[opensuse-kde] [tumbleweed] kde/plasma/wayland: Primary Selection Protocol (middle-mouse to paste)

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Sedat Dilek

13 Jun 2018 13 Jun '18

15:26

Hi, after I tried KDE/Plasma/Wayland on Debian/testing AMD64 I inspired my colleague Joop Boonen to test it on OpenSuse/tumbleweed. Everything was fine besides Primary Selection (middle-mouse to paste), so I stopped using Plasma/Wayland. Joop is able to use primary selection in every application (KDE or GTK). So, I was surprised. Here on KDE/Plasma 5.12.5 I cannot do that (for example cut-n-paste in konsole via middle-mouse paste into firefox). I asked on the wayland-devel ML [1] with no answer. The retired KWin maintainer wanted to have this feature in wayland-protocols before implementing it in KWin/Plasma/Wayland. So, what magic did you do in OpenSuse? The Gnome-way? [1] has references on how Gnome did it in mutter. Or can you point me to the relevant packages with name (sources and patches)? Thanks in advance. Regards, - Sedat - [1] https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2018-April/037748.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

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Patrick Shanahan

13 Jun 13 Jun

15:33

* Sedat Dilek [06-13-18 11:28]:

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Hi,

after I tried KDE/Plasma/Wayland on Debian/testing AMD64 I inspired my colleague Joop Boonen to test it on OpenSuse/tumbleweed.

Everything was fine besides Primary Selection (middle-mouse to paste), so I stopped using Plasma/Wayland.

Joop is able to use primary selection in every application (KDE or GTK). So, I was surprised. Here on KDE/Plasma 5.12.5 I cannot do that (for example cut-n-paste in konsole via middle-mouse paste into firefox).

I asked on the wayland-devel ML [1] with no answer. The retired KWin maintainer wanted to have this feature in wayland-protocols before implementing it in KWin/Plasma/Wayland.

So, what magic did you do in OpenSuse? The Gnome-way? [1] has references on how Gnome did it in mutter. Or can you point me to the relevant packages with name (sources and patches)?

I right click and hold and drag to select and middle mouse button to paste or <ctrl><v> openSUSE Tumbleweed, up-to-date now -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

Knurpht ＠ openSUSE

15:39

Op woensdag 13 juni 2018 17:26:15 CEST schreef Sedat Dilek:

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Hi,

after I tried KDE/Plasma/Wayland on Debian/testing AMD64 I inspired my colleague Joop Boonen to test it on OpenSuse/tumbleweed.

Everything was fine besides Primary Selection (middle-mouse to paste), so I stopped using Plasma/Wayland.

Joop is able to use primary selection in every application (KDE or GTK). So, I was surprised. Here on KDE/Plasma 5.12.5 I cannot do that (for example cut-n-paste in konsole via middle-mouse paste into firefox).

I asked on the wayland-devel ML [1] with no answer. The retired KWin maintainer wanted to have this feature in wayland-protocols before implementing it in KWin/Plasma/Wayland.

So, what magic did you do in OpenSuse? The Gnome-way? [1] has references on how Gnome did it in mutter. Or can you point me to the relevant packages with name (sources and patches)?

Thanks in advance.

Regards, - Sedat -

[1] https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2018-April/037748.html Isn't that just some setting in Systemsettings / Input devices? Compare with Joop's settings ( and send my regards )

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Fabian Vogt

15:40

Hi, (sorry, the previous mail got sent because the newline and send keys are too similiar...) Am Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2018, 17:26:15 CEST schrieb Sedat Dilek:

...

Hi,

after I tried KDE/Plasma/Wayland on Debian/testing AMD64 I inspired my colleague Joop Boonen to test it on OpenSuse/tumbleweed.

Everything was fine besides Primary Selection (middle-mouse to paste), so I stopped using Plasma/Wayland.

That's easy to explain: There is no offical protocol for the primary selection yet. GNOME uses some internal one meanwhile.

...

Joop is able to use primary selection in every application (KDE or GTK). So, I was surprised. Here on KDE/Plasma 5.12.5 I cannot do that (for example cut-n-paste in konsole via middle-mouse paste into firefox).

Plasma 5.13 introduced a change in the way environment variables are set. QT_QPA_PLATFORM is not forced to "wayland" anymore, but it's up to the application to decide whether to use "xcb" or "wayland". Before Qt 5.11 the default was "xcb", now it's autodetected. We have backports of those changes in Plasma 5.12 (specifically for Leap 15) and I also added "GDK_BACKEND=x11" in the startup file so that both GTK and Qt applications behave similiar (also required to get drag-and-drop working reasonably). Before Qt 5.11 (so TW until last week and Leap 15), Qt applications use the XCB platform there and go through Xwayland. So they use the X primary selection. In TW we're at Qt 5.11 now, which means applications autodetect the wayland platform now and as a result the primary selection is actually broken again... You can workaround that by passing "-platform xcb" to applications you want to use the primary selection in, like "konsole -platform xcb". GDK_BACKEND=x11 is still active as GTK3 has a broken implementation of the window decoration handling and is practically unusuable. I'm thinking about making a proposal to flip the default in Qt again for now, to restore the pre 5.11 behaviour. There aren't really any downsides there, except that the "wayland" Qt backend gets less testing. Cheers, Fabian

...

I asked on the wayland-devel ML [1] with no answer. The retired KWin maintainer wanted to have this feature in wayland-protocols before implementing it in KWin/Plasma/Wayland.

So, what magic did you do in OpenSuse? The Gnome-way? [1] has references on how Gnome did it in mutter. Or can you point me to the relevant packages with name (sources and patches)?

Thanks in advance.

Regards, - Sedat -

[1] https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2018-April/037748.html

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Sedat Dilek

15:57

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Fabian Vogt wrote:

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Hi,

(sorry, the previous mail got sent because the newline and send keys are too similiar...)

Am Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2018, 17:26:15 CEST schrieb Sedat Dilek:

...
Hi,

after I tried KDE/Plasma/Wayland on Debian/testing AMD64 I inspired my colleague Joop Boonen to test it on OpenSuse/tumbleweed.

Everything was fine besides Primary Selection (middle-mouse to paste), so I stopped using Plasma/Wayland.

That's easy to explain: There is no offical protocol for the primary selection yet. GNOME uses some internal one meanwhile.

...
Joop is able to use primary selection in every application (KDE or GTK). So, I was surprised. Here on KDE/Plasma 5.12.5 I cannot do that (for example cut-n-paste in konsole via middle-mouse paste into firefox).

Plasma 5.13 introduced a change in the way environment variables are set. QT_QPA_PLATFORM is not forced to "wayland" anymore, but it's up to the application to decide whether to use "xcb" or "wayland". Before Qt 5.11 the default was "xcb", now it's autodetected.

We have backports of those changes in Plasma 5.12 (specifically for Leap 15) and I also added "GDK_BACKEND=x11" in the startup file so that both GTK and Qt applications behave similiar (also required to get drag-and-drop working reasonably).

Before Qt 5.11 (so TW until last week and Leap 15), Qt applications use the XCB platform there and go through Xwayland. So they use the X primary selection.

In TW we're at Qt 5.11 now, which means applications autodetect the wayland platform now and as a result the primary selection is actually broken again...

You can workaround that by passing "-platform xcb" to applications you want to use the primary selection in, like "konsole -platform xcb". GDK_BACKEND=x11 is still active as GTK3 has a broken implementation of the window decoration handling and is practically unusuable.

I'm thinking about making a proposal to flip the default in Qt again for now, to restore the pre 5.11 behaviour. There aren't really any downsides there, except that the "wayland" Qt backend gets less testing.

Hi Fabian, you say Joop and $world is open... I tried... 'konsole -platform xcb' ...that works with middle-mouse paste. Debian/testing ships QT 5.10.1. The 2nd no-no-no was VirtualBox-Qt-Gui not working under Plasma/Wayland. I tried the suggestion of [1]... QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb virtualbox ...that worked here. Checking my exports... declare -x QT_QPA_PLATFORM="wayland" Hmm, not sure if I can change this behaviour session-wide (SDDM & KDE/Plasma), not per-application. Hmm, a konsole wrapper-script OMG. The most funniest within GTK applications I can do middle-mouse paste within a running KDE/Plasma session. Anyway, thanks for the informations. Regards, - sed@ - [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/5wbshp/plasma_wayland_session_virtulab...

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I asked on the wayland-devel ML [1] with no answer. The retired KWin maintainer wanted to have this feature in wayland-protocols before implementing it in KWin/Plasma/Wayland.

So, what magic did you do in OpenSuse? The Gnome-way? [1] has references on how Gnome did it in mutter. Or can you point me to the relevant packages with name (sources and patches)?

Thanks in advance.

Regards, - Sedat -

[1] https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2018-April/037748.html

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Sedat Dilek

21 Jun 21 Jun

13:59

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 5:40 PM Fabian Vogt wrote:

...

Hi,

(sorry, the previous mail got sent because the newline and send keys are too similiar...)

Am Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2018, 17:26:15 CEST schrieb Sedat Dilek:

...
Hi,

after I tried KDE/Plasma/Wayland on Debian/testing AMD64 I inspired my colleague Joop Boonen to test it on OpenSuse/tumbleweed.

Everything was fine besides Primary Selection (middle-mouse to paste), so I stopped using Plasma/Wayland.

That's easy to explain: There is no offical protocol for the primary selection yet. GNOME uses some internal one meanwhile.

...
Joop is able to use primary selection in every application (KDE or GTK). So, I was surprised. Here on KDE/Plasma 5.12.5 I cannot do that (for example cut-n-paste in konsole via middle-mouse paste into firefox).

Plasma 5.13 introduced a change in the way environment variables are set. QT_QPA_PLATFORM is not forced to "wayland" anymore, but it's up to the application to decide whether to use "xcb" or "wayland". Before Qt 5.11 the default was "xcb", now it's autodetected.

We have backports of those changes in Plasma 5.12 (specifically for Leap 15) and I also added "GDK_BACKEND=x11" in the startup file so that both GTK and Qt applications behave similiar (also required to get drag-and-drop working reasonably).

Before Qt 5.11 (so TW until last week and Leap 15), Qt applications use the XCB platform there and go through Xwayland. So they use the X primary selection.

In TW we're at Qt 5.11 now, which means applications autodetect the wayland platform now and as a result the primary selection is actually broken again...

You can workaround that by passing "-platform xcb" to applications you want to use the primary selection in, like "konsole -platform xcb". GDK_BACKEND=x11 is still active as GTK3 has a broken implementation of the window decoration handling and is practically unusuable.

I'm thinking about making a proposal to flip the default in Qt again for now, to restore the pre 5.11 behaviour. There aren't really any downsides there, except that the "wayland" Qt backend gets less testing.

Hi Fabian, I just wanted to let you know, there was some progress on this: In upstream qtwayland.git#dev (see [1] and [2]): "Client: Implement primary-selection-unstable-v1 " And wayland-prtocols v1.17 includes (see [3] and [4]): "unstable: add primary-selection protocol" Joop just showed me "middle-mouse-paste" works on his latest kde/plasma/wayland environment in GTK- and KDE/QT-based apps. How did you realize this? Do you have the above qtwayland patch(es)? Thanks. Regards, - Sedat - [1] https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-66008 [2] https://github.com/qt/qtwayland/commit/5ec182df699041699f514d164a161c299fde5... [3] https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2018-November/039662.ht... [4] https://github.com/wayland-project/wayland-protocols/commit/2c3b11d76fd498fc...

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Cheers, Fabian

...
I asked on the wayland-devel ML [1] with no answer. The retired KWin maintainer wanted to have this feature in wayland-protocols before implementing it in KWin/Plasma/Wayland.

So, what magic did you do in OpenSuse? The Gnome-way? [1] has references on how Gnome did it in mutter. Or can you point me to the relevant packages with name (sources and patches)?

Thanks in advance.

Regards, - Sedat -

[1] https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2018-April/037748.html

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Fabian Vogt

17:11

Hi, Am Freitag, 21. Juni 2019, 15:59:40 CEST schrieb Sedat Dilek:

...

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 5:40 PM Fabian Vogt wrote:

...
Hi,

(sorry, the previous mail got sent because the newline and send keys are too similiar...)

Am Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2018, 17:26:15 CEST schrieb Sedat Dilek:

...
Hi,

after I tried KDE/Plasma/Wayland on Debian/testing AMD64 I inspired my colleague Joop Boonen to test it on OpenSuse/tumbleweed.

Everything was fine besides Primary Selection (middle-mouse to paste), so I stopped using Plasma/Wayland.

That's easy to explain: There is no offical protocol for the primary selection yet. GNOME uses some internal one meanwhile.

...
Joop is able to use primary selection in every application (KDE or GTK). So, I was surprised. Here on KDE/Plasma 5.12.5 I cannot do that (for example cut-n-paste in konsole via middle-mouse paste into firefox).

Plasma 5.13 introduced a change in the way environment variables are set. QT_QPA_PLATFORM is not forced to "wayland" anymore, but it's up to the application to decide whether to use "xcb" or "wayland". Before Qt 5.11 the default was "xcb", now it's autodetected.

We have backports of those changes in Plasma 5.12 (specifically for Leap 15) and I also added "GDK_BACKEND=x11" in the startup file so that both GTK and Qt applications behave similiar (also required to get drag-and-drop working reasonably).

Before Qt 5.11 (so TW until last week and Leap 15), Qt applications use the XCB platform there and go through Xwayland. So they use the X primary selection.

In TW we're at Qt 5.11 now, which means applications autodetect the wayland platform now and as a result the primary selection is actually broken again...

You can workaround that by passing "-platform xcb" to applications you want to use the primary selection in, like "konsole -platform xcb". GDK_BACKEND=x11 is still active as GTK3 has a broken implementation of the window decoration handling and is practically unusuable.

I'm thinking about making a proposal to flip the default in Qt again for now, to restore the pre 5.11 behaviour. There aren't really any downsides there, except that the "wayland" Qt backend gets less testing.

Hi Fabian,

I just wanted to let you know, there was some progress on this:

In upstream qtwayland.git#dev (see [1] and [2]): "Client: Implement primary-selection-unstable-v1 "

And wayland-prtocols v1.17 includes (see [3] and [4]): "unstable: add primary-selection protocol"

Joop just showed me "middle-mouse-paste" works on his latest kde/plasma/wayland environment in GTK- and KDE/QT-based apps.

How did you realize this? Do you have the above qtwayland patch(es)?

No, not much changed since last time. Even in a Plasma Wayland session, Qt and GTK still default to X11. Client-side support for the protocol will be in Qt 5.14, but the compositor part in KWin/KWayland is still missing. So currently it's not really useful. Once the missing parts are in place, we can try to backport them, of course. Cheers, Fabian

...

Thanks.

Regards, - Sedat -

[1] https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-66008 [2] https://github.com/qt/qtwayland/commit/5ec182df699041699f514d164a161c299fde5... [3] https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2018-November/039662.ht... [4] https://github.com/wayland-project/wayland-protocols/commit/2c3b11d76fd498fc...

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Cheers, Fabian

...
I asked on the wayland-devel ML [1] with no answer. The retired KWin maintainer wanted to have this feature in wayland-protocols before implementing it in KWin/Plasma/Wayland.

So, what magic did you do in OpenSuse? The Gnome-way? [1] has references on how Gnome did it in mutter. Or can you point me to the relevant packages with name (sources and patches)?

Thanks in advance.

Regards, - Sedat -

[1] https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2018-April/037748.html

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Sedat Dilek

23 Dec 23 Dec

18:41

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 5:40 PM Fabian Vogt wrote:

...

Hi,

(sorry, the previous mail got sent because the newline and send keys are too similiar...)

Am Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2018, 17:26:15 CEST schrieb Sedat Dilek:

...
Hi,

after I tried KDE/Plasma/Wayland on Debian/testing AMD64 I inspired my colleague Joop Boonen to test it on OpenSuse/tumbleweed.

Everything was fine besides Primary Selection (middle-mouse to paste), so I stopped using Plasma/Wayland.

That's easy to explain: There is no offical protocol for the primary selection yet. GNOME uses some internal one meanwhile.

...
Joop is able to use primary selection in every application (KDE or GTK). So, I was surprised. Here on KDE/Plasma 5.12.5 I cannot do that (for example cut-n-paste in konsole via middle-mouse paste into firefox).

Plasma 5.13 introduced a change in the way environment variables are set. QT_QPA_PLATFORM is not forced to "wayland" anymore, but it's up to the application to decide whether to use "xcb" or "wayland". Before Qt 5.11 the default was "xcb", now it's autodetected.

We have backports of those changes in Plasma 5.12 (specifically for Leap 15) and I also added "GDK_BACKEND=x11" in the startup file so that both GTK and Qt applications behave similiar (also required to get drag-and-drop working reasonably).

Before Qt 5.11 (so TW until last week and Leap 15), Qt applications use the XCB platform there and go through Xwayland. So they use the X primary selection.

In TW we're at Qt 5.11 now, which means applications autodetect the wayland platform now and as a result the primary selection is actually broken again...

You can workaround that by passing "-platform xcb" to applications you want to use the primary selection in, like "konsole -platform xcb". GDK_BACKEND=x11 is still active as GTK3 has a broken implementation of the window decoration handling and is practically unusuable.

I'm thinking about making a proposal to flip the default in Qt again for now, to restore the pre 5.11 behaviour. There aren't really any downsides there, except that the "wayland" Qt backend gets less testing.

Cheers, Fabian

...
I asked on the wayland-devel ML [1] with no answer. The retired KWin maintainer wanted to have this feature in wayland-protocols before implementing it in KWin/Plasma/Wayland.

So, what magic did you do in OpenSuse? The Gnome-way? [1] has references on how Gnome did it in mutter. Or can you point me to the relevant packages with name (sources and patches)?

Thanks in advance.

Regards, - Sedat -

[1] https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2018-April/037748.html

Hi Fabian, is there an elegant way to "force" an KDE application to use the xcb platform in Plasma/Wayland? Alternatives via terminal: terminal$ konsole -platform xcb terminal$ QT_QPA_PLATFORM="xcb;wayland" konsole When I start konsole with wayland platform - I cannot cut-n-paste into e.g. firefox. Thanks. Regards, - Sedat - [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2020/12/msg00056.html [2] https://www.heise.de/forum/heise-online/Kommentare/KDE-Plasma-5-20-Neue-Vers...

Fabian Vogt

19:59

Moin, Am Mittwoch, 23. Dezember 2020, 19:41:51 CET schrieb Sedat Dilek:

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Hi Fabian,

is there an elegant way to "force" an KDE application to use the xcb platform in Plasma/Wayland?

Alternatives via terminal:

terminal$ konsole -platform xcb

terminal$ QT_QPA_PLATFORM="xcb;wayland" konsole

You could copy the .desktop file into ~/.local/share/applications/ and edit Exec= to pass -platform xcb.

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When I start konsole with wayland platform - I cannot cut-n-paste into e.g. firefox.

Clipboard or primary selection? Is Firefox using Wayland or X11? Leap (version?) or TW? Cheers, Fabian

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Thanks.

Regards, - Sedat -

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2020/12/msg00056.html [2] https://www.heise.de/forum/heise-online/Kommentare/KDE-Plasma-5-20-Neue-Vers...

Sedat Dilek

24 Dec 24 Dec

05:37

On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 8:59 PM Fabian Vogt wrote:

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Moin,

Moin moin (double "moin" means "Quatschkopf" I heard on TV :-))?

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Am Mittwoch, 23. Dezember 2020, 19:41:51 CET schrieb Sedat Dilek:

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Hi Fabian,

is there an elegant way to "force" an KDE application to use the xcb platform in Plasma/Wayland?

Alternatives via terminal:

terminal$ konsole -platform xcb

terminal$ QT_QPA_PLATFORM="xcb;wayland" konsole

You could copy the .desktop file into ~/.local/share/applications/ and edit Exec= to pass -platform xcb.

OK, I was on a good track with the *.desktop file.

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When I start konsole with wayland platform - I cannot cut-n-paste into e.g. firefox.

Clipboard or primary selection? Is Firefox using Wayland or X11? Leap (version?) or TW?

To be honest: What is the difference between clipboard and primary selection? OK, I can check the content of the clipboard but primary selection? [ SDDM ] I am starting a Plasma/Wayland session via SDDM. Checking the XDG_SESSION_XXX env variables: $ declare -x | grep XDG_SESSION declare -x XDG_SESSION_CLASS="user" declare -x XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP="KDE" declare -x XDG_SESSION_ID="26" declare -x XDG_SESSION_PATH="/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Session9" declare -x XDG_SESSION_TYPE="wayland" Checking ~/.local/share/sddm/wayland-session.log [3]: Failed to create wl_display (No such file or directory) qt.qpa.plugin: Could not load the Qt platform plugin "wayland" in "" even though it was found. This application failed to start because no Qt platform plugin could be initialized. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem. Available platform plugins are: wayland-org.kde.kwin.qpa, eglfs, linuxfb, minimal, minimalegl, offscreen, vnc, wayland-egl, wayland, wayland-xcomposite-egl, wayland-xcomposite-glx, xcb. [ KWin/Wayland backend ? ] How can I check which kwin backend is activated and used - here I installed the following backends drm | wayland | x11 [2]. [ Wolf in sheep's clothing ] To be very honest: This is on Debian/testing AMD64 and I wanted to understand the working-together in general. If you have some cool docs or links on the topic Plasma/Wayland like [1], please let me know. Thanks. Happy Xmas (if you celebrate it or not), - Sedat - [1] https://community.kde.org/KWin/Wayland [2] https://community.kde.org/KWin/Wayland#Starting_a_nested_KWin [3] https://community.kde.org/KWin/Wayland#Reading_wayland_session_logs

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Cheers, Fabian

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Thanks.

Regards, - Sedat -

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2020/12/msg00056.html [2] https://www.heise.de/forum/heise-online/Kommentare/KDE-Plasma-5-20-Neue-Vers...

Wilhelm Boltz

14 Jan 14 Jan

10:15

Dag, Am Donnerstag, 24. Dezember 2020, 06:37:11 CET schrieb Sedat Dilek:

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On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 8:59 PM Fabian Vogt wrote: [...]

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Moin, [...] Moin moin (double "moin" means "Quatschkopf" I heard on TV :-))?

because of "Moi'n dag" ¹

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[...]

Regards Wilhelm ¹ https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moin -- 5.10.5-1-default x86_64 GNU/Linux openSUSE Tumbleweed 20210110

Sedat Dilek

24 Dec 24 Dec

10:02

On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 8:59 PM Fabian Vogt wrote:

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Moin,

Am Mittwoch, 23. Dezember 2020, 19:41:51 CET schrieb Sedat Dilek:

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Hi Fabian,

is there an elegant way to "force" an KDE application to use the xcb platform in Plasma/Wayland?

Alternatives via terminal:

terminal$ konsole -platform xcb

terminal$ QT_QPA_PLATFORM="xcb;wayland" konsole

You could copy the .desktop file into ~/.local/share/applications/ and edit Exec= to pass -platform xcb.

That worked: user$ cp -v /usr/share/applications/org.kde.konsole.desktop ~/.local/share/applications/ $ diff -u /usr/share/applications/org.kde.konsole.desktop ~/.local/share/applications/ --- /usr/share/applications/org.kde.konsole.desktop 2020-12-02 23:00:50.000000000 +0100 +++ /home/dileks/.local/share/applications/org.kde.konsole.desktop 2020-12-24 10:54:58.370168082 +0100 @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ [Desktop Entry] Type=Application TryExec=konsole -Exec=konsole +Exec=konsole -platform xcb Icon=utilities-terminal Terminal=false Categories=Qt;KDE;System;TerminalEmulator; - Sedat -

Sedat Dilek

27 Sep 27 Sep

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New subject: [tumbleweed] kde/plasma/wayland: Primary Selection Protocol (middle-mouse to paste)

Hi, with switching to KDE/Plasma v5.32 beta aka v5.22.90 packages from Norbert's APT repository middle-mouse-paste now works in KDE/Plasma/Wayland on my Debian/unstable AMD64 system. Before I had this workaround under Wayland: $ git diff /usr/share/applications/org.kde.konsole.desktop /home/dileks/.local/share/applications/org.kde.konsole.desktop.dileks diff --git a/usr/share/applications/org.kde.konsole.desktop b/home/dileks/.local/share/applications/org.kde.konsole.desktop.dileks index 3ba1e99e65a5..5bd96d79eb65 100644 --- a/usr/share/applications/org.kde.konsole.desktop +++ b/home/dileks/.local/share/applications/org.kde.konsole.desktop.dileks @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ [Desktop Entry] Type=Application TryExec=konsole -Exec=konsole +Exec=konsole -platform xcb Icon=utilities-terminal Terminal=false Categories=Qt;KDE;System;TerminalEmulator; I tested cut-n-paste with konsole and kate by copying a URL into Firefox and vice-versa. Just wanted to let you know. Regards, - Sedat - [1] https://www.preining.info/blog/2021/09/plasma-5-23-anniversary-edition-beta/ On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 5:26 PM Sedat Dilek wrote:

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Hi,

after I tried KDE/Plasma/Wayland on Debian/testing AMD64 I inspired my colleague Joop Boonen to test it on OpenSuse/tumbleweed.

Everything was fine besides Primary Selection (middle-mouse to paste), so I stopped using Plasma/Wayland.

Joop is able to use primary selection in every application (KDE or GTK). So, I was surprised. Here on KDE/Plasma 5.12.5 I cannot do that (for example cut-n-paste in konsole via middle-mouse paste into firefox).

I asked on the wayland-devel ML [1] with no answer. The retired KWin maintainer wanted to have this feature in wayland-protocols before implementing it in KWin/Plasma/Wayland.

So, what magic did you do in OpenSuse? The Gnome-way? [1] has references on how Gnome did it in mutter. Or can you point me to the relevant packages with name (sources and patches)?

Thanks in advance.

Regards, - Sedat -

[1] https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2018-April/037748.html

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[opensuse-kde] [tumbleweed] kde/plasma/wayland: Primary Selection Protocol (middle-mouse to paste)

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