Re: [suse-kde] KOffice-1.2.1
OK guys, this is where my learning curve goes vertical !! Did rpm..--test on KOffice and it said nothing about KDE3.1 - besides Office is dated Dec02 and I thought 3.1 didnt come out till Jan03 so confusion reins. However I've been downloading (via win98, but that's another story) 3.1.1 so I rpm --test'ed QT3.1 and kdelibs3.1 which each depended on the other so I presumed (fatal) that I had to force libs3 upgrade and then add base3, qt3 etc which I did as root in failsafe - result - crashed completely after libs3.1 ie I'm back to 98 to write this. Rant - while not entirely KDE specific - I used SuSE because I thought it would be safe for a newbie!!. Kspread, crashes on cell formatting (but I've found work-arounds). Koncd - SIG11's on every option except setup (do SuSE actually check prgs run before they issue cds)? - back-ups have been done to floppies!!! KOffice - as above - do a SuSE upgrade and lost all my bank data in Kspread - until recently I duplicated everything in 98, foolishly I had stopped. Konqueror - never got acceptable download speeds - using win98 I downloaded KOffice 10.5Mb in about 1hr, lucky to get 300b/sec from Konq because of the amount of stalled time, eg receive 1500bytes, stall for 5secs, receive 500, stall again etc. I dont like 98, even less XP (not that I've used it yet) it's big bloated and full of stuff I'm not interested in but I have to admit at least it works - and I'm the wrong side of 50 so time is not unlimited. I want to use/understand the basics of Linux because I like the idea of having some control over the system, not being told what I need, but at this moment there's an awful temptation to throw in the towel. So. it's back to PQmagic, wipe the partitions clean and start over - or maybe wait till SuSE 8.2 is out later this month. Apologies to each and all for my moans Jim
Hi Jim, I see a problem in your installation description: you seem to have installed qt after kde. This is the wrong order. qt does NOT need kde, but kde uses (and therefore needs) qt. You ALWAYS should install first Arts*.rpm, then qt*.rpm, and then kde, where you should start with libs and (then) base, and then the rest, or all together at the same time. It should even be no problem to do a reboot between qt and kde installation, just to make sure only the new qt is in memory. There are many posts here discussing this, you should easily find more details, if needed. I'm running koffice-1.2.1 on kde 3.1.1, and now all is running fine (without testing to the limits though, just my basic stuff). HTH, Matt T. BTW. I just watch my nephew playing on a windows box - I never saw so many crashes, even the screen needed to get readjusted, it suddenly moved 5 cm to the right (not the monitor, just the displayed screen...) from time to time his mouse is gone, and the reboot button needs some oil soon... On Tuesday 08 April 2003 18:24, Jim MacLeod wrote:
OK guys, this is where my learning curve goes vertical !! Did rpm..--test on KOffice and it said nothing about KDE3.1 - besides Office is dated Dec02 and I thought 3.1 didnt come out till Jan03 so confusion reins. However I've been downloading (via win98, but that's another story) 3.1.1 so I rpm --test'ed QT3.1 and kdelibs3.1 which each depended on the other so I presumed (fatal) that I had to force libs3 upgrade and then add base3, qt3 etc which I did as root in failsafe - result - crashed completely after libs3.1 ie I'm back to 98 to write this.
Rant - while not entirely KDE specific - I used SuSE because I thought it would be safe for a newbie!!. Kspread, crashes on cell formatting (but I've found work-arounds). Koncd - SIG11's on every option except setup (do SuSE actually check prgs run before they issue cds)? - back-ups have been done to floppies!!! KOffice - as above - do a SuSE upgrade and lost all my bank data in Kspread - until recently I duplicated everything in 98, foolishly I had stopped. Konqueror - never got acceptable download speeds - using win98 I downloaded KOffice 10.5Mb in about 1hr, lucky to get 300b/sec from Konq because of the amount of stalled time, eg receive 1500bytes, stall for 5secs, receive 500, stall again etc.
I dont like 98, even less XP (not that I've used it yet) it's big bloated and full of stuff I'm not interested in but I have to admit at least it works - and I'm the wrong side of 50 so time is not unlimited. I want to use/understand the basics of Linux because I like the idea of having some control over the system, not being told what I need, but at this moment there's an awful temptation to throw in the towel.
So. it's back to PQmagic, wipe the partitions clean and start over - or maybe wait till SuSE 8.2 is out later this month. Apologies to each and all for my moans Jim
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 08 April 2003 13:24, Jim MacLeod wrote:
OK guys, this is where my learning curve goes vertical !! <snip> So. it's back to PQmagic, wipe the partitions clean and start over - or maybe wait till SuSE 8.2 is out later this month. Apologies to each and all for my moans Jim Hi Jim With Linux your curve can never get vertical every step is a learning curve wether you have use Linux for 1 month or all your life there is always something new to learn.
M$ is a clicky bunte thing there is no real learning going on. For every change in the system you need to reboot and then it does not always work. If you have problem with the hardware there is no configuration file that you can tweak. Through mistakes you learn the next time you will know better. When I start Linux after M$ I wonder what the hell was all this make install clean what a load of rubbish but after time you will appreciate it. Be patient you are never to old to learn. If you have problems with Koffice you do not have to stay with it there are other office programs it is your choice. :-) Keep smiling :-] enjoy ;-) and learn if it gets to much at one point you just have stop take a sip of beer and rethink. Ian - -- A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five. Groucho Marx - ---------------------------------------------------- This mail has been scanned for virus by AntiVir for UNIX Copyright (C) 1994-2003 by H+BEDV Datentechnik GmbH. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+kyNaKiWi8VifhEkRAhz1AKCPzbyKWxu91JDeaMNVn7r/PlXQbwCgkyLl /W8yA3ZGnSymfCA86JzA2cg= =v1q3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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Ian David Laws
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Jim MacLeod
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Matt T.