both in mm). Greetings, Dirk.
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 23:18:40 +0200, dr.andreas.schenk@gmx.net
Thanks for your advice!
I didn't check the legal part yet, but had a closer look at my system. A couple of questions arose:
(1) I currently have the freetype library in two places:
/usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6.3.3 (394821)
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so (33679)
The sizes are given in parenthesis. Why do I have the lib twice and above that in different sizes? Which one would I have to replace?
I think you would have to replace the /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6.3.3. When you download the sources for freetype2, run the configure with ./configure --prefix=/usr and that will automatically do the right thing when you run make install.
(2) My monitor has a size of 440 mm x 330 mm at 1600 x 1200 pixels, giving almost 92 dpi. xdpyinfo gives me the same values. So it seems wrong to me to set X to 96 x 96 -- but I cannot judge this. If so, why is it right, and won't it blure pictures, windows etc.?
Add DisplaySize 420 315 in your X configuration file (typically XF86Config-4) Section "Monitor" DisplaySize 420 315 Endsection Yeah, it doesn't match with your real monitor but don't worry. 96dpi is what works best for the font rendering - and it will not blur pictures or windows etc.
(3) Well, I am not an expert, but where is X startet, so that I could specify the dpi setting?
If you do the DisplaySize change then you don't have to do this. Good luck, Osho
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Bernard Elbourn
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Dirk Osswald
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dr.andreas.schenk@gmx.net
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Osho GG
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Volker Kuhlmann